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RandySF

(58,823 posts)
Sat Mar 10, 2018, 12:04 AM Mar 2018

Three women, gunman dead after hostage standoff at veterans home in Yountville, California

After an apparent hourslong standoff between police and a gunman, three women were found dead at the Veterans Home of California in Yountville, Chris Childs, assistant chief of the California Highway Patrol's Golden Gate Division, told reporters Friday night.

The suspect was also found dead, Childs said. The three victims were earlier described as employees of The Pathway Home, a counseling service for veterans who suffer post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD), which is on the property.

A man exchanged gunfire with law enforcement officers before taking three people hostage inside the Veterans Home of California in Yountville, authorities said Friday afternoon.

Hostage negotiators spent hours trying to contact the gunman but had not been able to do so, California Highway Patrol spokesman Robert Nacke said at 9 p.m. ET.

The three hostages are employees of The Pathway Home, a counseling service for veterans who suffer post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD), and not residents of the facility north of San Francisco, Napa County Sheriff John Robertson said at a news conference.


https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/09/us/gunfire-at-california-veterans-home/index.html

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Three women, gunman dead after hostage standoff at veterans home in Yountville, California (Original Post) RandySF Mar 2018 OP
Another day in land of the free and home of the NRA /nt thbobby Mar 2018 #1
LORD shenmue Mar 2018 #2
NRA Members Love This Shit SoCalMusicLover Mar 2018 #3
They're probably out the door right now to go buy more guns for their collection. Aristus Mar 2018 #4
Is the NRA going to send thoughts and prayers?!? BigmanPigman Mar 2018 #5
Just to the shooters family. The workers made the conscious effort not to arm themselves. TheBlackAdder Mar 2018 #13
Exactly. BigmanPigman Mar 2018 #15
This happened in my backyard stopwastingmymoney Mar 2018 #6
They did not deserve any of that. jeffreyi Mar 2018 #7
Gunman identified as Afganistan veteran and former patient. moriah Mar 2018 #8
So tell me RandySF Mar 2018 #9
It's the guns, not the schools. no_hypocrisy Mar 2018 #10
ever notice the common theme amongst all the mass shootings is the presence of a gun? KG Mar 2018 #11
yes. those that beat around the bush.... IcyPeas Mar 2018 #18
White rage strikes again. Retrotech Mar 2018 #12
He was a mentally ill vet RandySF Mar 2018 #14
And he wasn't Caucasian. LisaL Mar 2018 #17
One of the things some gun nuts were saying after Florida school shooting it's to hire vets JI7 Mar 2018 #16

Aristus

(66,355 posts)
4. They're probably out the door right now to go buy more guns for their collection.
Sat Mar 10, 2018, 01:29 AM
Mar 2018

More guns mean more freedom, right?

Right?

BigmanPigman

(51,591 posts)
5. Is the NRA going to send thoughts and prayers?!?
Sat Mar 10, 2018, 01:31 AM
Mar 2018

Another American man...what else is new?
What excuses will they give this time?

Here is info on the activities planned to support gun control
in the next two months. Spread the word. RESIST! It is for National events that have been planned since the school shooting.

https://sandiegofreepress.org/2018/02/a-spring-of-student-protest-aimed-at-gun-violence/
https://facebook.us17.list-manage.com/subscribe/post?u=4423c087c47c8b126e216d0fc&id=640d43f493
https://www.facebook.com/marchforourlives/events
http://time.com/5167102/march-for-our-lives-parkland-school-shooting-protest/

Nationwide WALKOUT March 14th.
MARCH FOR OUR LIVES March 24th.

TheBlackAdder

(28,194 posts)
13. Just to the shooters family. The workers made the conscious effort not to arm themselves.
Sat Mar 10, 2018, 12:08 PM
Mar 2018

.



While I post the sarcasm thingie, am I really being sarcastic? It's the way these folks think.

That is why it is bullshit to think that "the good guy" will save the day. They view those who do not arm themselves as making the conscious effort not to protect themselves. Since unarmed people assume the risks of being shot, these NRA folks will not risk their own lives to save someone who did not want to protect themself in the first place.

.

BigmanPigman

(51,591 posts)
15. Exactly.
Sat Mar 10, 2018, 06:56 PM
Mar 2018

They would be thrilled if we all walked around wearing bullet proof vests 24/7 and even 10 old carrying little child sized guns until the are bigger and can handle a semi automatic. They have twisted logic...they are mentally ill in a way (unnecessarily violent and paranoid).

stopwastingmymoney

(2,042 posts)
6. This happened in my backyard
Sat Mar 10, 2018, 02:29 AM
Mar 2018

There have been sirens and helicopters happening all day

I'm so sorry for those women, they did a difficult job, helping people and deserved better than this.

RIP

moriah

(8,311 posts)
8. Gunman identified as Afganistan veteran and former patient.
Sat Mar 10, 2018, 04:18 AM
Mar 2018
http://abc7news.com/what-we-know-about-the-identified-yountville-gunman/3197055/

The gunman, identified as 36-year-old Albert Wong, was a military veteran. Armed with a rifle, he stormed an office at the veterans home and shot the three hostages, and then turned the gun on himself.

Authorities say Wong was a former soldier and patient of the workers.

Department of Defense officials said Wong was a decorated U.S. soldier who served on active duty from May 2010 to August 2013. He spent a year in Afghanistan. Records obtained Friday said Wong was awarded four medals, including an Afghanistan campaign medal with two campaign stars in the infantry during his years of active service in the U.S. Army.

He was also awarded an Expert Marksmanship Badge with Rifle.


Another article:

https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/california/Police-Activity-Reported-at-Veterans-Home-in-Yountville-476397693.html

State Senator Bill Dodd said the suspect was reportedly a veteran enrolled in the PTSD program offered at the facility, but had been asked to leave earlier this week.


These professionals certainly didn't deserve death. I am curious why he was rejected from the program and if this was some revenge for either rejecting him from it or, perhaps, reporting that he was showing danger signs after rejecting him from the program. If the latter, obviously authorities didn't act in time.

And sadly if those were his primary caregivers, we may never know exactly why. But it does, no pun intended, shoot holes in the idea that we should be employing veterans to protect schools. Combat has a tendency to fuck people up, even if it might also give them expert marksmanship. Even just a bad reflex could lead to a tragedy with someone who *didn't* snap but was armed and used to having to keep from dying.

RandySF

(58,823 posts)
9. So tell me
Sat Mar 10, 2018, 05:32 AM
Mar 2018

Who will be the first Republican with the courage to take guns away from the veterans they claim to love so much?

no_hypocrisy

(46,104 posts)
10. It's the guns, not the schools.
Sat Mar 10, 2018, 08:16 AM
Mar 2018

Looking back on the past three weeks, you'd have to build "safe rooms" in all buildings and even that wouldn't answer the problem of people with guns who want to kill.

IcyPeas

(21,871 posts)
18. yes. those that beat around the bush....
Sat Mar 10, 2018, 07:14 PM
Mar 2018

blaming any and everything thing else have a case of willful blindness.

getting rid of guns is the only solution..... so yeah, in my dreams.

☮️

JI7

(89,249 posts)
16. One of the things some gun nuts were saying after Florida school shooting it's to hire vets
Sat Mar 10, 2018, 06:59 PM
Mar 2018

Arm the veterans and have them guard schools .

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