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shockey80

(4,379 posts)
Sun Mar 18, 2018, 11:27 AM Mar 2018

Do not fear Trump firing Mueller, wish for it.

I have been reading up on Watergate, supreme court decisions, etc and I have concluded firing Mueller would be the worst mistake Trump could make. It would expedite his removal. It would be Watergate on steroids.

If he fires Mueller that would be an admission of guilt and obstruction of Justice.

It would set off a constitutional crisis. Lawsuits would be filed immediatly and it would go to the supreme court. Trump would lose.

It would set off a firestorm in congress, among the American people and the news media. Things would get very ugly, quickly.

It would be very bad for Republicans running for office. Thats a key point. Republicans don't react until their jobs are on the line.

What Trump is doing now is his best bet. Lying about the investigation, calling it fake , a which hunt. He has tens of millions of idiots who will believe him. It he were smart he would do everything he could to extend the investigation and create a fake reality about the investigation.Try to make Muellers charges unbelievable.

I'm sure Trumps lawyers have told him it would be very risky to fire Mueller. That does not mean he will not do it. He's not to bright.

Do not be surprised if you see Trump and his lawyers use a defense that includes claiming the investigation threatens national security because of international threats, War. Nixon did that. I'm sure Trump and his lawyers have studied Watergate.

The sooner this is over the better. Maybe we all should be wishing he does fire Mueller.

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Do not fear Trump firing Mueller, wish for it. (Original Post) shockey80 Mar 2018 OP
I'm pretty sure Trump DGAF HipChick Mar 2018 #1
He has got away with everything his entire life Bettie Mar 2018 #9
Exactly..but this time HipChick Mar 2018 #10
I certainly hope so Bettie Mar 2018 #12
I hear what you're saying, Glamrock Mar 2018 #2
Admission of guilt yes but liberal N proud Mar 2018 #3
And the current Supreme Court? Bettie Mar 2018 #8
In a better world, maybe yes this would be good. lark Mar 2018 #4
Nothing more worthless than a... lame54 Mar 2018 #5
Agree . . best case scenario Strelnikov_ Mar 2018 #6
This message was self-deleted by its author MaryMagdaline Mar 2018 #7
Firing Mueller would force congress to act. shockey80 Mar 2018 #11
The Voting Booth is the Final Constitutional Check and Balance Stallion Mar 2018 #13
If it's going to happen the sooner the better. DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2018 #14
If Trump fires Mueller, It will wake up the Americans who are not paying attention. shockey80 Mar 2018 #15
Youre aware that wed still have Pence? brooklynite Mar 2018 #16

Bettie

(16,124 posts)
9. He has got away with everything his entire life
Sun Mar 18, 2018, 12:09 PM
Mar 2018

he has never faced any real consequences for any of his actions. Never.

Bettie

(16,124 posts)
12. I certainly hope so
Sun Mar 18, 2018, 12:14 PM
Mar 2018

I go back and forth between despair for the world my kids will enter and hope that he will face some consequences for this.

lark

(23,155 posts)
4. In a better world, maybe yes this would be good.
Sun Mar 18, 2018, 11:34 AM
Mar 2018

However, this is America in 2018 where the russian repugs rule everything for the benefit of the oligarchs. Do you really think Ryan or McConnell will allow orange assface to be held accountable for his treason and conspiracy against America with a foreign country - NO. NO, because they were part of this treason and know it would come out if drumpf goes down. Only if there is multiple tapes of don the con conspiring with russians to steal the election and to lie to the FBI could the repugs possibly be motivated to do anything thru a massive public clamor for action. Mueller must continue until he gets to the truth of an entire political party committing treason against our country for personal gain and shares the proof with the nation. That is our only hope of continuing as a constitutional democracy, IMO.

Strelnikov_

(7,772 posts)
6. Agree . . best case scenario
Sun Mar 18, 2018, 11:39 AM
Mar 2018

Whatever Mueller comes up with, Congress will have to act on. Impeachment (indictment) followed by conviction and removal by the Senate is highly unlikely.

Investigation, indictment and removal can be taken up by the next Congress.

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shockey80

(4,379 posts)
11. Firing Mueller would force congress to act.
Sun Mar 18, 2018, 12:12 PM
Mar 2018

The firestorm would be to big to ignore. Doing nothing would not be an option.

Stallion

(6,476 posts)
13. The Voting Booth is the Final Constitutional Check and Balance
Sun Mar 18, 2018, 01:01 PM
Mar 2018

if the Legislative and Judicial Branch fail to do their job--we are 8 months from the Mid-Terms which could give the Democrats a majority in the House of Representatives which has the power to impeach

 

shockey80

(4,379 posts)
15. If Trump fires Mueller, It will wake up the Americans who are not paying attention.
Sun Mar 18, 2018, 01:53 PM
Mar 2018

A lot of people are not paying attention. They will if that happens. It will spread like a wildfire. If I remember correctly, a lot of Americans ignored Watergate until Nixon started to fire people and the tapes came out.

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