Mueller obstruction probe said to be close to completion.

[NCTraveler]

Mueller Is Said to Weigh Putting Off Trump Obstruction Decision

(Bloomberg) -- Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation into whether President Donald Trump obstructed justice is said to be close to completion, but he may set it aside while he finishes other key parts of his probe, such as possible collusion and the hacking of Democrats, according to current and former U.S. officials.

That’s because Mueller may calculate that if he tries to bring charges in the obstruction case -- the part that may hit closest to Trump personally -- witnesses may become less cooperative in other parts of the probe, or the president may move to shut it down altogether.

The revelation is a peek into Muller’s calculations as he proceeds with his many-headed probe, while pressure builds from the president’s advisers and other Republicans to show progress or wrap it up.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/mueller-is-said-to-weigh-putting-off-trump-obstruction-decision/ar-BBK7FTo?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=mailsignout

[Barn Owl]

1. What do we do if

He is found to have obstructed justice and the Congress does not impeach and remove him?

A sitting President can not be tried for a crime until after he is left office. Mueller would have his hands tied if the Congress does not remove him from office.

[NCTraveler]

2. We keep fighting.

There is no requirement for impeachment to start. I'm not even sure I would want one to off of obstruction alone. That simply isn't enough. We have set the bar above that, IMO.

[Barn Owl]

4. I guess my point was

Everything no matter what Mueller proves all hinges on Congress impeaching and removing Trump from office because Mueller himself can take no criminal prosecutorial action against Trump as long as he is the sitting president.

[NCTraveler]

7. I don't believe this to be accurate.

"Everything no matter what Mueller proves all hinges on Congress impeaching and removing Trump from office because Mueller himself can take no criminal prosecutorial action against Trump as long as he is the sitting president."

What Mueller delivers to congress will have a serious impact no matter the actions of congress. Of course, a competent congress would help.

[marylandblue]

3. Don't assume he can't be tried until he leaves office

There is no precedent that says that and it may not be Mueller's opinion.

[Barn Owl]

5. I was referring to this article

And have heard this brought up before.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2017/06/08/sitting-presidents-cant-be-prosecuted-probably/

[marylandblue]

9. Yes it has been brought up before

But it's rebuttal has not been mentioned as much. The rebuttal is that OLC does not make regulation or policy and prior special counsels have determined they could prosecute the president. If Mueller decides to prosecute, OLC can't stop him.

[Barn Owl]

10. That is true

But it would be a decision that ultimately would have to be decided by SCOTUS. Mueller would still have his hands tied until a ruling finally was handed down on this issue.

[marylandblue]

11. I think that would part of his intent

That a precedent needs to be established so it is not an open question anymore.

[Barn Owl]

13. But by the time that decision

Is handed down the president could be leaving office or been reelected to a second term. If that happens then I would assume many political decision would be part of the final decision .

[marylandblue]

14. I think the decision will be fast tracked like some other very important decisions have been

[jrthin]

6. If Mueller and his team are not leaking, this

seems like speculation.

[NCTraveler]

8. I don't think that can be thought of in binary terms.

There are numerous reasons this might be being put forward. Not all above board.

[old guy]

12. Speculation at best.

[kentuck]

15. Psychological warfare by Mueller...

If Trump thinks he is not going to be charged with obstruction of justice, he wouldn't dare try to fire anyone and revive the charges. It's a chess move by Mueller.