Could We Please Start the 2020 Presidential Race Arguments in November?

[MineralMan]

We already have elections coming up for countless legislative and other races in 2018. There will be ample time to talk about who should run for President for the Democratic Party following that mid-term election.

So, let's focus on winning back congressional and state legislative majorities this year, and worry about the Presidential election after this November's elections. We need all of our energy devoted to this year's races in every district and state.

Please. Thanks.

[Heartstrings]

1. Midterms, Midterms, Midterms!

Damn, have been saying this for way too long.....if we don't take back control our chances for 2020 are null and void....

Yet, the battles over previous elections and the one too far away to even give credence to, are argued endlessly.....

Focus on Midterms and GOTV!!!

Thank you, MM!

[MineralMan]

4. Exactly!

[angrychair]

44. Agree

Nothing is more important than 2018!!! Nothing is more important than taking as many seats as we can in state legislatures and Congress.
GOTV

[bigtree]

2. discussing those here has a negligible effect on most anything.

...I'm always amused by folks who think DU is some sort of remote control to the elections.

Besides, the 2020 contest has already begun. I'm not understanding why we should sit on our hands about that presidential contest when Trump is already on the road campaigning for the job.

It's not as if both can't exist here at the same time, and I'm sure they will.

[MineralMan]

6. As I look at the GD thread list,

I see more Bernie Sanders threads than threads about any midterm races. I want to hear from people about their own congressional and state legislative races. I want to see enthusiasm for the midterms. We'll be having presidential primaries in due time. Let whoever wants to run put their names forward for those.

We can decide who is our nominee in the 2018 primaries. For now, who's running for Congress in your state? I have no idea. Let's hear about that, OK?

[bigtree]

8. probably the best way to make that happen

...is to post something along those lines and try and attract interest.

I don't think these scolding threads, complaining about stuff posted you're not interested in, get you anywhere closer to what you want.

[MineralMan]

9. I see. Well, I think I'll just continue to post my way, if you don't mind.

And I'll expect others to do the same.

[Heartstrings]

11. I have this man getting arrested, with his head held high....

Randy Bryce, Randy Bryce, Randy Bryce!

He's running against Paul Ryan and deserves more focus than any discussion of 2020, imo.....

[MineralMan]

13. I agree. That race in Wisconsin could possibly be a Democratic win.

It's worth a shot, I believe. But, if we ignore it, or think it's unwinnable, while looking beyond 2018, we miss a huge opportunity to activate voters in Ryan's district. Why would we do that?

Thank you for this excellent example of 2018 issues we should be focusing on.

[Heartstrings]

16. You're welcome, MM!

I will obnoxiously be promoting Randy Bryce for the months to come!

We also are going to have a gubernatorial race to outseat Walker....that's huge in WI as well!

[MineralMan]

18. I encourage you to post more about races in your state,

with information on how we can help. We have an opportunity in 2018 to do a great deal, if we can manage to energize Democratic voters in a way we don't usually for mid-term elections.

For me, that is the real thing we should be promoting. Getting out the Democratic vote in numbers that break records will do more than anything else we could possibly do, and in every state and district. We could win races nobody would believe could be won.

[Heartstrings]

21. I do as much as I can

and it amazes me the negative responses I get re; "we have elections in our state as well, why should I donate (which is what Randy Bryce needs the most currently) to your state?"

Well, if you hate Paul Ryan, isn't that reason enough?

[MineralMan]

22. I work primarily in my own state and districts, too.

I have precious little money to donate in the first place. However, I can see no benefit in being negative about other races. I can't see any way that is beneficial. I'll be following the campaign in Ryan's district. If I can possibly help, I will.

[Heartstrings]

23. Thank you!

I'm not even in his district to be able to cast a vote, but will promote this good man nonetheless! We do what we can.....

[LakeArenal]

26. Randy Bryce, Randy Bryce, Randy Bryce.

Defeat Ryan. With a real human.

[Heartstrings]

29. Good one, LA! Nt

[sharedvalues]

43. Randy Bryce! +1

[dameatball]

32. A humble newby agrees with you. Trump campaigns every day. Of course he may not matter by 2020

In my ideal world of course.

[dalton99a]

3. Agreed. GOTV.

Get every Democrat to the polls

[marble falls]

5. Can we concentrate on getting out the vote for 2018 first? Any other election is distraction from...

the buisness of gaining state legislature seats and Congress.

[Squinch]

7. Tammy Duckworth!! ..... sorry... Yes, my midterm strategy: Any D in a storm. Or on a ballot.

[GoCubsGo]

10. I automatically hit the "Trash this tread" box when I see 'em.

[MineralMan]

12. That's one approach, I guess.

I just skip such threads for the most part. I'm not much for hiding threads, myself.

[GoCubsGo]

14. I just don't like them taking up space.

They tend to attract a lot of attention, which causes other threads to get bumped too far down on the list, which I often wind up missing. I get tired of constantly having to scroll past them.

[MineralMan]

15. Yup. I understand completely.

[GoCubsGo]

17. Some of them are also pretty obviously bots/trolls here to stir shit.

Got no time for that.

[MineralMan]

19. Perhaps. However, I believe it is more important to promote

candidates and activism that accomplishes goals than to engage negatively about such things. I always prefer positive messaging to arguing, really.

[sammythecat]

24. Every single one of 'em is a shitstorm with

with the same tiresome cast of characters. If you've ever, in the past year and a half, read a post with the word "Bernie" in it there's no need to read another. They all immediately devolve into the same damn thing, same people, same complaints, as it was in the beginning, is now and ever shall be, world without end, amen.

[USALiberal]

20. It is weird that people are discussing things on a discussion board!!!!! nt

[former9thward]

25. Especially a political discussion board.

How dare they!

[redstatebluegirl]

27. Midterms!!!!! We have to focus on MIDTERMS! Thanks MineralMan!

[MineralMan]

28. And Thank You for the Kick!

[MBS]

30. THANK YOU. n/t

[MineralMan]

31. It's My Pleasure!

[mcar]

33. Agree 100%!

I'm very concerned about voter suppression in November. Getting in a left v left 2020 war could do just that.

I recall how the negativity by some on the left toward the ACA caused a weak midterm turnnout. I fear some want that to happen again.

[MineralMan]

34. Thank you!

A huge turnout can beat the pants of suppression attempts.

[mcar]

35. Yes!

We cannot let negativity toward Democrats drive down voter enthusiasm. I will fight that here and everywhere I can.

[bpj62]

36. VA 10th

I am doing everything I can to ensure that we defeat Barbara Comstock in November. I am also making sure that Tim Kaine is reelected as well. The GOP is going to nominate someone who is farther right than Atiitla the Hun. Good thing is Kaine always runs scared so he will take any candidate seriously. 2020 is not on my radar screen yet. Het the House back and you stop the flow of money into the wrong places.

[grantcart]

37. Fine just as long as we have a daily lecture from a self appointed

"progressive" on the shortcomings of the Democratic Party, even though he/she refuses to join it.

[sharedvalues]

38. Was that really necessary?

Let's talk about issues.
And about voter turnout and registration. GOTV!

[grantcart]

40. Is it really necessary to spam DU with lectures from non party members?

First issue is the importance of building group cohesion, if goes back to FDR/TRUMAN/LBJ. it's an essential element to building long term trust, especially among communities that don't feel included.

Why are you against the value of group solidarity and mutual support?

[sharedvalues]

41. I am in favor of positivity and focusing on productive action.

For example: registering voters. Working on turnout. Telling friends and family that Fox and Limbaugh lie to them to get votes for billionaires. Marching. Calling Senators and Reps.

Let's all focus on those things. The best resistance is positive persistence.

[dlk]

39. Amen! Dems Need to Stay Focused on the Mid-Terms--Far too Much is at Stake!

With the very future of our republic in serious jeopardy, let's just marshall all of our energy and efforts on the next step--the mid-terms. Depending on that outcome, then Dems can strategize their next steps.

[sharedvalues]

42. We're going to win the midterms. Turnout, especially amongst 18-29, will lead to a blue wave. nm

... but don't sit back now, keep working!