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Civic Justice

(870 posts)
Sun Mar 18, 2018, 06:22 PM Mar 2018

Trump- thinks he's cleared a path to get Mueller

Trump has spent this time trying to "discredit every element of our Law Enforcement and Judicial system, and his recent firing of McCabe, he thinks he has cleared a path to "go after Mueller'. The attorneys who advised him in this matters should all be dis-bared, and charged with collusive criminal conduct of aiding and abetting an Traitor, and engaging in subversice conducts to undermine American Justice.


https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-denounces-muellers-investigative-team-hardened-democrats-161114924.html

Trump is GUILTY!!! of all the acts that have been put forth in the public views of him. From Obstruction, collusion to Obstruct, Money Washing, In Bed with Russian and Owned by Russian Operative.

The public must know that anyone in such a position who has spent the past year, attacking every agency that supports the legal processes in this nation has been attacked. He is accustom to "DENIGRATING PEOPLE", that' was the basis of his TV show, and that was the basis of his "Campaign Strategy" and that has been the basis of his conduct since getting in the Seat of the Presidency.

Our Systems cannot submit themselves to such a vile man with such a vicious and malice'd agenda. He is like an Evil upon the Nations Governance.
The mans whole life has been spent "denigrating people", as his tool to get money, and try and sway peoples minds.

It's time American people stand and speak, and the members of our Departments and Divisions began to speak. This is the worst case of Treason Against American being done from the Highest Office in this Nations, and he should be found Guilt of the High Crimes and High Treason and given the full penalty that calls for.

There is no way that our system of American Governance, should ever allow this madness to continue to this degree. No single being is more Important than this nations, and the money of a Two Bit Criminal, is certainly not worth the Integrity of this Nation, its Systems and the dignity of its people. Trump has insulted and sought to undermine and subvert every aspect of American Democracy!!

Trump is GUILTY!!!

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pepperbear

(5,648 posts)
1. 2 things
Sun Mar 18, 2018, 06:34 PM
Mar 2018

1. If there were so many hardened Democrats infesting the DOJ, why not purge? The WH purges it's "enemies " all the time. 2. If there is no collusion and nothing to hide, why do they keep pointing at it? It would appear the best course of action would be to cooperate with Mueller in every way possible. They're obviously hiding something.

 

Sophia4

(3,515 posts)
5. When Democrats want to work for their country, in government service, there are
Sun Mar 18, 2018, 07:42 PM
Mar 2018

lots of places, offices, departments in which they can feel proud of what they do. If they are lawyers, they can get clerkships for judges. They can work in other departments of the government like HUD or any of a number of others.

The DOJ tends to attract more conservative personalities in my opinion. That's because it enforces the law. People who like to investigate would be drawn to it. There are some liberals, but for the most part, they will tend to be more conservative. That's my opinion and limited experience.

Even if they are registered as Democrats, they probably won't be all that liberal.

 

Civic Justice

(870 posts)
2. It's time for Republicans to Call for Impeachment!!!
Sun Mar 18, 2018, 06:56 PM
Mar 2018

Either they call for Impeachment and Remove this Criminal Vile Man, or they go down with him as a Party in Disgrace.

This insane Tweeting is that of a Raving Mad Man, who is Guilty !!! We can all list down the long list of things he is guilt of.

People need to realize, his TV show was based "purely on denigrating people", his history is filled with that nature of mentality and conduct. He spent 8 yrs trying to do the same to President Obama. He Tried to do it to the Young Kids in the New York Park case.

A leopard does not change its spots, and this old decrepit mad man has not changed his. He has been a vile man his whole life, and the supporters who were mind blind enough with a Serf Mentality, of thinking a rich man was going to give them something, gave him a pass on his Billy Bush Taped Vile.. They allowed him to get a pass on the many women who have made the claims that fit with his character and mentality and his conducts, and Stormy Daniels is credible, and they paid her to to try and silence her.
the long history of this man, is the WORST INSULT to America, a nation the world respects and the world supports our debt ridden currency, simply because they believed in "American's Integrity".... Why are we allowing this One Man, and his Vile to Damage this nation to this degree.

The penalty for Treason: is what Trump is Due.
(( Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 807; Pub. L. 103–322, title XXXIII, § 330016(2)(J), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2148.)

The People of Iraq showed more Integrity than our system is showing, because they stood up for their justice process and had no problem giving Saddam the Penalty he too deserved. They upheld their law...... why are we allowing this madness to continue in America.

Trump's Crimes are a Life Long programming, from fleecing cities, to the IRS and denigrating everything that sustains the integrity of this nation; and he has set out to act out his Crimes against our and upon our United States Government and ALL its Departments and Divisions and the people who head those Departments and Divisions. If our system and its Justice allow this man to get away with this.... We will be diminished around the world, as a nation that is hypocritical, when it comes to the Criminals in our Executive Highest Office.

America will be more highly respected Around the World, when they serve up the Justice to this Criminal, but if our system does not... It will not be respected around the world, when it calls for acts against corrupt and criminal leaders in other countries.

Our Politicians better pay attention and see what is at stake, with this madness, and Republican should be ashame of themselves for their 'disparaging disregard for American and Our American Systems, its Governance and its Departments and Divisions and the vile of their disrespect for the American people and this nation.

We either are a nation of Laws, or we have accepted the Lawlessness and Madness of Trump's Usurping and Attacks Upon and Against of Our System.

His Attack on Mueller... should be the last straw ... in the minds of our Governance Systems and Its Politicians, and it should be Our System of Justice, that stand to bring Justice to the American People and This Nation.

The Framers of the Constitution did not rule out Treason being engaged by one in our Highest Office, who wages war against every Department and Division of our Governance, as that is an act of War, waged from within, he wage war upon the media and individuals, and such acts is "acts of war" upon and against the integrity and dignity of this nation. It's High Crimes and High Treason!!!

This cannot be whitewashed away, or swept under the rug, the whole of the world has the awareness, and see the information and they see the acts of this maniac on a daily basis.

America will survive it, if they take the actions to charge him among all his other crimes, along with Treason, and follow the laws, as it relates to Treason at this high a level, against this nation, and carry out the penalty by our systems Judicial process.

America has to Respect itself as premier concern as a Nation... or it will not only accept this vile and weaken itself more, and gain even greater disrespect around the world.
No Nation will respect us, when we try to remove vile men from leadership in other nations, when we allow this to exist in our own nation.

We can look to see the erosion of our currency status, because it no longer will be any "integrity" of nation and lawfulness to back it.

Trump's and the allowance of him to continue this denigration of American, is pushing us to the greatest down fall in the modern history.

(People have beat around the bush without saying it, but fact is.. Trump is Guilty of a Form and Act of Treason, that this nation never thought it would face).

 

Sophia4

(3,515 posts)
3. The same foreign country that is claimed to have helped to get him elected via
Sun Mar 18, 2018, 07:10 PM
Mar 2018

Facebook and other internet capers is alleged to have infiltrated and perhaps be in control of part of our energy infrastructure, that is our electricity grid.

IF THAT IS TRUE, and we need to be sure it is true before we assume it is, then Trump could have seriously betrayed the security and interests of our country by dealing in a way to harm the US with another nation that wants control over certain vital aspects of our economy and our lives -- our electricity grid.

I am skeptical still at this point because why would Russia or Putin want to control our elections or our electricity grid? And are the facts on which these theories are based true?

I think we have to be very careful because this may be a serious, very serious matter, so we don't want to work on assumptions or theories. We need to know the facts.

I don't feel or think that I do know all the facts.

 

Civic Justice

(870 posts)
4. I would like Our Agencies to Disclose The Information They Have
Sun Mar 18, 2018, 07:32 PM
Mar 2018

I thinks its of utmost importance that our "Agencies Begin to Talk".... and our governance system allows them to Talk, and that the Official's "actually" LISTEN.

The details of The Truth is Out There, and not only in the hands of our own government, but in the hands of other governments as well.

It's time that such information be put forth. We should never be a nation, that allows such a man to level threats and launch attacks of the manner, sort and forms that has been engaged by Trump and the Trump Administration and the Republican Party participating.

From the Minutes that Flynn, a known double agent was allowed to head our National Security, should have been a wake up call to America. Even before that, when Manafort, a former operative to help Ukraine Russian Backed Candidates was put in charge of Trump Campaign, was such a GIANT RED FLAG of what's to come. The question is, how long of a list do we need, before ... our elected people stand up and Respect America and Uphold its Integrity.

The game of "lawyer dodges" is not beneficial to our Justice System, and without a strong Justice System, we are no better than the worst Third World Nation. Every day it continues, is every day, we "endorse" this nation becoming and being made into a Plutocracy.

 

poboy2

(2,078 posts)
6. All of the theater of midnight runs, calling FBI corrupt- ALL OF IT is to
Sun Mar 18, 2018, 07:48 PM
Mar 2018

set up a flimsy alternate reality based on false outcomes and fabricated 'stories'. This is happening even having to use evidence that CONTRADICTS the narrative. Comey and McCabe's actions HELPED TRUMP. The Russians HELPED TRUMP.

The story they tell is completely opposite of those two examples (there are more)irrefutable facts. They just keep saying it as if true. Same goes for the Steele Dossier. They keep saying it was the basis, BUT IT WAS NOT.

Oh, and the agents are all republicans too. Fuck, so ridiculous.

Let us pound reality and facts over and over.

philly_bob

(2,419 posts)
7. Trump is guilty -- but of what? What can Mueller prove?
Sun Mar 18, 2018, 10:39 PM
Mar 2018

Here's my estimate of the chance of convincing evidence for the following crimes.

Money-laundering for Russians (including before 2016): 95%
Obstruction of Justice (after 2016): 95%
Not reporting contacts with foreign agents: 80%
Using office for financial benefit of his business & family: 80%
Collusion with Russia to swing 2016 election: 30%
Changing outcome of 2016 election: 20%

The last two are only low because of the difficulty of proving them.

Some major unknowns are who stole the DNC data? Was it Russia or a dissident Democrat (Seth Rich)? Who shut down DU? Was the RNC database also stolen?

Whatever, I'll be out there demonstrating if Trump fires Mueller, or sitting in my easy chair with popcorn for the impeachment hearing.

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