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Soph0571

(9,685 posts)
Thu Mar 8, 2018, 07:09 PM Mar 2018

The far right hates vaginas. Why doesnt this anger the left more?

From Donald Trump’s “locker-room banter” about grabbing women by the pussy, to the instructions of the Philippines president to shoot female guerrilla fighters in the genitals, a clear target of contemporary fascistic and “alt-right” politics seems to be vaginas. This isn’t a case of hidden patriarchal structures supporting gender inequality. It’s explicit and unashamed references that identify women either as the enemy or the subhuman other, subordinate to the pleasure of macho men. And it’s a trend that’s spanning the globe.

In Britain, the victim of this emerging culture was the MP Jo Cox. Some will argue that Thomas Mair, her murderer, was an isolated case, a disturbed Nazi sympathiser from whom we cannot generalise. But before we dismiss his crime as a one-off we should remember that gender identity, specifically masculine identity, is at the centre of fascistic discourse. Crime – against women or ethnic minorities – is often a resource for those who feel their masculinity is threatened. It is a way to be “male” again.

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Above all, those who reject identity politics fail to recognise two important processes. First, how different demands on disadvantaged and excluded groups can come together to form a universal struggle. And second, how identity – class included – is not something fixed from birth. It is rather shaped and reshaped as we engage in common struggles. Nothing demonstrated this more clearly than the 2014 film Pride, about LGBT activists supporting the miner’s strike, contributing to the incorporation of gay rights in the Labour party programme in 1986.

For the progressive forces in society, the struggle of any marginalised people must extend beyond that group. When my vagina is the target of far-right hate, the progressive left better stand by my side.


[link:https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/mar/08/vaginas-far-right-progressives-identity-politics|

Indeed!

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The far right hates vaginas. Why doesnt this anger the left more? (Original Post) Soph0571 Mar 2018 OP
Okay, but I sure dislike the framing here. RandomAccess Mar 2018 #1
Well gee whiz. Let's start here: LGBT - Read it Donal Trump! Wwcd Mar 2018 #2
Far Right, Trump, Greed./The only time identity is considered is when it can be exploited for profit Wwcd Mar 2018 #5
As long SI bikini covers posts are deified LanternWaste Mar 2018 #3
Misogyny transcends...just about everything leftstreet Mar 2018 #4
 

RandomAccess

(5,210 posts)
1. Okay, but I sure dislike the framing here.
Thu Mar 8, 2018, 07:28 PM
Mar 2018

The right hates women --> misogyny. Reducing it to "hating vaginas" is objectifying.

Don't like to nitpick, but I think it's an important point nonetheless.

Otherwise has some excellent points.

 

Wwcd

(6,288 posts)
2. Well gee whiz. Let's start here: LGBT - Read it Donal Trump!
Thu Mar 8, 2018, 07:47 PM
Mar 2018

From the TV Series When We Rise

Snip

In When We Rise, viewers see the quilt in all its sad glory through archival footage, stretched out across the length of the National Mall. They also see the visit of Bill Clinton — and by his side, the first lady, Hillary.

2016 Election
"When Hillary Clinton comes on-screen, it’s undeniably heartbreaking, given where we stand right here at this moment," said Black, an acknowledgment of the Democratic presidential candidate's loss in the election.
Unlike Trump, Clinton campaigned with a national plan to fight HIV, which despite advancements in treatment remains a health crisis in the U.S. and abroad
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As president, Trump has yet to mention the epidemic.
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https://www.google.com/amp/www.spokesman.com/stories/1996/oct/12/clintons-gores-visit-growing-aids-quilt/%3famp-content=amp

SNIP
1993
The Quilt was honored with a nomination for the Nobel Peace Prize.

As of 1992, The AIDS Memorial Quilt included panels from every U.S. state and 28 countries. In October 1992, the entire Quilt returned to Washington, D.C., this time in the shadow of the Washington Monument. To reflect the global nature of the AIDS pandemic, this display was titled the “International Display.”

In January 1993, The NAMES Project was invited to march in President Clinton’s inaugural parade. Over 200 volunteers, including representatives of national AIDS organizations and Leanza Cornett, Miss America 1993, carried Quilt panels down Pennsylvania Avenue in the parade.


SNIP
The quilt, bearing the names of more than 70,000 people on 38,000 panels, is the centerpiece of dozens of weekend events sponsored by several groups, designed to again focus attention on the epidemic.

Hundreds of thousands of people are expected to see the quilt over the long Columbus Day weekend.

Friendly crowds greeted President Clinton and his wife Hillary Rodham Clinton when they strolled, sometimes hand in hand, through sections of the sun-dappled quilt in late afternoon.

“This means a lot to us,” someone shouted. “We love you,” cried another.

Another volunteer thanked Clinton for being the first president to visit the quilt. When it was here in 1988, President Reagan was in office; in 1992, it was President Bush.

The Clintons, both with somber expressions, stopped for a minute or more to inspect several individual quilt panels. Returning briefly to campaign mode, Clinton waved to the crowd as he walked back to his car.
GREAT READ...MORE AT LINK

OCT 11, 1996


President and Hillary Rodham Clinton viewed the AIDS quilt on the Mall in Washington, Friday, Oct. 11, 1996. The full quilt, which stretched nearly a mile from the Washington Monument to the Capitol, was on display
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And once again:

2016 Election
"When Hillary Clinton comes on-screen, it’s undeniably heartbreaking, given where we stand right here at this moment," said Black, an acknowledgment of the Democratic presidential candidate's loss in the election.
Unlike Trump, Clinton campaigned with a national plan to fight HIV, which despite advancements in treatment remains a health crisis in the U.S. and abroad
.

As president, Trump has yet to mention the epidemic.
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The United States of America is a Nation of all people, all identities.
The Democratic Party is now, has always been & will always be the Party for human rights.

I choose to start with LGBTQ & recognize when in time, our Party proved again its blessed fight for human rights .
This too was a coming together of many for one purpose, as you say in your post above.

This is where I start and others may follow with the next topic that speaks to humanity

Thank you





 

Wwcd

(6,288 posts)
5. Far Right, Trump, Greed./The only time identity is considered is when it can be exploited for profit
Thu Mar 8, 2018, 08:11 PM
Mar 2018

Women, men, family, poverty, race, & who we love are all commodities to the callous RW mobsters.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
3. As long SI bikini covers posts are deified
Thu Mar 8, 2018, 07:48 PM
Mar 2018

"the progressive left better stand by my side..."

As long SI bikini covers posts are rationalized as art, while we're presented with the absurdity that misandry is as concerning a problem as misogyny, and that child support is a sexist "scam" run on men, the progressive dudebros on the left will not stand by anyone's side other than their own. As long as someone keeps "sincerely" asking "why women and children first when the ship goes down? That's sexist!!!" or slyly argues against age of consent laws; as long as some little fella tells everyone he can't get a date because "I"m a nice guy, and that ain't what women want", and (especially) as long as these fellas pretend they're offended every time an anti-rape PSA is posted about, these guys will stay right where they are. As long as there are guys who think consent is sliding scale not dependent on alcohol or coercion, they may as well be Freepers *

I think that's why there's not as much well-deserved anger about this coming from the left... as much as I hate to say it.

(*All examples/dog-whistles come from past posts on our own progressive, liberal DU)

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