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poboy2
(2,078 posts)Saviolo
(3,282 posts)Unbelievable amounts of profit. The increase in profit that they're getting is higher than what most people make in 10 years, and that's just the INCREASE.
Anon-C
(3,430 posts)Blue Owl
(50,356 posts)to the klink with his lardy ass
dchill
(38,484 posts)Still he pResides.
NRaleighLiberal
(60,014 posts)peggysue2
(10,828 posts)Seth Abramson! Some of us saw this reality some 18 months ago. But better late than never.
Eyeball_Kid
(7,431 posts)He's been screaming about Trumpy as a Russian asset and sociopath for several months. He's not late to the show. If anything, he stood in line before anyone else showed up.
NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)on this issue.
JI7
(89,248 posts)Ferrets are Cool
(21,106 posts)if he doesn't serve the full 4 years, it wont be for stealing an election.
2left4u
(186 posts)Trump isn't smart enough to do all that.
The Russians did it, they just told Trump where to go and what to say.
Fla Dem
(23,656 posts)NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)played a big role as well.
Poiuyt
(18,123 posts)That the FBI is against Trump is a bunch of crap.
NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)within the NY FBI. They basically blackmailed Comey into re-opening the investigation, and then had Chaffetz leak the re-opening to the media.
triron
(22,001 posts)Volaris
(10,270 posts)Knew it at the WHCDinner...yeah he was pissed at being made fun of, but the fix was ALREADY in, he ALREADY knew he was Putin's Sweet Little Suki, and that was when it dawned on him that this was going to be right up his hateful, vengful little alley.
He KNEW THEN. I'd bet my NEXT paycheck that McConnell knew then, too.k
DallasNE
(7,403 posts)McCabe just fired over one of those leaks Comey feared?
On the campaign trail Trump was pushing hard for this outcome putting extreme pressure on the FBI and The Leadership was too weak to withstand the pressure so they gave Trump what they wanted. The rest is history.
lame54
(35,287 posts)That's gotta sting
Egnever
(21,506 posts)Ghouliani and his New York cronies specifically played Comey with the help of the republican house.
unblock
(52,208 posts)mayyyybe, maybe somewhat begrudingly.
but willingly.
revealing things officially because someone else might leak it unofficially really makes no sense.
tell the would-be leakers to f*** off, tell them not to leak, tell them you'll have them prosecuted if appropriate, whatever.
the *last* thing you would do is violate at least *two* departmental policies to steal the thunder of would-be leakers.
the "he got played" angle just doesn't add up. these people are trained in how to handle discussions about classified information -- in the public sphere, you neither confirm nor deny. you just refuse to get into it. him revealing something he shouldn't in order to beat the leakers to the punch is like confirming or denying a public conjecture about classified information -- you just don't do it.
Egnever
(21,506 posts)October surprises are not new and pretty widely excepted as fair game if somewhat nefarious.
unblock
(52,208 posts)this dirty trick (abusing governmental/investigative/prosecutorial powers to smear a presidential candidate) is actually pretty tame compared to scuttling vietnam peace talks or making a deal with terrorists to make sure 52 americans would be held hostages *longer*.
again, though, that doesn't remotely make it right or acceptable.
Volaris
(10,270 posts)Should he have been smarter than that, more Professional?
Yes absolutley.
bigbrother05
(5,995 posts)Comey responded to avoid having the FBI appear complicit in tipping the election against Trump. That would have been used to poison any investigations into Russia/Trump after the election.
The same pressure was used on the WH, but they didn't have all the facts because of the FBI withholding info on how bad it was until after the election.
McConnell & Ryan are as guilty as anyone in this conspiracy.
malaise
(268,977 posts)and I added that history will absolve me - that was quick
BigmanPigman
(51,590 posts)I said the Moron would win from the minute he entered the race on the golden escalator. My friend's were sick of me saying so. When Comey appeared 10 days before the election everyone I had complained to for 18 months realized I was right. I (along with Bill Maher and Michael Moore) were not in good moods going into the election. We knew it would be bad but not quite this horrific though. No one could have predicted this daily nightmare.
malaise
(268,977 posts)She was terrified that it would happen
onit2day
(1,201 posts)BigmanPigman
(51,590 posts)The question will be, "How did they allow that to happen to the country?".
bigbrother05
(5,995 posts)Why would anyone think the GOP wouldn't do it again.
My fear is what happens after this pig is thrown out and a Dem gets us back on track.
The next GOP prez could very well be the antichrist given the trajectory they've followed.
BigmanPigman
(51,590 posts)and keep it. Also, get rid of Fux Ruse within a week of the Dem inauguration. Then we stand a chance.
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)askyagerz
(776 posts)But im convinced it was because of facebook and the hate campaign they used there. Those people's fears were played like a fiddle.
I honestly don't think the fbi reopening the investigation swayed many people at that point. The people who were going to vote for trump were going to anyway. So that just leaves the question did it keep potential Hillary voters home? I think the polling expectations did that more then anything. Most people thought she had it in the bag.
It was a perfect storm.
bearsfootball516
(6,377 posts)Hillary was leading by 5-6 points in most swings states, then after the announcement, she plummeted to 1-2.
askyagerz
(776 posts)Actual voters minds were setup by then. The main damage was done well before then in the swing states. Even if it did sway 1% she should have still been able to win. The propaganda campaign against her was very effective
Enoki33
(1,587 posts)lunamagica
(9,967 posts)Amaryllis
(9,524 posts)so many fronts between Russia and GOP attacks. I was predicting Hillary would lose when i read summer of 2016 that Russia had hacked the voter reg databases and that was before Comey.
diva77
(7,640 posts)The Election Was Stolen Heres How
Friday, November 11, 2016
Before a single vote was cast, the election was fixed by GOP and Trump operatives.
Starting in 2013 just as the Supreme Court gutted the Voting Rights Act a coterie of Trump operatives, under the direction of Kris Kobach, Kansas Secretary of State, created a system to purge 1.1 million Americans of color from the voter rolls of GOPcontrolled states.
The system, called Crosscheck, is detailed in my Rolling Stone report,
The GOPs Stealth War on Voters, 8/24/2016.
Crosscheck in action:
Trump victory margin in Michigan: 13,107
Michigan Crosscheck purge list: 449,922
Trump victory margin in Arizona: 85,257
Arizona Crosscheck purge list: 270,824
Trump victory margin in North Carolina: 177,008
North Carolina Crosscheck purge list: 589,393
On Tuesday, we saw Crosscheck elect a Republican Senate and as President, Donald Trump. The electoral putsch was aided by nine other methods of attacking the right to vote of Black, Latino and Asian-American voters, methods detailed in my book and film, including Caging, purging, blocking legitimate registrations, and wrongly shunting millions to provisional ballots that will never be counted.
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and McTurtle had prior knowledge, as demonstrated by his obstruction of Obama's SC nominee
Amaryllis
(9,524 posts)diva77
(7,640 posts)Their work is never finished.
onit2day
(1,201 posts)It lays it out so the theft can easily be identified. This PINO, Ugly American, leader of this political cult will go down in history as an ugly divisive stain on America where Don the Con slithered his way into the highest office of the land.
mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)we'll see that they made ... was targeting Bernie voters, trying to get them to stay home or vote Trump.
That's why they trumpeted the SHIT out of the DWS/DNC emails that suggested Bernie was treated unfairly. The Media, like the idiots they are, happily parroted that story quite a few times.
Basically CA figured out that Trump's 'ticket' to win was to get Bernie's people to stay home. I'm sure they also worked to firm up 'support' with all kinds of 'don't forget to VOTE, it's YOUR DUTY' and the like messaging on social media ... but ONLY for people they knew were voting for Trump.
People they calc'd were wanting Bernie I would BET were inundated 'Hillary is TOO EVIL and CORPORATE and ZOMG HER WS Speeches and ZOMG She CHEATED Bernie, you CAN'T vote for Her!' messages. That, and 'There's really not much diff between Hill and Trump so why even bother voting' messaging.
DallasNE
(7,403 posts)I have always wondered how Russia was able to so masterful!y target the right voters on a massive scale. It surprised me that they would have the necessary accessibility to pull it off. Some of us thought WikiLeaks had to somehow be involved in order to pull it off. Then along comes this data and suddenly the picture clears up.
mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)It may turn out the closest to actual collusion we get is the stolen docs from DNC and Podesta, carried out by actors that were probably sufficiently removed from Putin that 'colluding with Russia' remains 'tenuous'.
However, if it can shown that Trump campaign colluded with bad foreign actors, that's still pretty bad.
As is what CA engaged in, in general.
Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)hotrod0808
(323 posts)Comey will always be hated in my house for this. How can a supposedly experienced, intelligent person fall for this? He either wanted Trump in office, or hated Clinton so much that he wanted to keep the pressure on her during her term. Either way, he is a shitty individual, and deserves a long, miserable life.
quartz007
(1,216 posts)character, I think Burt Lancaster played that character.