Time to end open primaries. The National Review instructed conservatives to vote for a Democrat.

[NCTraveler]

Enough is at stake for pro-life conservatives that those living in Illinois’s third district should consider voting in the Democratic primaries instead, and cast a vote for Lipinski.

https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/03/jeanne-ives-illinois-governor-endorsement-rauner-forfeited-conservative-support/

I don't mind endorsements from Democrats in a primary. I don't mind Democrats not endorsing in a primary. I do mind Republicans voting in our primary.

[samnsara]

1. they get one vote..how many are actually going to waste it this way?

[MineralMan]

2. There was no race on the Republican side.

Just one name. So, they could vote on the Democratic side without changing anything. It was a perfect setup.

[mopinko]

17. wrong.

there was a hot race for gov on their side. i doubt many wanted to pass that up to take a dem ballot.

[MineralMan]

18. I meant no race for that House seat.

[mopinko]

20. yeah, but you dont get to pick one race.

you get one full ballot or the other.

[MineralMan]

22. OK. I wasn't sure how IL handled that.

Same in Minnesota. You can choose either ballot in primaries. We don't register by party here.

That changes my thinking on that House race, then.

Lipinski is the incumbent. It would have been hard to win that primary. I don't know anything about his opponent, really.

[mopinko]

24. he has hard core support, but she came damn close.

sadly the nazi on the thug ballot got 20k votes, unopposed.

[Mariana]

8. Republican Christians who are intent on oppressing women

will certainly vote to do so in the most effective way whenever possible. They would not consider that to be a wasted vote.

[Arkansas Granny]

3. I tend to agree with you on this. Democrats should choose the Democratic candidate, not the

opposing party. I also feel that Americans should elect the POTUS, not Russians or other foreign actors.

[MineralMan]

4. I Absolutely Agree!

[LexVegas]

5. Yes. Democrats only in Democratic primaries. nt

[Sherman A1]

6. I don't really see this as much of an issue

there will be a few here and there, but it will not cause much upheaval.

[NCTraveler]

13. Closing them shouldn't be an issue. +1. nt.

[Sherman A1]

30. Probably not

But again, I don’t see it as a big concern.

[AJT]

7. That's how ex-sherrif Clark got elected as a democrat in Milwaukee county.

[mercuryblues]

9. No shit

The republicans had a Nazi running unopposed in their primary, they knew he was going to win. Why not try to create chaos in the Democratic primary.

[The Polack MSgt]

10. Even with Republicans pushing to vote for Lipinski in IL 3...

More than 20K voted for an actual no doubt about it Nazi.

Took time out of a workday, went to the polls and filled in the circle for a fucking NAZI. It doesn't get clearer than that...

I fuckin' hate Illinois Nazis.

[alarimer]

11. Why would they give up the ability to vote in the R primary for governor and other offices?

I mean, this only makes sense if they were willing to give up a choice in other offices. Maybe it's true and maybe enough did, coupled with generally low turnout.

I have no doubt that Lipinski is perfectly acceptable to them, since he is a Republican in all but name. It's only the team sports aspects of politics that get him elected as a Democrat, despite his toxic positions that most people in that district do not actually have. And the idea of supporting the incumbent at all costs (this is the only good argument for term limits- that it's sometimes the only way to get rid of horrific representatives like this one) is one that needs to die in a fire. The DCCC and others need to stop putting their thumbs of the fucking scale.

But next time, a better organized and better funded candidate should be able to knock him off, regardless of primaries. Also the GOP could have run other candidates. But it must have been by design that they didn't, because, again, Lipinski is, essentially a Republican.

[mopinko]

19. the gov races was way too hot for many to take a pass on.

no way they didnt have an opinion between rauner and drumph in a skirt. and she damn near won.

newman came damn close, and had the open support of a lot of the party.

[alarimer]

35. I think Lipinski's days are numbered anyway.

If Newman doesn't run next time, surely someone else will.

Honestly, I'm not sure how I would vote in this election, if I lived there. The other guy is an actual Nazi. It makes me ill either way.

[tblue37]

12. Rush Limbaugh used to encourage this. He called it "Operation Chaos." nt

[NewJeffCT]

14. I've been saying this for a while now

Democrats should choose Democratic candidates.

[dembotoz]

15. oh hell no

to vote for whomever you want is kinda important...
kinda basic

[kcr]

36. That's what the general election is for

Primaries are for parties to pick their candidate. I more than kinda like voting for who I want, which is why I more than kinda like closed primaries.

[dembotoz]

38. Too many smoke filled rooms

A little transparency is a good thing

[crazycatlady]

16. this varies by state

But states without partisan voter registration typically have open primaries.

The only closed off ones are runoffs, where (correct me if I'm wrong), you can only vote in the runoff if you voted in that party's primary.


ETA this goes both ways. I have a lot of Democratic friend who have voted in GOP primaries with the intent of ratfucking.

[yallerdawg]

23. I resemble that remark.

When R's outnumber you 2 to 1 (Alabama), ratfuckin' in the primaries becomes a viable political position.

A number of Democrats I know crossed over in the Republican primaries to enable the General Election candidacies of recently resigned "Luv Guv" Bentley and the "wonderful R candidate Judge Roy Moore."

Worked out rather well, don't you think?

[crazycatlady]

25. Thanks for your Roy Moore vote

[yallerdawg]

27. "...in the primary!"

Senator Doug Jones all the way!

It would have been much harder to beat a sitting Senator Luther Strange - or even Rep. Mo Brooks - both easy for R's to vote for.

But Roy Moore has always had baggage even before his molester issues came up. This is the one we wanted to go up against, the "best worst" R we could run against!

[crazycatlady]

29. oh absolutely

Nothing wrong with ratfucking a GOP primary.

[kcr]

37. Having spent time in a red state I totally get this

But you have to be careful. I remember rooting for Trump to win the GOP primary. Yeah....

[mopinko]

21. i doubt more than a handful did this. the gov race was HOTLY contested.

the wingnuts had a chance to vote for drumph in a skirt. she damn near won.
no way there was any mass migration here. no way.

[Freethinker65]

26. Single issue rabid voters have this choice with or without National Review telling them what to do

Right to life Republican screeching voters in Lipinski's destrict chose to vote for reliable anti choice Dan instead of reliable anti choice wacko Ives(R) for governor. They got to choose one D or R ballot. It happens. The mailings I got one district over for Ives were hideous.

[redgreenandblue]

28. Complain when people call the system "rigged", then call for changing the rules to keep people from

voting for certain candidates.

[Elwood P Dowd]

31. Remember back in 2008 when the repukes were telling their trained monkey voters

to vote for Obama vs Hillary in some of the primaries? Obama would be easy pickings according to some of them. He would get slaughtered in November against the mighty white machine.

[Billy Jingo]

32. It would further entrence the duopoly

... and make governing this nation all that more difficult due to the need for candidates to appeal to the most extreme in their own party as opposed to the larger electorate.

[lunasun]

33. No . I live in Illinois and I want open primaries. Lipinski s father held this same seat for years

If they were prolife then they wanted Rauner out and would have voted in the R primary for Ives .

Ives ran commercials that said Rauner paid for the abortion of women in pink pussy hats .
Abortion was an issue on the republican ballot and you can't pull both
. I can't imagine many of them embarrassing them selves to have to declare a dem at the polling place either . They are proud but few

Dem
Lipinski voters are many regardless of Rs

No -keep open primaries in Illinois

[Voltaire2]

34. My state has open primaries and we love them.

But open only means that if you are unregistered you can choose to register for a party at the poll and vote in that primary.

So only independent unenrolled voters can choose between a Republican or Democratic ballot.

Candidates know they need to motivate independent voters to win the primary, it results in stronger candidates in the general election.

Enrolled voters don’t get to cross party lines to try to screw up the other party’s results. As most of the partisans are enrolled, there really isn’t a problem with attempts to screw the results.