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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsCould Elizabeth Warren's "heritage" problem be a sleeping winner for Dems?
Think about this...
Lets say she takes the test - discovers she has no detectable NA heritage.
Fine - but how typical is this?
Even the commercials for these services address this issue.
"We thought we were German - we weren't German at all."
I think this is very common - people have a surname and think they are of that ethnicity - which is a ridiculous assumption.
I roll my eyes when I see that "Its just a hat" commercial - c'mon...you take a DNA test - and then change your personal identity...please.
The farther you push back to find a connection - the smaller that chance becomes.
What does this say?
It says - look how quickly we become Americans - and could quell big picture fears about immigration.
The pot continues to melt. It works.
FSogol
(45,484 posts)hexola
(4,835 posts)I think it would get old even for them.
2020 - if we get there - wont be anything like 2016.
There won't be 17 Republicans - that gave Trumps shallow one liner style and advantage.
He wont have that this time.
samnsara
(17,622 posts)..Heritage. My sis took a DNA test...NO NA DNA. The rest of us took the test...no NA DNA..Mostly what we thought..English, Welsh, Irish...blah blah. My mother was...needless to say...very sad by the results.
hexola
(4,835 posts)You can't make assumptions based on family tree.
Get it done Liz - get it out there...
"Elizabeth Warrens DNA Test is in - 100% AMERICAN!"
See how I flipped it around there..!?
haele
(12,653 posts)Or it may be that she heard the story from other relatives from a generation or so back who were hiding an Irish heritage during a period where "Irish need not apply". Being "enough Cherokee" to explain tricks of speech and non WASP looks, but "not enough" to have been forcibly emmigrated during the 1830's was a way many people of Irish, and eastern European heritage thought they could get past immigrant bars in the later 1800's.
So long as that native blood supposedly got mixed in before the war of Independence, that is. It made for a romantic story -like something Cooper or Longfellow would write about - and created an illusion of American heritage the family could cling to as the children assimilated into the society around them. I've noticed that families where such "Indian background" stories come out of tend to be in the Southeast and up the Eastern side of the Midwest, where the frontier had pretty much been settled over by the 1850's and 1860's - and there were no reservations around for long-time locals to practice their civic bigotry on.
And the NA heritage always seems to be from either a Princess or a heroic lone Scout who saved a White settlement...damn you J.F. Cooper...
Haele
WePurrsevere
(24,259 posts)More so with NA.
If you'd like to learn a bit more about how the ethnicity part of DNA works I suggest these two articles. They're pretty basic but may help clear misunderstandings about how the tests work and don't.
This one is specific to NA DNA...
Http://www.rootsandrecombinantdna.com/2015/03/native-american-dna-is-just-not-that.html
This is more general...
http://www.legalgenealogist.com/2014/05/18/admixture-not-soup-yet/
FWIW, partially for the reasons outlined in the two links above, I absolutely don't think Warren should take a public test. There are ways she could take one and keep it private if she chose too but this push to make her take a test is ridiculous and insulting.
LexVegas
(6,060 posts)Some white people hate to think they may not be pure. Others would give anything to have a "detectable" minority heritage.
I think its funny.
BannonsLiver
(16,387 posts)There are some surprises in these tests. But of course if you have no curiosity, intellectual or otherwise, they offer little appeal. Also if you are a paranoiac (Thanks Mooch!) they're probably not a good idea.
NutmegYankee
(16,199 posts)For instance, my sister and I came out with different results. Clearly siblings, but I inherited a lot more Irish genes.
WePurrsevere
(24,259 posts)how DNA works at least the basics and with the ethnicity (admixture) aspect.