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SpankMe

(2,972 posts)
Mon Mar 26, 2018, 10:08 AM Mar 2018

The "death throes of democracy"

I work with an office full of severe right wing adherents who rant every single morning about the state of things. They are devout Trump supporters and conspiracy theorists.

This morning's rant was about an article one of them read about how the Democrats are recruiting ex-military and ex-intelligence people to run for public office in order to con votes out of conservatives and win against Republicans in nominally Republican districts. They say that the deep state is covertly feeding these candidates to the Democrats to run for public office.

When these deep state plants get into office, they'll impeach Trump and implement an impenetrable fortress of an even deeper state and end democracy as we know it in America. They were lamenting the death throes of democracy.

/They were serious.
//All but one are extreme second amendment gun nuts.
///This is a government office.
////We're an agency of the DoD!!
/////No fucking kidding!!!!!

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Clarity2

(1,009 posts)
2. Are these long time employees
Mon Mar 26, 2018, 10:38 AM
Mar 2018

or recent hirees post trump? People in positions of power or lower on the ladder? I just find this very worrisome when govt workers are buying into the deep state conspiracy...especially an agency of the DoD.

SpankMe

(2,972 posts)
12. These are long time career people.
Mon Mar 26, 2018, 02:53 PM
Mar 2018

Only two have served in the military - and those two are the more moderate ones who roll their eyes when the other go off!

treestar

(82,383 posts)
3. LOL.
Mon Mar 26, 2018, 10:40 AM
Mar 2018

That Democrats cannot win votes without going to all that trouble seems to make them feel a bit better?

rzemanfl

(29,581 posts)
4. I represent a limited liability company affiliated with another LLC that is loosely connected
Mon Mar 26, 2018, 10:40 AM
Mar 2018

to a person of some prominence, at least in his own mind. My LLC wishes to purchase your username. Please get in touch via your attorney.

BumRushDaShow

(129,875 posts)
7. "how the Democrats are recruiting ex-military"
Mon Mar 26, 2018, 10:46 AM
Mar 2018

Yet the war-monger party has a dearth of vets themselves. One wonders why?

haele

(12,688 posts)
8. Alex Jones and Faux News watchers.
Mon Mar 26, 2018, 11:00 AM
Mar 2018

Not going to ask you where you are, but there are a few here here also - and some in rather high up in the departmental hierarchy.
That keep switching the lunch room TV to "Fox" because they feel more comfortable with that channel - even though they're claiming to do so to get a "more well-rounded representation of the News" - so much so that it's pretty much now always switched to some sports event or the Weather Channel.

However, I have noticed that since on the campus the election, while there are still a dozen or so election stickers from various Democratic candidates on cars (including a John Kelly that's been around since 2004), most of the anti-Obama/Clinton (i.e., Bengazi and Obamacare) stickers are gone and I've only seen two Trump/Pence and one Romney sticker.
Most of the Trumpteers are keeping their political heads down - or at least off their cars.

If Trumpeteers and other Conservatives afraid of the "Deep State" when most of the power structure - the department and branch heads - in the current Federal Bureaucracy began their rise during the Bush/Cheney years, then they're cognizant on some level or of their own moral and effective inadequacies - that the substance of "their side" is so flimsy and childishly simplistic that they have to lie, cheat, and steal to be able score any political points.

Haele

CrispyQ

(36,552 posts)
9. They're probably reacting to this article, which has been re-posted on several sites.
Mon Mar 26, 2018, 11:00 AM
Mar 2018
The CIA Democrats: Part one
Introduction
By Patrick Martin
7 March 2018

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2018/03/07/dems-m07.html


snip...

An extraordinary number of former intelligence and military operatives from the CIA, Pentagon, National Security Council and State Department are seeking nomination as Democratic candidates for Congress in the 2018 midterm elections. The potential influx of military-intelligence personnel into the legislature has no precedent in US political history.

If the Democrats capture a majority in the House of Representatives on November 6, as widely predicted, candidates drawn from the military-intelligence apparatus will comprise as many as half of the new Democratic members of Congress. They will hold the balance of power in the lower chamber of Congress.

Both push and pull are at work here. Democratic Party leaders are actively recruiting candidates with a military or intelligence background for competitive seats where there is the best chance of ousting an incumbent Republican or filling a vacancy, frequently clearing the field for a favored “star” recruit.


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