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So why did Putin order Trump to start a trade war? (Original Post) Eliot Rosewater Mar 2018 OP
Chaos TEB Mar 2018 #1
It can't be coincidental that Oleg Deripaska is the aluminum oligarch. meadowlander Mar 2018 #2
Nope, cant be at all. Eliot Rosewater Mar 2018 #3
Have you seen that Deripaska is stepping down as the head of Russia's Rusal aluminum empire ? OnDoutside Mar 2018 #23
It's all part of Putin's master plan to weaken the United States. n/t fleur-de-lisa Mar 2018 #4
Without the assistance of sixty million OR MORE American citizens, he couldnt do Eliot Rosewater Mar 2018 #6
Yup workinclasszero Mar 2018 #16
Because he could. lpbk2713 Mar 2018 #5
To create more chaos and division internationally now. duforsure Mar 2018 #7
War fare by other means Yavin4 Mar 2018 #8
To destroy the cohesiveness of the rest of the world. TexasProgresive Mar 2018 #9
That is the big picture, and in the smaller one there is money to be made. Eliot Rosewater Mar 2018 #11
For example, Putin's plan to destroy the European Union LastLiberal in PalmSprings Mar 2018 #15
Putin is probably not ordering it. HopeAgain Mar 2018 #10
I thought of that before I posted, but all of the best people have told dumbshit that if he does Eliot Rosewater Mar 2018 #12
I truly believe that Trump wants to prove HopeAgain Mar 2018 #13
I don't think Putin ordered it either padah513 Mar 2018 #14
I agree loyalsister Mar 2018 #24
Ruin American economy, that's what the Russian's talked about on a Russian political show uponit7771 Mar 2018 #17
boedom? niyad Mar 2018 #18
to isolate US from its traditional allies librechik Mar 2018 #19
You think he can't come up with stupid ideas all on his own? nt B2G Mar 2018 #20
I think he takes his marching orders from Russian...Russian picked the secretary of state. Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #22
To drive a wedge between allies Thrill Mar 2018 #21

Eliot Rosewater

(31,109 posts)
3. Nope, cant be at all.
Tue Mar 6, 2018, 01:55 PM
Mar 2018

What we can count on though is the SIXTY MILLION Americans who wont care if the trade war causes all kinds of problems for them even, as long as they know trump hates Mexicans and blacks, they are good to go. Oh, and dem gay phokes too.

OnDoutside

(19,956 posts)
23. Have you seen that Deripaska is stepping down as the head of Russia's Rusal aluminum empire ?
Tue Mar 6, 2018, 03:05 PM
Mar 2018
Russian Tycoon Deripaska Quits As Head Of Aluminum Empire

Russian tycoon Oleg Deripaska is stepping down as the head of Russia's Rusal aluminum empire, weeks after he appeared on a U.S. list of tycoons said to benefit from their ties with the Kremlin.

Rusal and its parent company EN+ Group announced Deripaska's departure and other management changes early on February 23, saying they "would ensure additional synergy of the metallurgic and energy segments" of the company's business.

The company did not mention an investigative report recently published by Russian opposition leader and anticorruption crusader Aleksei Navalny that said that Deripaska hosted Russian Deputy Prime Minister Sergei Prikhodko for a lavish stay on his yacht.

The Navalny report on February 8, which was based on social media posts and photos provided by a woman who claimed to have had an affair with Deripaska, said the meeting was part of a growing body of evidence of corruption in Kremlin circles.



https://www.rferl.org/a/russian-oligarch-deripaska-steps-down-head-rusal-aluminum-empires-after-navalny-corruption-report-treasury-kremlin-list-/29058050.html

Eliot Rosewater

(31,109 posts)
6. Without the assistance of sixty million OR MORE American citizens, he couldnt do
Tue Mar 6, 2018, 01:59 PM
Mar 2018

jack shit.

But he is smart, putin, he knows which buttons to push.

RACE

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
7. To create more chaos and division internationally now.
Tue Mar 6, 2018, 02:00 PM
Mar 2018

Just like he's sending missile components and materials to NK ignoring the sanctions so it can create more division and a war for profits for him and others with. Trump and Ryan and McConnell know too, and are involved. Intel briefing have told them.

Yavin4

(35,438 posts)
8. War fare by other means
Tue Mar 6, 2018, 02:00 PM
Mar 2018

It's far less expensive to get your enemies to fight each other than to fight him. Think about it. If Hitler just appealed to our racists here, he would've won WWII.

15. For example, Putin's plan to destroy the European Union
Tue Mar 6, 2018, 02:18 PM
Mar 2018

According to an article in InFacts:

The latest evidence of Russian meddling in the [Brexit] referendum . . . is damning.

First, over 150,000 Russia-based Twitter accounts switched their attention to Brexit in the final days of the referendum, according to an upcoming paper by Swansea University and the University of California, Berkeley. They posted more than 45,000 messages about Brexit in 48 hours as the campaign reached its peak, compared to fewer than 1,000 per day before June 13. The tweets were viewed hundreds of millions of times, The Times says.

Second, City University researchers have uncovered a coordinated network of Twitter “bots” comprising over 13,000 accounts, which came out of nowhere to post 65,000 tweets about the referendum. One of the influential accounts that these automated bots retweeted was probably a Russian propaganda account, according to The Times.

Third, over 400 fake Twitter accounts believed to be run from a St Petersburg based “troll farm” published posts about Brexit, according to Edinburgh University researchers. The Internet Research Agency (IRA) employs hundreds of bloggers round the clock to flood Russian internet forums, social networks and the comments’ sections of western publications. It has been linked to a businessman who was once Vladimir Putin’s favourite chef, according to the Guardian.

The Russian president told Bloomberg in September 2016 that Brexit would lead to a smaller EU. Putin has always resented having to deal with the EU and insisted that only bilateral relations mattered for Russia. A former US ambassador to Russia, Michael McFaul, said the Brexit vote was “a giant victory for Putin’s foreign policy objectives.”

article

Putin's playing a global game of "Last Man Standing," and he's winning.

HopeAgain

(4,407 posts)
10. Putin is probably not ordering it.
Tue Mar 6, 2018, 02:03 PM
Mar 2018

This is a thing that Trump has been harping on for a long time. It's like the silly wall...Trump does want to be able to say he achieved some of the things he promised during the campaign, no matter how stupid they are. Putin is fine with anything that will cause chaos for the west, so he is probably okay with it.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,109 posts)
12. I thought of that before I posted, but all of the best people have told dumbshit that if he does
Tue Mar 6, 2018, 02:04 PM
Mar 2018

this it will be catastrophic, so I have to believe putin is involved.

HopeAgain

(4,407 posts)
13. I truly believe that Trump wants to prove
Tue Mar 6, 2018, 02:11 PM
Mar 2018

he can do the things he said he would do. He is imagining the rally full of blue collar people cheering wildly because he saved american steel and aluminum. He probably thinks the advice of Stephen Miller is on par with Gary Cohn because he doesn't believe in expertise.

I also think this is an indicator that Hillary Clinton is in danger of a false prosecution if Trump can get rid of Sessions, Rosenstein and sessions. Reality doesn't matter, only the adoration of the MAGAts

padah513

(2,502 posts)
14. I don't think Putin ordered it either
Tue Mar 6, 2018, 02:18 PM
Mar 2018

I think Trump used this trade issue to "change the subject" again. He knocked the students and guns issue right off the front pages, and in the end I don't think he's going to do anything about trade other than alienate our allies even further. That said, I agree with you that Putin is fine with it. The more chaos his lackey creates in the U.S., the better as far as he's concerned.

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
24. I agree
Tue Mar 6, 2018, 03:20 PM
Mar 2018

There was speculation that he would start a trade war during the campaign. This is another example of his belief that his thoughts are fact regardless of evidence. It's also what happens when someone tries to translate corporate bullying practices to governing and foreign policy. And... more evidence that he's in way over his head.

From March 2016:

Trade has been one of Donald Trump's great selling points on the campaign trail. China and Mexico are killing us, he has told crowds on his way to the lead position for the Republican presidential nomination, and if Trump wins the White House, he will fight back. The implication is that getting tough with our trading partners -- by taxing their exports as they cross America's borders -- will bring jobs and prosperity to the United States.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/03/25/donald-trumps-trade-war-could-kill-millions-of-u-s-jobs/?utm_term=.384365c14959
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