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still_one

(92,190 posts)
Fri Mar 30, 2018, 10:00 AM Mar 2018

Heres Hillary Clintons blunt response to those who say get off the stage and shut up

"The 2016 election is over and Donald Trump is president, so why is Hillary Clinton still making public appearances and talking to crowds?

Or, as Ruth Mandel director of Rutgers Eagleton Institute of Politics put it to Clinton Tursday at Rutgers in Piscataway, why still talk when "People say get of the stage and shut up"?

The former secretary of state's response was direct:
"They never said that to any man who was not elected."


https://www.rawstory.com/2018/03/heres-hillary-clintons-blunt-response-say-get-off-stage-shut/

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Heres Hillary Clintons blunt response to those who say get off the stage and shut up (Original Post) still_one Mar 2018 OP
Damn, I love her. nt Phoenix61 Mar 2018 #1
++++++++++++++++++++ Agree iluvtennis Mar 2018 #11
You never heard anyone suggest that any man take up knitting or take long walks Arkansas Granny Mar 2018 #2
+1 dalton99a Mar 2018 #15
You got that right. If tRump lost, would they have handed him a broom and told him go find a porch? Texin Mar 2018 #21
She scares more than just the rightwingers. That is why Eliot Rosewater Mar 2018 #26
Putin did NOT want to deal with President Hillary Clinton. Arkansas Granny Mar 2018 #27
Great response Gothmog Mar 2018 #3
Heck... the MSM obsesses on every mouthfart from Rick Santorum... farmbo Mar 2018 #4
Could not agree more! Raster Mar 2018 #5
McCain was constantly on TV after he lost to Obama. emulatorloo Mar 2018 #6
EXTRA points for that one!!!!!! MyOwnPeace Mar 2018 #36
And Newt Gingrich. murielm99 Mar 2018 #56
Hear, hear! onecaliberal Mar 2018 #7
That's Right Me. Mar 2018 #8
Teach! sheshe2 Mar 2018 #9
I was angry that she apologized the other day. WhiteTara Mar 2018 #10
So was I. She's issued more than enough apologies. Paladin Mar 2018 #20
Thank you. She is the only one owed an apology & the only one who the Wwcd Mar 2018 #29
Absolutely. WhiteTara Mar 2018 #40
Yes, that was nice, and deserved. Hillary is a heroin. Hortensis Mar 2018 #48
I agree TimeToGo Mar 2018 #12
You're right. If she had lost to a better candidate, or even a better human being, Arkansas Granny Mar 2018 #19
Well, there's that, of course TimeToGo Mar 2018 #22
YAYYYY for HRC! niyad Mar 2018 #13
K&R ismnotwasm Mar 2018 #14
Game set and match! Canoe52 Mar 2018 #16
K&R ehrnst Mar 2018 #17
Good response, but it's just a partial sentence - FoxNewsSucks Mar 2018 #18
I for one am very glad she's speaking out NastyRiffraff Mar 2018 #23
Post removed Post removed Mar 2018 #24
She was intentionally silenced. They redefined who she is & what she was worth to America. Wwcd Mar 2018 #30
Whining? ploppy Mar 2018 #32
Whining about sexism ? When did HRC whine about sexism? lapucelle Mar 2018 #33
Wow.. some people just Cha Mar 2018 #42
LOL-theres a big part of me wishes shed run again. nolabear Mar 2018 #25
What the hell? She's a private citizen and she can say any damn thing The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2018 #28
That is nonsense... sfwriter Mar 2018 #31
Your link says that Gore was exhorted lapucelle Mar 2018 #37
Good for HRC! appalachiablue Mar 2018 #34
Did she conveniently forget Al Gore LeonardShelby Mar 2018 #35
The man was advised to take the elder statesman route. lapucelle Mar 2018 #39
The BASHING of Hillary will never end, even here. Eliot Rosewater Mar 2018 #44
Well Shame On Her Me. Mar 2018 #43
Thats cause she so old. EffieBlack Mar 2018 #49
And Feeble Me. Mar 2018 #53
She needs to smile more EffieBlack Mar 2018 #55
I Was Wondering About That Me. Mar 2018 #58
Identity politics ismnotwasm Mar 2018 #45
Well that was wrong too. Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #46
You might want to re-read the article you shared that you seem to think makes your point. ehrnst Mar 2018 #47
I think you are misremembering Al Gore after the election. Al Gore disapeared and wrote a talk on... marble falls Mar 2018 #50
Yep Demovictory9 Mar 2018 #38
Not anywhere near how much they've Cha Mar 2018 #41
my Madam President!!! samnsara Mar 2018 #51
This is part of the problem for Democrats...... dameatball Mar 2018 #52
There's more than 60,000,000 that would ALWAYS love to hear what she has to say! democratisphere Mar 2018 #54
Except maybe her husband oberliner Mar 2018 #57
Um... Mike Nelson Mar 2018 #59

Arkansas Granny

(31,516 posts)
2. You never heard anyone suggest that any man take up knitting or take long walks
Fri Mar 30, 2018, 10:09 AM
Mar 2018

in the woods, either. I don't understand why they are all so eager to have Hillary disappear from the public forum. Maybe she reminds too many people of the bad choice they made when they decided not to vote for her.

farmbo

(3,121 posts)
4. Heck... the MSM obsesses on every mouthfart from Rick Santorum...
Fri Mar 30, 2018, 10:24 AM
Mar 2018

... who hasn’t won a political campaign since the (Bill) Clinton Administration.

Point taken, Hillary.

And keep challenging us.

murielm99

(30,739 posts)
56. And Newt Gingrich.
Sat Mar 31, 2018, 04:37 PM
Mar 2018

He was censured. He became very unpopular. He was laughed at, and resigned in disgrace.

Why the hell is he still all over the talk shows?

Paladin

(28,257 posts)
20. So was I. She's issued more than enough apologies.
Fri Mar 30, 2018, 12:35 PM
Mar 2018
She's the one who's owed apologies at this point---from us.
 

Wwcd

(6,288 posts)
29. Thank you. She is the only one owed an apology & the only one who the
Fri Mar 30, 2018, 01:24 PM
Mar 2018

Campaign was "rigged" against.
Yet she never ever turned that truth into a self pitying, self serving campaign meme.

She is owed apologies from ALL of those who demanded her silence.

Candidates, pile-on social media bshitters & especially Main Stream MEDIA.

They are all the biggest embarassment this nation has ever witnessed.


Speak your years of wisdom Sec Clinton.
You have always put the well being of human rights before yourself. You hide nothing from us.

She has claimed her place among the footsteps of the greats.




http://womenyoushouldknow.net/inspired-illustration-feminism-work-pays-tribute-pioneers-moved-womens-history-forward/


Onward Together, Hillary!




WhiteTara

(29,711 posts)
40. Absolutely.
Fri Mar 30, 2018, 04:42 PM
Mar 2018

She was however given a standing ovation when she was at a conference this week...sorry, brain didn't absorb name.

TimeToGo

(1,366 posts)
12. I agree
Fri Mar 30, 2018, 12:19 PM
Mar 2018

And I agree that she has been treated horribly -- now and before the election.

But the empiricist in me has to recognize that she was the first major female candidate and so therefore whatever happened to her would be the first. And male "losers" have often been treated roughly -- (e.g. Michael Dukakis).

I think sexism is a huge part of it, but in addition the state of American politics in the last 30 years has a lot to do with it (remember the Dean Scream?).

Had she lost (and I have to be honest, I'm still not totally sure she actually did, but that takes us someplace else) to a better human being than we have in the White House, and if the hate and lack of genuine ideas from that other party wasn't so on display (e.g. denying Pres Obama a hearing on his Sup Ct nominee), and if some people on the left weren't so insistent that she was just as bad as DJT, we might be in a much more respectful place now.

For myself, I think of her as political voice that she alone can decide when to quiet. She has paid her dues.

Let's blame sexism, sure, but let's not let every other culprit off the hook.

Arkansas Granny

(31,516 posts)
19. You're right. If she had lost to a better candidate, or even a better human being,
Fri Mar 30, 2018, 12:35 PM
Mar 2018

we would all be in a better place right now.

FoxNewsSucks

(10,429 posts)
18. Good response, but it's just a partial sentence -
Fri Mar 30, 2018, 12:27 PM
Mar 2018

Should have said:
"They never said that to any man who was not elected, not even to the men who got fewer votes than their opponent."

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
23. I for one am very glad she's speaking out
Fri Mar 30, 2018, 12:56 PM
Mar 2018

On a variety of topics. She not only has the right to do so, her views are welcome, and needed. It's right and necessary that we hear from someone experienced, smart, and articulate. Hell, the bar has been lowered so far that someone who can speak in complete, understandable sentences is an improvement over what we have to hear from the so-called president.

Still with her!

Response to still_one (Original post)

 

Wwcd

(6,288 posts)
30. She was intentionally silenced. They redefined who she is & what she was worth to America.
Fri Mar 30, 2018, 01:29 PM
Mar 2018

Pitiful that so many bought the big fat lies.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,690 posts)
28. What the hell? She's a private citizen and she can say any damn thing
Fri Mar 30, 2018, 01:09 PM
Mar 2018

to anybody who's willing to listen, and obviously people are interested in hearing from her.

lapucelle

(18,252 posts)
37. Your link says that Gore was exhorted
Fri Mar 30, 2018, 01:41 PM
Mar 2018

to take the elder statesman route. That’s not the same thing as being advised to go away.

 

LeonardShelby

(9 posts)
35. Did she conveniently forget Al Gore
Fri Mar 30, 2018, 01:35 PM
Mar 2018

Yes people did say that to a man. People said it about Al Gore frequently, after he lost the presidential election in 2000.
One example: https://www.nytimes.com/2002/08/10/opinion/we-love-you-you-re-perfect-goodbye.html
Hillary should have easily remembered that time period and argument against Gore, since Gore was her husband's VP. It was a pretty big discussion at the time. In my opinion, she gave an intellectually dishonest answer, going for the identity politics applause line, but it's not really true.

lapucelle

(18,252 posts)
39. The man was advised to take the elder statesman route.
Fri Mar 30, 2018, 01:43 PM
Mar 2018

The woman was advised to go away. No, HRC didn’t forget.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,109 posts)
44. The BASHING of Hillary will never end, even here.
Sat Mar 31, 2018, 01:01 PM
Mar 2018

It never will because she is a STRONG smarter than FUCK woman and that really scares the shit out of a whole lotta folk on all sides of the political world

Me.

(35,454 posts)
43. Well Shame On Her
Sat Mar 31, 2018, 11:18 AM
Mar 2018

thank goodness she didn't become president because apparently, along with her million other faults, she has a bad memory, for she didn't immediately bring to mind something that happened nearly 2 decades ago.

 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
47. You might want to re-read the article you shared that you seem to think makes your point.
Sat Mar 31, 2018, 03:05 PM
Mar 2018

It's about people telling Gore not to run again, not to go away.

I don't recall him being told to go away at the Oscars, nor that him being told things like "go take up knitting" was part of any "big discussion" at all.

In my opinion what is "intellectually dishonest" is to claim that's what HRC is talking about, and that Gore was treated the same way.

Did Bill Bradley supporters protest his speeches in 2002? Please share any instances that you know of.





marble falls

(57,081 posts)
50. I think you are misremembering Al Gore after the election. Al Gore disapeared and wrote a talk on...
Sat Mar 31, 2018, 04:09 PM
Mar 2018

global warming and growing a beard.

Cha

(297,210 posts)
41. Not anywhere near how much they've
Sat Mar 31, 2018, 02:23 AM
Mar 2018

said it to, Hillary.. right on this board, too.

"our revolution" was going to protest her as a private citizen, when she was getting paid less than others, who have spoken at Rutgers, and other Universities. Until they were pressured not to.

I don't know if they protested her under another name, like they said they would, or not.

They were acting like they wanted to shut her up.. as a private citizen.

Thank you for this, still_one



dameatball

(7,397 posts)
52. This is part of the problem for Democrats......
Sat Mar 31, 2018, 04:12 PM
Mar 2018

Republicans think what Ted Nugent says is important.

"Some" Dems think Hillary should shut up.

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