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Heidi Heitkamp just wishes Hillary would go away (Original Post) Motley13 Mar 2018 OP
Who? And we care, why? Squinch Mar 2018 #1
A seat we need to hold to take back the Senate n/m RhodeIslandOne Mar 2018 #3
True, we do need to hold it, liberalhistorian Mar 2018 #14
A shame RhodeIslandOne Mar 2018 #17
N.D. Senator, a Democrat (sort of). The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2018 #2
So that SHE can be the Queen Bee. marybourg Mar 2018 #4
She's an extremely vulnerable Democrat in a deep red state. bearsfootball516 Mar 2018 #5
Agreed. She represents a conservative state. Sienna86 Mar 2018 #7
"All politics is local." demosincebirth Mar 2018 #11
And in an incredible turn of events gratuitous Mar 2018 #12
Why Should She Me. Mar 2018 #6
Because if Hillary stops saying things, the Trumpanzees will be nice to her . . . hatrack Mar 2018 #8
And will also never be mean to any other Dem ever again EffieBlack Mar 2018 #9
Hillary could cure cancer, and they'd accuse her of putting MDs out of work hatrack Mar 2018 #10
Remembers, she's a North Dakota Dem, liberalhistorian Mar 2018 #13
here is the story Motley13 Mar 2018 #15
Democrats in seats like this... NCTraveler Mar 2018 #16
She comes from a very red state. JI7 Mar 2018 #18
Is this really the most important story available for the media to cover? When Hillary doesn't say still_one Mar 2018 #19
All those who don't give a big brown rat's ass what Heidi doesn't like raise you hand. Keep 'em up! Atticus Mar 2018 #20
Oh goody, another bash Hillary thread mcar Mar 2018 #21
Centrist Dem in a ruby Red state playing the game as she sees it needs to be played to win Exotica Mar 2018 #22
What would Heidi do if she didn't have Democrats to bash? DURHAM D Mar 2018 #23

liberalhistorian

(20,818 posts)
14. True, we do need to hold it,
Thu Mar 15, 2018, 06:20 PM
Mar 2018

but I'm not sure that's going to happen this time. She only won last time thanks to the Indian vote, which put her over the edge. But her lack of support for them during the NO DAPL protests, even when they were getting attacked, persecuted and harassed, has greatly angered them and they will not be turning out to support her this time.

 

RhodeIslandOne

(5,042 posts)
17. A shame
Thu Mar 15, 2018, 06:29 PM
Mar 2018

"When given the choice between a real Republican and a Democrat acting like a Republican they'll take the real one every time" - Harry Truman.

bearsfootball516

(6,377 posts)
5. She's an extremely vulnerable Democrat in a deep red state.
Thu Mar 15, 2018, 06:03 PM
Mar 2018

I don't love that she said that, but he has to play to her audience. Similar to Conor Lamb saying he's anti-Pelosi.

Sienna86

(2,149 posts)
7. Agreed. She represents a conservative state.
Thu Mar 15, 2018, 06:05 PM
Mar 2018

I don’t always like her votes but certain things don’t help her re-election chances.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
12. And in an incredible turn of events
Thu Mar 15, 2018, 06:15 PM
Mar 2018

Sen. Heitkamp just happened to get booked by chucktodd to say it to the nation. Amazing!

I wonder if chucktodd is going to have Maxine Waters on anytime soon?

Me.

(35,454 posts)
6. Why Should She
Thu Mar 15, 2018, 06:03 PM
Mar 2018

HRC is a private citizen and can do as she pleases. Heitkamp does plenty that I don't like.

hatrack

(59,584 posts)
10. Hillary could cure cancer, and they'd accuse her of putting MDs out of work
Thu Mar 15, 2018, 06:13 PM
Mar 2018

She could shit $20 gold pieces, and they'd accuse her of gaming the commodity markets.

She could walk on water, and they'd accuse her of being unable to swim.

How about we start worrying less about the preordained future - the fact that the MAGAtts are going to howl at the moon about "Hillary! HILARY!!! HILLLLARRRRYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!" until they're pushing up daisies - and worry more what Democrats are going to do, how all of us can help, and how we're going to win this fucking thing in 2018 and 2020?

liberalhistorian

(20,818 posts)
13. Remembers, she's a North Dakota Dem,
Thu Mar 15, 2018, 06:17 PM
Mar 2018

and that state is about as red as you can get (I live in South Dakota, which is just as bad). She's really a DINO, and is in for a real political fight to keep her seat so she's got to pander to the wingnuts and has no problem doing so. Problem is, the hypocrite doesn't realize that, given a choice between a DINO pandering to the RW and a real RW, most red states, including ND, will take the real RW every time.

Also, she only won her seat thanks to the substantial Indian vote in ND. She barely won, and their votes were what put her over the edge. She has, however, completely lost that vote, and deservedly so, given her lack of sympathy and action during the NO DAPL protests. She didn't support them at all, even when they were being attacked, persecuted and harassed, and when the ND legislature was going after them full throttle during their session last year, introducing tons of bills against them and protests in general. They will remember and will not support her this time.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
16. Democrats in seats like this...
Thu Mar 15, 2018, 06:25 PM
Mar 2018

Are not hurt by opposing Clintons comments. People want to preach to Trump supporters on the one hand and claim opposing Clinton is bad on the other.

still_one

(92,187 posts)
19. Is this really the most important story available for the media to cover? When Hillary doesn't say
Thu Mar 15, 2018, 06:40 PM
Mar 2018

anything she is critisized. When Hillary doesn't smile she is critisized.

When people accuse Hillary of doing something she didn't do, and she responds to those accusations, she is criticized for responding

The irony of this faux outrage at something a private citizen has said, the LACK of outrage when sanctions against Russia aren't implemented. The silence when Arkansas joins the increasing number of other red states requiring proof of employment in order to qualify for Medicaid.

Trump LIES on an almost daily basis, yet the media refuses to call him a liar

Where is the outrage, hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

While there is no doubt Heitkamp is doing this for political considerations, I wonder if this was the thirties in Germany, would Heitkamp be so shy speaking out against those supporting Hitler? This isn't an unreasonable speculation, because during the campaign when Hillary referred to the KKK and other white supremacist groups supporting trump as deplorables, Heitkamp expressed regret at Hillary using such language

Atticus

(15,124 posts)
20. All those who don't give a big brown rat's ass what Heidi doesn't like raise you hand. Keep 'em up!
Thu Mar 15, 2018, 06:42 PM
Mar 2018

We're still counting!

mcar

(42,307 posts)
21. Oh goody, another bash Hillary thread
Thu Mar 15, 2018, 06:48 PM
Mar 2018

Heitkamp will say what she thinks she needs to so that she can win reelection. I'm disagree with the attack Hillary/Pelosi strategy, but I don't live in ND.

Regardless, is this really newsworthy?

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