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RKP5637

(67,108 posts)
Mon Mar 12, 2018, 04:55 PM Mar 2018

How two of President John Tyler's grandsons are still alive, 174 years later



https://www.cbsnews.com/news/how-two-of-president-john-tylers-grandsons-are-still-alive/

CHARLES CITY, Va. -- John Tyler was the first vice president elevated to the presidency on the death of the chief executive and the first president to marry in the White House. Nearly 175 years later, two of his grandchildren are still around.

Harrison Ruffin Tyler, 89, is one of two living grandsons of President John Tyler, who was born in 1790, one year after George Washington was sworn in as president.

Just three generations -- President Tyler, his son Lyon Tyler, and grandson Harrison -- span almost the entire history of the United States.

Here's how it happened. John Tyler became president in 1841. He had eight children with his first wife, who died while he was in office. At 52, he married 22-year-old Julia Gardiner. They had seven children, for a total of 15 -- the most of any president. He was 63 when son Lyon Tyler was born, whose first wife also died. Lyon also had a very young second wife, and was 75 years old when Harrison Tyler was born in 1928.

William showed us around Sherwood Forest Plantation, a home President Tyler renovated with his wife Julia in mind. She was 30 years younger and liked to party. William says the house is also haunted. He showed us a spot on a wall where you can see what looks like a young woman.


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How two of President John Tyler's grandsons are still alive, 174 years later (Original Post) RKP5637 Mar 2018 OP
I've read this story before, and it never fails to astonish me! CaliforniaPeggy Mar 2018 #1
And they look good too, far different than what I expected before I saw the photo. n/t RKP5637 Mar 2018 #2
I have a somewhat similar experience... Dennis Donovan Mar 2018 #3
My father was also 42 when I was born (1955) Cirque du So-What Mar 2018 #4
Cool stuff, isn't it? Dennis Donovan Mar 2018 #6
My great-grandfather was also at Gettysburg ..... kwassa Mar 2018 #10
He was born in 1846 Cirque du So-What Mar 2018 #11
Not really the same thing, but... BobTheSubgenius Mar 2018 #13
Makes me feel old knowing my mother safeinOhio Mar 2018 #5
That's very cool! nt DesertRat Mar 2018 #7
I attended a basketball coaching clinic oswaldactedalone Mar 2018 #14
"She was 30 years younger and liked to party." IronLionZion Mar 2018 #8
wow, indeed! yuiyoshida Mar 2018 #9
We have a series of men in my paternal line Orange Free State Mar 2018 #12

CaliforniaPeggy

(149,616 posts)
1. I've read this story before, and it never fails to astonish me!
Mon Mar 12, 2018, 05:10 PM
Mar 2018

The men were extremely healthy, lived very long lives, were fertile as well..........and there you have it.

Dennis Donovan

(18,770 posts)
3. I have a somewhat similar experience...
Mon Mar 12, 2018, 05:56 PM
Mar 2018

I was born in 1965, and my dad was 42. Dad was born in 1923, and his dad was 28.

My grandfather was born in 1895 and his dad was 50.

My great-grandfather was born in 1846 and when his father was 50.

So, my great-great-grandfather, only 4 gens away from me, was born in 1794 (during the Washington Admin) and fought in the war of 1812 (his unit was present on the outskirts of Washington when the British burned the White House and the Capitol down).

My great-grandfather was old enough to serve in the Civil War, but I've never found and records that showed him serving.

Cirque du So-What

(25,938 posts)
4. My father was also 42 when I was born (1955)
Mon Mar 12, 2018, 06:33 PM
Mar 2018

I have a great-grandfather who was in the Civil War. He was injured at Gettysburg and spent the rest of his life in a wheelchair. He lived until 1938, however, and served as a living link to that era.

Dennis Donovan

(18,770 posts)
6. Cool stuff, isn't it?
Mon Mar 12, 2018, 07:05 PM
Mar 2018

My great-great-grandfather fought with the NY 111th at Gettysburg, was wounded, but her made it back to fight again and was badly wounded at the Battle of the Wilderness. Here he is after enlistment:

kwassa

(23,340 posts)
10. My great-grandfather was also at Gettysburg .....
Mon Mar 12, 2018, 08:08 PM
Mar 2018

Born in 1840, served in the First Maine Cavalry, was detailed to a Pennsylvania infantry as a courier, was part of the defensive retreat on the first day of the battle that gave time for the Union army to seize the high ground. He was reported to be the last man on a horse in a unit that suffered 60-70% casualties.

He was wounded at the siege of Petersburg late in the war, but survived the wound, or I would not be here.

He died of an apparent heart attack at the 50th reunion of the battle of Gettysburg in 1913, at age 70. Your great-grandfather must have been very old in 1938, close to 100 years old.

BobTheSubgenius

(11,563 posts)
13. Not really the same thing, but...
Mon Mar 12, 2018, 09:06 PM
Mar 2018

...my wife has a picture of her mother, and they are in that picture with a total of 5 living generations. That doesn't happen to often.

When I was in Grade 11, a friend of mine's oldest sibling was in his 40s.

safeinOhio

(32,677 posts)
5. Makes me feel old knowing my mother
Mon Mar 12, 2018, 06:45 PM
Mar 2018

took a class in college from Dr. James Naismith, the man that invented the game of basketball.

oswaldactedalone

(3,491 posts)
14. I attended a basketball coaching clinic
Mon Mar 12, 2018, 09:12 PM
Mar 2018

in 1994 which was run by John McLendon. If you don't know who John McLendon is, he has a fascinating history as a college and pro basketball coach. Interestingly enough, he's a Kansas native and attended the University of Kansas in the 30s. He wasn't allowed to play basketball there due to segregation but worked as an assistant to the athletic director there, none other than James Naismith himself. I was expecting to see a very old person who would need help conducting the clinic, but he looked about 30 years younger than his age and moved around like a much younger man.

McLendon is one of the most important figures in the development of modern day basketball strategy but is largely overlooked. There are many places on the web to learn more about him.

Now, back to the amazing story about the Tyler grandchildren. That's simply amazing.

Orange Free State

(611 posts)
12. We have a series of men in my paternal line
Mon Mar 12, 2018, 08:28 PM
Mar 2018

Fathering children in their 40s and 50s, not as old as the Tylers. My grandfather was born in 1881,the year of the gunfight at the OK Corral. His father, my great-grandfather, was born in 1838, a subject of the King of Prussia. My dad’s mother was born a subject of Queen Victoria in 1882. I am 60 and my son is a Junior at University.

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