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underpants

(182,988 posts)
Wed Mar 21, 2018, 01:16 PM Mar 2018

But but Obama did it too!

Talk radio

Obama congratulated Putin and told Medvedev to be patient until after the 2012 election. Open mic.

AND

played a sound bite of Obama campaign official Jim Messina "bragging" about their use of "data". This was extrapolated out to include social media. Well first that wasn't a foreign country doing it and second Messina was talking about their use of emails. They had running bets targeting specific demographics in specific areas, who had provided their email to the campaign, with the same text but different subject lines. The bets were based on whose subject line created the most donations. Michelle was the big generator and the DNC Chair at the time created a surprising amount of donations.

Apples and oranges but expect hear more of this.

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But but Obama did it too! (Original Post) underpants Mar 2018 OP
Trump and anyone who supports him are traitors, PERIOD Eliot Rosewater Mar 2018 #1
Whataboutery aided by deliberately obscured facts gratuitous Mar 2018 #2
Yep. underpants Mar 2018 #4
Was that the whole "flexibility" kerfuffle? Proud Liberal Dem Mar 2018 #9
Cheetolini needs to do other things Obama did, like heavily sanction Russia. marble falls Mar 2018 #3
Putin hadn't just interfered in our election in 2012 MiniMe Mar 2018 #5
No, Obama Didn't Employ the Same Strategies as Cambridge Analytica workinclasszero Mar 2018 #6
Thanks underpants Mar 2018 #7
Thank you workinclasszero Mar 2018 #8
Context-as always- is lost on Repubs and right-wingers Proud Liberal Dem Mar 2018 #10

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
2. Whataboutery aided by deliberately obscured facts
Wed Mar 21, 2018, 01:22 PM
Mar 2018

SOP for the GOP. They know their supporters will be gulled by a simple "Obama used data, too!" without checking too deeply into the facts behind the statement. As if no campaign ever used "data" to tailor its message before, and how the Trump collusion with CA and the Russians differs in every metric from previous campaigns.

underpants

(182,988 posts)
4. Yep.
Wed Mar 21, 2018, 01:31 PM
Mar 2018

Was typing that before going to a meeting (that I'm in right now).

BTW I don't know if Obama actually congratulated Putin - the open mic thing I remember and the RW media flipped out like he had on a tan suit or ordered that fancy mustard.

MiniMe

(21,722 posts)
5. Putin hadn't just interfered in our election in 2012
Wed Mar 21, 2018, 01:37 PM
Mar 2018

And he hadn't just killed a former agent with illegal nerve agent in 2012.

Next

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
8. Thank you
Wed Mar 21, 2018, 02:06 PM
Mar 2018

I knew you were just putting out what the fascist republican talking point is but it pained me to see it.

How much more destruction can America take till the blue wave can stop these nazi bastards?

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