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malaise

(268,998 posts)
Thu Mar 29, 2018, 04:30 PM Mar 2018

Young David Hogg is light years ahead of these RW morons

Hogg: I'll accept Ingraham's apology if she condemns Fox News coverage

Parkland, Fla., high school shooting survivor David Hogg said Thursday that he will only accept an apology from Fox News host Laura Ingraham for mocking him over college rejections if she denounced her network's coverage of the Parkland students pushing for gun control.

"I will only accept your apology only if you denounce the way your network has treated my friends and I in this fight. It’s time to love thy neighbor, not mudsling at children," Hogg tweeted Thursday.

Four companies — TripAdvisor, Wayfair, Expedia and pet food brand Nutrish — pulled their ads from Ingraham’s show on Thursday.

Hogg told The New York Times that he wasn’t impressed by the Fox News host’s apology.

“She only apologized after we went after her advertisers. It kind of speaks for itself,” Hogg said.

Hogg told the Times that it was “extremely frustrating” for Ingraham to personally target him over the college rejections, even as he’s grown used to harsh criticism.

“I’m not going to stoop to her level and go after her on a personal level,” he said. “I’m going to go after her advertisers.”

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Young David Hogg is light years ahead of these RW morons (Original Post) malaise Mar 2018 OP
Do these shows/fools really rely on advertising for their paychecks? I thought it came from erronis Mar 2018 #1
I'd love details malaise Mar 2018 #2
And Saudis who own part of FOX. nt tblue37 Mar 2018 #22
When we started targeting O'Reilly's advertisers, it quickly let to his being fired flibbitygiblets Mar 2018 #28
When these companies remove the ads from her show Mariana Mar 2018 #30
LOLOLOLOLOL! (Inhales) Hahahaha... TheDebbieDee Mar 2018 #3
Beautifully done malaise Mar 2018 #6
No WONDER he didn't get accepted to all the schools to which he applied. pangaia Mar 2018 #4
ROFL malaise Mar 2018 #5
AND PoindexterOglethorpe Mar 2018 #8
Youre not alone! Lonestarblue Mar 2018 #10
"I and my friends" is far, far better than PoindexterOglethorpe Mar 2018 #13
Thank you 🙏🏾 HootieMcBoob Mar 2018 #12
Yet no one here is upset by the use of "moron"? DemocracyMouse Mar 2018 #19
They are morons malaise Mar 2018 #29
LOL... i give up. Give 'em heck DemocracyMouse Mar 2018 #31
Yep - picked that up immediately but I wasn't checking grammar here malaise Mar 2018 #15
No one ever says, "Me went to the store." Never ever. 3catwoman3 Mar 2018 #34
same here. I hate hearing the so and so and I when it should be and me. demigoddess Mar 2018 #20
What about me? I am working hard in the trenches: tblue37 Mar 2018 #25
I have just emailed these links to myself so I... 3catwoman3 Mar 2018 #35
OMG! Those are wonderful articles. PoindexterOglethorpe Mar 2018 #37
The articles on my site are targeted. I don't try to solve all possible grammar and usage tblue37 Mar 2018 #39
Meanwhile, I am completely serious when I say I'd like to take a college level PoindexterOglethorpe Mar 2018 #40
I actually wrote a little 77-page booklet in 1984 that I used to teach my grammar classes tblue37 Mar 2018 #41
Nice. PoindexterOglethorpe Mar 2018 #42
He really has this all figured out. Lucinda Mar 2018 #7
He has her number. ProudLib72 Mar 2018 #9
LOL malaise Mar 2018 #16
He goes directly at corporate America. Kurt V. Mar 2018 #11
+1,000 malaise Mar 2018 #17
Wise beyond his years! BigmanPigman Mar 2018 #14
Yes indeed malaise Mar 2018 #18
"Let he who is without sin cast the first stone..." DemocracyMouse Mar 2018 #21
He is very relevant and the Neanderthals know that. Blue_true Mar 2018 #23
So refreshing that David Hogg is both unleashed and untethered Mr. Ected Mar 2018 #24
David Hogg is hurting an evil person where it hurts the most meow2u3 Mar 2018 #26
Go David! Faux News is all About the Money. dlk Mar 2018 #27
yes. He's sharp. bigtree Mar 2018 #32
I'll take a million David Hoggs before I take one MAGAT. Initech Mar 2018 #33
From David and the father of a victim Gothmog Mar 2018 #36
David is just trolling the crap out of sister Ingraham - cheeze, this kid!! Leghorn21 Mar 2018 #38
Have some healthy reflections this Holy Week. Gothmog Mar 2018 #43
David Hogg/Emma Gonzalez 2036! smirkymonkey Mar 2018 #44
LOL malaise Mar 2018 #45

erronis

(15,257 posts)
1. Do these shows/fools really rely on advertising for their paychecks? I thought it came from
Thu Mar 29, 2018, 04:43 PM
Mar 2018

several deep pockets such as the beautiful Mercer family or the Kochs who have been rather under the radar recently. And of course the NRA with supposed foreign cash to be passed on to congress, dump et.al., and various media.

Of course, all they really want are eyeballs. Attention to their messages. Flashy, blonde, legs, whoosh/whoosh. I know of a couple of those eyeballs that are in a fake orange coiffure (covfefe).

When murduck gets his message from somewhere, he'll pull the plug on the spouters. Of course they will all go on to write books and say how they've become good christians and were duped by big media .

flibbitygiblets

(7,220 posts)
28. When we started targeting O'Reilly's advertisers, it quickly let to his being fired
Thu Mar 29, 2018, 07:33 PM
Mar 2018

per Wikipedia:

The O'Reilly Factor lost more than half its advertisers within a week; almost 60 companies withdrew their television advertising from the show amid a growing backlash against O'Reilly. Despite the loss of advertisers, The O'Reilly Factor's ratings increased during the controversy.

On April 11, 2017, O'Reilly announced he would take a two-week vacation and would return to the program on April 24; he normally takes a vacation around Easter. On April 19, 2017, O'Reilly's employment was terminated amidst these allegations

Mariana

(14,857 posts)
30. When these companies remove the ads from her show
Thu Mar 29, 2018, 07:42 PM
Mar 2018

they don't remove them from Fox News. They just play the ads on different shows, and Fox News gets paid just the same - and don't doubt for a second they want that money. The advertisers should be boycotted until they stop supporting Fox News altogether. Make the Kochs and the NRA etc. pay for it all themselves.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
4. No WONDER he didn't get accepted to all the schools to which he applied.
Thu Mar 29, 2018, 04:48 PM
Mar 2018

He used 'only' twice when only one was only needed.


These kids nowadays...

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,857 posts)
8. AND
Thu Mar 29, 2018, 05:06 PM
Mar 2018

". . . if you denounce the way your network has treated my friends and *I* in this fight."

Should be ". . . My friends and *me*. . ." Wrong form of the pronoun. Oh, well. I will probably live just long enough to be the last speaker of English to get that correct. Not to mention the last one who understands the subjunctive.

Lonestarblue

(9,988 posts)
10. Youre not alone!
Thu Mar 29, 2018, 05:12 PM
Mar 2018

I cringe whenever I hear otherwise well-spoken people begin their sentences “I and my friends” or confuse their pronouns. I’m also picky about “less than” versus “fewer.” I”ve almost given up on the effect/affect and who/whom confusion. Alas, I still hear my grammar teachers in my head, and their voices are relentless!

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,857 posts)
13. "I and my friends" is far, far better than
Thu Mar 29, 2018, 05:15 PM
Mar 2018

"Me and my friends" which is what I all too often hear.

The first one has what grammar witches would think is a rude inversion -- you ought to name your friends first -- but at least the subject form I is being used.

Many years ago I asked my sister why she didn't correct her children when they used such incorrect forms, and she said Oh, they'll catch on because they hear me saying it correctly. Well, it didn't work out that way and it's all I can do when I'm around her now grown children (all in their 30s) when they speak like that. One daughter in particular comes across sounding ignorant and uneducated, and she actually has a college degree.

DemocracyMouse

(2,275 posts)
19. Yet no one here is upset by the use of "moron"?
Thu Mar 29, 2018, 06:58 PM
Mar 2018

In DU it seems we are being trained to behave like attack dogs towards Republicans and avoid all critical thinking when it comes to ourselves.... just a hunch. Critical thinking in America is still what the founders of the country wanted by establishing the 1st amendment.... but not stooping to the gutter. Remember The Obama's sentiment:

"When they go low, we go high."

Still works for me.

malaise

(268,998 posts)
15. Yep - picked that up immediately but I wasn't checking grammar here
Thu Mar 29, 2018, 05:42 PM
Mar 2018

On the other hand when I taught remedial English decades ago I'd tell the kids who had that problem to test the nominative and objective pronouns in the plural.
They'd never say 'have treated we' - they would use 'us', so it's got to be 'me'.

3catwoman3

(23,985 posts)
34. No one ever says, "Me went to the store." Never ever.
Thu Mar 29, 2018, 11:30 PM
Mar 2018

If people can do it right in the singular, why can't they do it right in the plural? This mystifies me. I must have been an English teacher or grammarian in a past life. Sloppy language use sets my teeth on edge.

A recent atrocity that really gets on my nerves is people making a possessive out of "I " - John and I's wedding, or Mary and I's vacation, etc. Really cringeworthy.

demigoddess

(6,641 posts)
20. same here. I hate hearing the so and so and I when it should be and me.
Thu Mar 29, 2018, 06:59 PM
Mar 2018

My english teacher is rolling over in her grave!!

3catwoman3

(23,985 posts)
35. I have just emailed these links to myself so I...
Thu Mar 29, 2018, 11:38 PM
Mar 2018

...can savor them later.

These days, how many people even know the subjunctive mood exists, let alone use it.?

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,857 posts)
37. OMG! Those are wonderful articles.
Fri Mar 30, 2018, 12:02 AM
Mar 2018

I have long wished to take an advanced English grammar class, and frequently find myself fretting over exactly such dilemmas as are illustrated in those articles.

Thank you, thank you, thank you.

tblue37

(65,357 posts)
39. The articles on my site are targeted. I don't try to solve all possible grammar and usage
Fri Mar 30, 2018, 12:08 AM
Mar 2018

problems. Instead, I identify the ones that a lot of people seem to keep having trouble with and write articles that even someone without a lot of background knowledge can understand.

Notice that the title of the website is Grammar and Usage for the Non-Expert.

If I have to use technical terminology I explain it right there, or, if it would take too long to explain within that particular article, I write another article and then link to it so the necessary background information is easily accessible.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,857 posts)
40. Meanwhile, I am completely serious when I say I'd like to take a college level
Fri Mar 30, 2018, 12:14 AM
Mar 2018

class in grammar.

The last time I took an English grammar class was in the fall of 1963, in high school. I was in a sort of advanced junior English class, with an amazing teacher, and learned a lot. But I still feel as though I could learn a lot more.

Offhand, do you know of any colleges that teach English grammar?

I know, I'm weird.

tblue37

(65,357 posts)
41. I actually wrote a little 77-page booklet in 1984 that I used to teach my grammar classes
Fri Mar 30, 2018, 12:25 AM
Mar 2018

at KU. I called it A Practical Guide to Basic Sentence Grammar. In it I use traditional diagramming (with a few modifications that I introduced for clarity) as a method for explaining the parts of the sentence and showing how they relate to each other.

I taught the remedial writing course for freshmen, and I also taught an advanced grammar course.

Unfortunately, neither of those courses are offered any longer at KU. The last time I taught advanced grammar was also in 1984.

I still make my little grammar book available as a download to all my students, along with another one (50 pages long) called A Brief Guide to Comma Usage.


PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,857 posts)
42. Nice.
Fri Mar 30, 2018, 11:33 AM
Mar 2018

It's scary the extent to which grammar is barely taught in schools any more.

Foreign language teachers complain that they have to teach English grammar to their students before they can teach their language's grammar.

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
9. He has her number.
Thu Mar 29, 2018, 05:11 PM
Mar 2018

Headline should read:

High school kid quickly figures out ploy of dimwitted Faux Nooze talking head while millions of her viewers gape with drool hanging off their chins.

Kurt V.

(5,624 posts)
11. He goes directly at corporate America.
Thu Mar 29, 2018, 05:13 PM
Mar 2018

first the NRA and now corporate sponsors. he knows the system already.

BigmanPigman

(51,591 posts)
14. Wise beyond his years!
Thu Mar 29, 2018, 05:33 PM
Mar 2018

He knows that these talking head "Christians" are full of shit, lying, hate filled hypocrites and isn't afraid to call them out. He wasn't elected so doesn't have to kiss anyone's ass, has the support of millions around the world and has no fear! GO DAVID GO!

DemocracyMouse

(2,275 posts)
21. "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone..."
Thu Mar 29, 2018, 06:59 PM
Mar 2018

In DU it seems we are being trained to behave like attack dogs towards Republicans and avoid all critical thinking when it comes to ourselves.... just a hunch. Critical thinking in America is still what the founders of the country wanted by establishing the 1st amendment.... but not stooping to the gutter. Remember The Obama's sentiment:

"When they go low, we go high."

Still works for me.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
23. He is very relevant and the Neanderthals know that.
Thu Mar 29, 2018, 07:02 PM
Mar 2018

They don't attack people that do not scare them.

Mr. Ected

(9,670 posts)
24. So refreshing that David Hogg is both unleashed and untethered
Thu Mar 29, 2018, 07:02 PM
Mar 2018

He doesn't have to filter his statements through the political calculations of our elected leaders.

dlk

(11,566 posts)
27. Go David! Faux News is all About the Money.
Thu Mar 29, 2018, 07:27 PM
Mar 2018

I would say shame on them but they have no conscience. They only care about money, so targeting their advertisers is the most effective strategy.

bigtree

(85,996 posts)
32. yes. He's sharp.
Thu Mar 29, 2018, 09:55 PM
Mar 2018

...I hope he takes some serious downtime. I'm sure this work he's doing is cathartic, but fighting to maintain his sanity is a different kind of effort.

He's definitely got a lot of the right stuff for this challenging occurrence in his life. Ingraham is definitely out of his league.

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