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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsAnyone else feel the Stormy Daniels thing is a distraction from what really matters?...
Trump openly ran as a misogynist, "pussy grabbing", loud mouthed, bigot. He got elected because of it as much as anything. He's a despicable human being and we all know this. The fact that he cheated on his wife with a porn star may add to his sliminess but is it what will bring him down? If so, hay I'm all for pursuing this line but being a sleaze ball, infidelity, even paying someone to remain quiet are not illegal acts and aren't going to get him impeached. And that should be the goal. Otherwise all of this to me seems like flashy tabloid headlines. Bill Clinton cheated as well while in office and many democrats supported him still, granted he wasn't nearly as terrible. I'm not saying the act was at all right but we are talking about something that falls along lines of morally wrong but legal. I don't think that's the direction we want to be pursuing Trump unless we believe strongly that there is something highly illegal there. I think we need to keep focused on obstruction of justice, money laundering etc.
Eliot Rosewater
(31,121 posts)budkin
(6,716 posts)Girard442
(6,085 posts)Trump won't go down if he has enough popular support and it will be necessary to chip away at every facet of that support. People who want to bomb the shit out everything or those who want to purge the country of immigrants won't care, but some of those who pretend he's restoring morality will get peeled away by this.
Sophia4
(3,515 posts)It is just one piece in the puzzle, but it is important especially if it involves a large donation to Trump's campaign that may violate campaign finance laws
magicarpet
(14,173 posts)Reprehensible conduct and behavior means blackmail and kompromat.
Reprehensible - why do you say that ?
* Reprehensible conduct and behavior by someone who currently resides in our White House.
* Reprehensible enough that he wants to keep it a secret.
* Reprehensible enough that he is willing to have his goons threaten any one who would reveal this conduct and behavior.
* Reprehensible enough that he is willing to pay out large sums of money to buy someone's silence.
* Reprehensible enough that he lies to the public that the sexual affair ever happened because if the truth and reality came out it could prove very awkward and damaging.
* Reprehensible enough that a super secret NDA was engineered to cover any foot prints that would reveal this conduct or behavior.
* Reprehensible enough that the perpetrator (tRdump) has attempted to block the CBC - 60 Minute segment from broadcasting the Stormy details.
* Reprehensible enough that agents of tRdump are suing Stormy for $20 million for revealing details of an affair tRdump says never happened.
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If nothing else the above proves the man currently occupying the White House is highly susceptible to being blackmailed.
That is a dangerous place for the national security of this country.
This reprehensible conduct and behavior is likely the same type of highly embarrassing kompromat Russia/Putin holds over and is using against tRdump while forcing him to act in Russia's best interests rather than the best interests of the United States of America.
This tRdump/Stormy tryst episode, the Playboy Bunny tryst episode, and the other multiple trysts of matrimonial infidelities, sexual harassment, and other inappropriate sexual behaviors are not nothing burgers. They could well be the key the why, the how, the where of the kompromat tRdump gave to Putin on a silver platter and how Putin uses this insane/madman sexual behavior to exploit tRump and exploit AMERICA because of this kompromat.
TRdump is a man of many human weaknesses he is ripe and susceptible to being controlled as a puppet. This is likely why Putin has our pResident by the balls and has total control over him. If tRdump steps out of line Putin squeezes his testicles. Then there is the question of financial kompromat - Putin likely can put the squeeze on tRdump's wallet and send his financial well being into turmoil so he crashes and burns.
Anyone who calls this a nothing burgers has failed critical thinking - forensic crime scene - course study 101.
This could be the main key and component to bringing tRdump down and out of the people's White House and hopefully locked up in jail. The more fronts we approach and attack from the sooner we get rid of this criminal thug masquarading as America's President.
lapfog_1
(29,226 posts)it is chaos.
Fire this person, hire that person, Stormy lawsuit, Playboy centerfold lawsuit, EPA destruction, Russia probe, money laundering, threaten war with NK, with Iran, talk peace with NK, withdraw from NATO, vasty increase military spending, build a wall, don't build a wall, blah blah blah blah blah...
It goes on and on, every damn day... all the lies, all the chaos, everything.
Distraction? Yeah... more like inundation by outrage overload.
To the point that nobody pays attention to anything.
hlthe2b
(102,361 posts)It will have to reach "critical mass" with lots of cumulative issues.
Right now, Stormy and other related issues are impacting independents who may have supported him, especially women. If you read the polls that has been dramatic.
Whatever happens with Trump, if anything happens with Trump, we need to weaken him as much as possible. That will only happen with the DOCUMENTED accumulation of scandals and offenses that finally shake loose his supporters. Only then can actions taken after a hopeful change in Congress not lead to potential mass violence.
Kirk Lover
(3,608 posts)BootinUp
(47,188 posts)IADEMO2004
(5,559 posts)MicaelS
(8,747 posts)The more the merrier.
GeorgeGist
(25,323 posts)Like some dogs they even chase imaginary ones.