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Progressive2020

(713 posts)
Fri Mar 23, 2018, 12:22 AM Mar 2018

Trump Is An Incompetent Manager

With regards to the firing of McMaster and the nomination of Bolton-

The amount of personnel "churn" in this White House is phenomenal. Trump is dangerously incompetent. Good managers hire good people in the first place. Constantly changing staff is a sign of incompetence and instability. Trump runs the White House like a game of whack-a-mole.

The National Government is being run more like a Banana Republic than a Great Democracy. Trump gives powerful positions to unqualified relatives (Kushner) and is constantly changing staff based upon personality, not qualifications and professionalism.

Trump runs his "administration" like a bad episode of his old reality show. "Don The Con" did not make his fortune by being a brilliant Manager and skilled Entrepreneur. He made his fortune by cheating others and running scams and schemes perpetually funded by debt and ripping off others.

It would be funny if it were not so dangerous. Instead of competent Statesmen, we have Right Wing War Mongers and Conspiracy Theorists in key positions in the White House. The inmates are taking over the asylum, with people so Far Right that they are closer to being Fascists than Republicans.

Nationalism tied to Incompetence is a dangerous mix, and now it is in control of the American Superpower. I fear with Bolton coming in to enable Trump's worst thinking, we are headed to War in a way that will be devastating for us and the entire world.

Trump is incompetent and dangerous. He should be removed for his incompetence, but there is no one positioned in the White House to do it under the 25th Amendment. The sane adults are being removed from the Administration. Chief of Staff John Kelley is rumored to be next. I think that once he is gone, the last brake will be removed from what might be a runaway train.

Under the 25th Amendment, Congress may lawfully create a body that can remove the President in conjunction with the Vice President, if the President can not discharge his duties. Pence is not likely to ever do something like this, and Cabinet Members like Kelly that might be able to do this are being removed from the Administration.

We need to retake the House and push for Impeachment or removal of the President on the grounds of Incompetence under the 25th Amendment.

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Trump Is An Incompetent Manager (Original Post) Progressive2020 Mar 2018 OP
Smoke 'em if you got 'em. We ain't making it till November. nt poboy2 Mar 2018 #1
Trump could bankrupt a local Walmart. sarcasmo Mar 2018 #2
The Dangers Of Trump's Incompetence Progressive2020 Mar 2018 #3
A small editing suggestion - 3 words will do. 3catwoman3 Mar 2018 #4
That's because he doesn't "manage" anything... Wounded Bear Mar 2018 #5
Good post PJMcK Mar 2018 #6
Good Point Progressive2020 Mar 2018 #10
Agree! UCmeNdc Mar 2018 #7
He has never managed, and is incapable of doing so. Orsino Mar 2018 #8
Water is also wet Gothmog Mar 2018 #9

Progressive2020

(713 posts)
3. The Dangers Of Trump's Incompetence
Fri Mar 23, 2018, 12:42 AM
Mar 2018

We are in Grave Danger. It is clear that Trump does not want or even understand Democracy. He wants a Cult Of Personality with Himself at the Center, and he is surrounding himself with extremists and incompetents. We have a dangerous Narcissist in the White Hose, akin to a Hitler or Mussolini.

Trump admires Authoritarians like Putin, and would like to be "President for Life". He must be stopped, either by Impeachment, removal via the 25th Amendment, or voted out by 2020. If Mueller is able to bring Criminal Charges, that might be enough to motivate an Impeachment vote in the Congress, but to do that we need a Blue Wave in November 2018.

[edits for readability]

Wounded Bear

(58,622 posts)
5. That's because he doesn't "manage" anything...
Fri Mar 23, 2018, 12:46 AM
Mar 2018

he just wants to bark orders and expects everybody to toe the line, obey, and bow to his magnificence.

Which is why he can't find any decent, competent people to work for him.

Progressive2020

(713 posts)
10. Good Point
Fri Mar 23, 2018, 01:32 PM
Mar 2018

That is a good point. Even though Kelly is not a cabinet member, he is a linchpin of more sane and orderly administration, and might be one of the view in the White House who might facilitate Trump's removal under the 25th Amendment.

If you go to the Wikipedia entry on the 25th Amendment, you will see that it does not necessarily have to be the Cabinet along with the Vice-President to remove the President. It can be the VP and a lawful body established by Congress. It has never been done before, but Congress could establish a Commission of some sort to remove the President due to incapacity.

I think it is highly unlikely to happen, though, and if it did it might set a dangerous precedent where Congress has the power to remove Presidents for political reasons rather than actual incapacity of the President.

Our best hope is to win the Congress back in November and Impeach Trump. Otherwise, we should just continue to oppose and investigate Trump to the point where he is crippled until we can vote him out in 2020.

UCmeNdc

(9,600 posts)
7. Agree!
Fri Mar 23, 2018, 06:58 AM
Mar 2018

Trump is incompetent and should be removed from office for his inability to do the job requirements.

Mitch McConnell and Paul Ryan? I cannot hear you.

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