I will never get over how many Americans were tricked into hating

[Eliot Rosewater]

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I like her.

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/09/12/hillary-clinton-book-best-passages-and-quotes-242608

“I can’t know what was in Comey’s head. I don’t know if he had anything against me personally, or if he thought I was going to win the election and worried that if he didn’t speak out he’d later be attacked by Republicans or his own agents. What I do know, though, is that when you’re the head of an agency as important as the FBI, you have to care a lot more about how things really are than how they look, and you have to be willing to take the heat that goes along with the big job.”

I wish we could dedicate more space to her here, especially her quotes.

[hatrack]

1. No one ever got conned who didn't want to be conned . . .

They needed somebody to hate.

"Look! A really smart, accomplished and ambitious woman who won't even try to pretend to be Betty Crocker!!!!"

"Yeah, that'll work!!! That'll do nicely!!!"

[Eliot Rosewater]

2. Ahh yes

Dont doubt lots of folk hate a strong woman.

LOTS

[Johonny]

24. My thinking

They identified people looking for reasons to fill in for their hatred. They didn't create the hate out of thin air.

[Hortensis]

32. Yes. That's just the kind of weakness they're data mining

for after all. Apparently especially negative thinking, resentments, bigotries, victim complexes, ideological bents such as blaming "corporatist" thises and thats for everything, hostility toward powerful women, all clues to emotional and intellectual weaknesses that can be harnessed and directed.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

75. Not true. There are many in the wobbly middle. Wishy-washy low-info voters. . . . nt

[hlthe2b]

3. well, I don't think CA & Russian trolls could have been as successful as they were at

depressing Dem support and inciting RW/independent/a few Bernie Sanders supporter's hatred unless there was something in their attitudes and perceptions already primed to believe it.

What that might be for each group might be up for debate, but it didn't come out of the blue and as such is a really shitty sign for our society.

[Hamlette]

68. on 30 years of beating up on both Clintons.

It is crazy now but it was also crazy during the Clintons. They were always under investigation by a GOP congress. It was unrelenting and if you look at the articles on impeachment, there were no articles that Trump has not broken 10 times over (or 20). Telling people not to talk (obstruction of justice), lying about having sex, etc. It's when Move On started. Move the fuck on from Clinton's flipping affair!!!!!

The GOP has gone against both Clintons for 30 years, tearing them down at every moment. It sunk in too deep.

[Hortensis]

74. That old repeat a lie often enough and people believe

it thing is true. Even in those who know something is a lie, the brain figures it's important and stores it in the supply of information new input is checked against.

Insidious. This huge campaign of lies isn't confined to Republicans. They have get lies that work best on them, and we're targeted with lies that we're more vulnerable to.

[Aristus]

4. That's a lovely pic of her.

I still can't quite believe how badly our country was cheated in sElection 2016. Without hyperbole, this is a calamity on the scale of the Civil War or the Spanish flu.

We will be decades recovering from this.

[Lucinda]

29. It's a two sided disaster...We lost (or hopefully just delayed) a better future for everyone we love

and we will have to repair all the damage done, here and world wide, just to get back to square one.

[Hermit-The-Prog]

43. calamitous loss

Even if you just looked at it with cold, calculating logic, it's an incredible loss to the world. The losses just keep mounting, too.

[barbtries]

5. agree.

she gets the worst most undeserved rap of anyone i can think of except maybe President Obama.

[Tatiana]

6. Of course Comey had something personal against her!

Specifically, her husband dating back to Ken Starr's witch hunt. This clouded his judgment. He's no hero.

[Eliot Rosewater]

20. The new book about this,

The Unmaking of the President 2016: How FBI Director James Comey Cost Hillary Clinton the Presidency

Lanny Davis


Yes, Comey is to blame.

[DFW]

64. While I do sign on to the premise

Lanny Davis is a first-class ass, and I wish it was ANYBODY else's name on the book but his.

[Girard442]

7. Nobody was tricked. Haters gonna hate.

[BoneyardDem]

11. there is a reason ads and propganda studies have been shown to work well in forming opinions.

billions are spent in changing peoples minds and tricking them into believing things that are not quite right...billions.

Yes, many were tricked.

[bettyellen]

18. Oh I know a few who took the easy way out and believed the news presented to them. Ignorance won.

They believed what they read.

[Girard442]

63. They believed because they wanted to.

How many people would believe it if Facebook told them their favorite candy bar was 25% beetle grubs?

[bettyellen]

67. They wanted to believe that gov is corrupt, that the status quo is horrible....

And that you could cure it all with a one man revolution. There was a lot of “news” reinforcing all those ideas.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

76. Wrong. Many wobbly middle voters did not hate or become haters. Stayed home or voted on low info. nt

[Me.]

77. Yes They Are

Aren't they?

[NurseJackie]

8. "I wish we could dedicate more space to her here, especially her quotes." We could. But we daren't.

I wish we could dedicate more space to her here, especially her quotes.

We could. But we daren't. Many people on the internet can't handle the truth and get aggressive when it's presented, even in the most non-accusatory and non-threatening way. The truth is the truth. It won't change no matter how many internet bullies try to shut it down. I'm talking about the Facebook, the Twitter, anywhere actually... but some places more noticeable that others (I guess that makes sense.)

[leftstreet]

12. What 'truth?'

That she should have won? That she was the most qualified POTUS candidate we've seen, or probably will see, ever? That the righwing hate machinery had been denigrating her and lying about her for decades?

I don't think people are denying that.

Maybe wait and dedicate more space to her if she chooses to run again

[NurseJackie]

14. Those are obviously truthful and accurate things...

... but I actually had something else in mind. She's offered some insightful and reflective comments that put things into perspective and which shine a bright light on often overlooked (or glossed-over) reality.

That the righwing hate machinery had been denigrating her and lying about her for decades?

They, among others, have been doing that. It was surprising (and disappointing) for me to witness which ones picked up that mantle and proceeded to fan the flames of hatred and resentment with a furor and defiance that even managed to exceed the intensity of the original "hate machinery". Even now it continues, though the motivation is unclear to me. Bitterness? Resentment? Jealousy? (Who knows?)

But, I think as it applies to my earlier comments, there is a certain level of situational awareness and realistic perception that many on the internet/s lack, and when confronted with it in others (particularly by those who have an intimate knowledge of such things and can speak/wrote with authority) they take deep offense and become quite aggressive in their responses and how they handle things that challenge their worldview.

I don't think people are denying that.

True. Nobody is denying the things you specifically mentioned. (Fortunately.)

[Eliot Rosewater]

21. Yep. the truth about what happened, is so darn tough to look at, we cant even talk about it

[peggysue2]

9. We shouldn't forget that . . .

Hillary Clinton as a strong, professional woman was controversial from the get-go. Republicans have always despised her frankness--the vast right-wing conspiracy shoutout--and her refusal to back down or wither under on-going attacks. Her Benghazi hearing performance is a case in point. The GOP expected to destroy her during that 11-hour interrogation. Instead, she made them look like utter fools.

But make no mistake, after leaving the State Department with nearly a 70% approval rating, the Republicans spent the next 4 years relentlessly attacking, smearing, casting doubt. It was deliberate, intense; Kevin McCarthy let the cat out of the bag. And it chipped away at her reputation and professional credibility.

So yes, a good number of voters were primed before Cambridge Analytica and the Bannon Breitbarts were fully into gear and battle formation, before the Russians decided the Trumpster was Their Guy and poisoning American minds was the way to go, and before Comey decided the 2016 election was secondary to bringing down a globalized crime network (it's the only way his statement about not having regrets makes sense).

Consequently, we're living with the abomination named Trump who during the course of the campaign managed (with a little help from his foreign benefactors) to project all his own faults and crimes onto a woman who had spent her entire life trying to improve the lives of others, women and children in particular.

A pity that. Such a lost opportunity.

[Hermit-The-Prog]

46. thank you

[northoftheborder]

52. Thank you for these words of historic truth. Makes me cry, though.

[maddiemom]

80. Thank You!

I couldn't agree more.

[peggysue2]

82. You're all welcome . . .

because I weep at little every time I think of the mess we're in and what we lost. Not just an election but a real opportunity to move forward, instead of sliding down this sinkhole.

[Initech]

10. 40 years of power hungry dipshits preaching hate on AM radio 24/7 convinced them.

Which then morphed into a 24/7 news network preaching hate. Which then morphed into Cambridge Analytica, Breitbart, and Infowars. Hate begats hate begats hate.

[Awsi Dooger]

13. My favorite Democratic nominee

I'll never get over it. A woman like that as president would have done so much and meant so much.

Comey is a comparative simpleton by standards of that office. I'm convinced that was the answer and nothing more. He's worried Trump will lie so he rushes back to his car to take notes. He testified under oath that the email investigation was finished, and then he's worried maybe it's not finished so he thinks he has to say something. A more stout and less paranoid director would not be hiding behind a curtain, and would have understood the long term big picture protocol the previous October.

[Snackshack]

15. Very true.

The right has done a very effective job at vilifying her over the last two decades.

I have always admired her. Her list of accomplishments in service to this country is very distinguished and admirable. She would have been an excellent President of The United States.

[Blecht]

16. I like her, too,

with about as few reservations as I could possibly have for a successful politician.

[Eliot Rosewater]

27. I like how you say that, because TODAY millions of new voters have been sold a LIE

that they must ONLY vote for someone who is PERFECTLY ALIGNED with their philosophy.

Which, by the way, will ASSURE more GOP victories.

[lunamagica]

17. I will never get over it. Today, almost a year and a half after the election

was stolen, it still hurts the same.

For all sad words of tongue and pen, The saddest are these, 'It might have been'. ~John Greenleaf Whittier

[Stinky The Clown]

19. Rec!

Lots of them right here in River City :coughberniebroscough:

[Eliot Rosewater]

25. Yikes, yee have big ones

[Lucinda]

22. She worked for this country FOR FREE for almost 20 years before serving in the Senate and as SOS

and was lied about and nitpicked for every day of it.

[Eliot Rosewater]

23. But, but, but she wouldnt bake COOKIES

[Lucinda]

30. Yep. Stone the witch!

[ehrnst]

26. We were never tricked.

Those who supported here were the only ones, apparently.

[Eliot Rosewater]

28. If they werent tricked then they were predisposed to believe total bullshit and be

misogynists, women included.

[ehrnst]

39. They were fertile soil....

Confirmation bias is very strong.

[pandr32]

31. I like her, too

She is one of America's very best.

[Eliot Rosewater]

85. And knows more about working our system to benefit us than any 5 people at any level

anywhere in politics.

Political genius.

[KT2000]

33. my sister asked her female relatives

why they hated her. They could not come up with an answer. Of course hating Hillary and loving tRump was all there was to it for them and their husbands. My nephew who was once a leader and challenged everything has turned into a follower. I cannot figure out how that happened because he is the last person I would have thought was susceptible to brainwashing.

[Eliot Rosewater]

35. Sounds typical. Thanks for responding.

[FakeNoose]

65. Rush Limbaugh started it all

... probably 25 years ago. I think I hate him MORE than any of the Trumpers hate Hillary.

[Ferrets are Cool]

34. Weak men hate strong women...weak women follow those men.

Simple as that...IMO.

[Eliot Rosewater]

36. And the same weak men hate POC because they fear they cant compete with them

[Ferrets are Cool]

37. OMG NOOOOOOOOOO!!

They hate POC because take all the jobs that they would not ordinarily want.

[TheFrenchRazor]

38. kicking...

[CanonRay]

40. Nicest pic I've ever seen of her

[eleny]

45. I've never seen this photo before. No wonder Bill was speechless when she first spoke to him

He said she walked over to him in the library and introduced herself and he just about couldn't reply. If that's a true story it's pretty funny and cute besides.

[mcar]

41. History will be kind to her

And unkind to her haters.

[wishstar]

42. She has been a courageous truth teller all along warning against vast rightwing conspiracy

Our loss and she should not be blamed for losing as she won the popular vote despite Comey and Facebook and Russians and the unprecedented propaganda onslaught and unfair treatment by the media.

[MFM008]

44. I wasnt

There is nothing anyone could offer me
That would habe changed my mind.

[sheshe2]

47. Love that picture of Hillary.

I miss her.

[Eliot Rosewater]

48. I had not seen it in a while or ever maybe, no wonder Bill noticed her.

Wow!

I'm a str8t male , by the way

I mean yes there is the whole personality thing, what they had in common, but str8t men dont see that at first, at all.

[sheshe2]

49. Ha!

[blake2012]

50. when you see what high marks and approval Hillary had as she exited the Secretary of State role to

how Cambridge Analytica and the Trump corruption machine led by Bannon and others destroyed her approval and reputation with hacked emails out of her campaign, hacked emails out of DNC, Russian trolls and bots whipping Bernie backers and others into a state of "anybody but Hillary"....it is a crime. Treason and criminal.

[Eliot Rosewater]

51. Yep. All of that happened.

[StevieM]

71. The media has written Hillary's high poll numbers as Secretary of State out of the history books.

It is really amazing.

[lunasun]

78. Off the fellowship

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/clintons-name-vanishes-from-state-department-fellowship/2018/03/19/ebe0c61c-2938-11e8-bc72-077aa4dab9ef_story.html

[JI7]

53. If Robert Mueller had still been FBI director none of this would have happened

[Eliot Rosewater]

54. Absolutely

[brer cat]

55. Many weren't "tricked" at all.

They eagerly bought into every lie and flagrant misrepresentation, and spread it as far as they could. Some are misogynistic and wouldn't have given any woman consideration, some are willing to demonize anyone who isn't their very own special chosen one, some women hate her because they suffer by comparison to her accomplishments and think they can build themselves up by tearing her down, some hate Bill and treat her as nothing more than an appendage of him, some hate all Democrats and have never looked at her as an individual.

And you know what? Some of them are still doing it because hating Hillary satisfies some visceral need to demean and destroy rather than appreciate, celebrate, and lift up. They probably deserve our pity, but given the consequences, I simply can't give it.

[Niagara]

56. This is a beautiful photo of Hillary! Thanks for posting it. n/t

[Gothmog]

57. K&R

[Cha]

58. They LIED their Damn HEADS OFF and

constantly Pounded it with their Hatemongering!

Thank you for this, Eliot!

[oasis]

59. ImWithHer for the rest of my days on this planet.

[SunSeeker]

60. K & R

[IronLionZion]

61. Some asshole campaigned on Make America Hate Again

it worked

[Skittles]

62. plenty of DUers too

fucking DISGUSTING

[betsuni]

70. And the gaslighting ("Where? I didn't see any of that")

is a continuation of the fucking disgusting.

[Skittles]

73. oh don't even get me started

they helped to put Trump into office; UGH

[DFW]

66. I didn't always support her candidacy, but I ALWAYS liked her

From better times....
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[betsuni]

69. Why were some infected and others immune -- it's fascinating.

I guess the next sort of end-of-the-world Hollywood movies should, instead of meteors heading straight for Earth or alien invasions or deadly virus outbreaks, be about how propaganda experts brainwash us until we're all like kittens chasing pieces of yarn.

[ooky]

72. The stories were so ridiculous you had to

be stupid first before being able to believe any of it.

[Scalded Nun]

79. The hate was already there

The GOP just found an easy way to bring it out in the open.

[NewJeffCT]

81. I think Comey was blackmailed into re-opening the investigation

Giuliani and a few others (The Trumplandia section of the FBI in NYC) basically threatened Comey that he needed to look into the emails again because there was all kinds of outrageous shit on Weiner's laptop. If he did not, Giuliani was going to have a big press conference to be broadcast live on Fox News (and of course, the other networks would then pick it up as well) and go through all the outrageous Hillary incriminating crap that Weiner had on his laptop.

Of course, Giuliani had jack shit, but Comey's choices were to either (1) re-open the email investigation and quickly close it or else (2) have Rudy blow things up on the nightly news.

He chose option one and then Jason Chaffetz illegally leaked the Comey letter to the networks and the NY Times and it tanked her chances anyways.

[Eliot Rosewater]

83. Makes you want to slap Jason

[LakeArenal]

84. Another big lie....

That Repugs have the family values.

For Hillary No divorce, beautiful successful family, Lovely daughter. Funny, Smart..

It is true that Hillary Clinton was the most qualified person ever to run for President.

[Eliot Rosewater]

86. Yes, they show no respect, none, for someone with true values.

For instance, if Hillary had EVER cheated on Bill, we would hear about it everyday till the end of time.

[Nitram]

87. I've been watching it happen for 20 years now.

[Eliot Rosewater]

88. Me too. Remarkable how easy it is to believe stuff, certain people, if that stuff is about

a woman or black person.

[heaven05]

89. excellent smackdown

Of frenimies, Socialist Independents and truth about Stein. Her sitting at that table with Putin, telling.