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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsFormer US attorney & MSNBC legal expert makes two VERY important points here:
These are tweets this evening from Joyce White Vance. Her Wikipedia page:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joyce_White_Vance
These tweets of hers caught my attention:
Link to tweet
Even more importantly, she tweeted about some details of DOJ policy explaining that even if Mueller expects Trump to be indicted, he might not notify Trump's lawyers of that for certain reasons:
Link to tweet
Link to the DOJ page with that policy:
https://www.justice.gov/usam/usam-9-11000-grand-jury
When a target is not called to testify pursuant to USAM 9-11.150, and does not request to testify on his or her own motion (see USAM 9-11.152), the prosecutor, in appropriate cases, is encouraged to notify such person a reasonable time before seeking an indictment in order to afford him or her an opportunity to testify before the grand jury, subject to the conditions set forth in USAM 9-11.152. Notification would not be appropriate in routine clear cases or when such action might jeopardize the investigation or prosecution because of the likelihood of flight, destruction or fabrication of evidence, endangerment of other witnesses, undue delay or otherwise would be inconsistent with the ends of justice.
Emphasis added.
This policy detail makes it clear that even if Mueller believes he has enough evidence to indict Trump, he is not required to notify Trump's lawyers of that fact, given all the things Trump could try to do to obstruct the investigation and prosecuton.
dalton99a
(81,516 posts)Mike Nelson
(9,959 posts)...but I'm not sure the present Republican Congress will impeach and convict Crooked Donald, despite the clarity of his crimes.
blake2012
(1,294 posts)SidDithers
(44,228 posts)Sid
Clarity2
(1,009 posts)in many cases doesnt make sense to me. If you are conducting a mob or drug sting for years for instance, would you notify them they are a target? Hell no.
babylonsister
(171,070 posts)I wish we could let dt go on his merry way without the media educating him...maybe.
I do think he's doomed. Finally.
calimary
(81,321 posts)Fox & Friends maybe. But they spoonfeed him everything that is fawning and favorable. The other media, ANY other media trying or not trying to educate him - they're the ones reporting things he doesn't want to hear or believe. So those are the ones he'll summarily dismiss as "fake news."
bdamomma
(63,875 posts)happy about being a "subject" ............what a jerk....let him sit down and answer questions let him bury himself.
Anyone watching Lawrence O'Donnell?
bigtree
(85,998 posts)...and make clear crimes (for anyone other than a sitting president) have been committed.
Does anyone believe Congress will impeach Trump for anything other than criminal charges, much less crimes said to be committed in a report?
triron
(22,007 posts)orangecrush
(19,572 posts)PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,862 posts)First off, is that Democrats controlled both the House and the Senate. And the Republican leadership of that era, while understandably loyal to the Republican President, were also men of, if not honor, decency.
elmac
(4,642 posts)I do not think the fascists will impeach one of their own.
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,862 posts)And had Republicans controlled either the House or the Senate Nixon might not have resigned. It's hard to say.
I was an adult and lived in the Washington DC area then, and even though I did not work for the federal government, the last week before the election it was obvious to everyone that absolutely no work was being done in any branch of government.
I worked at DCA, National Airport, and was working when Nixon made his resignation speech. I can tell you that I never before or since saw the airport at such a complete standstill. Planes did not push away from the gate so as to watch or listen to the speech. Not a single person came up to our ticket counter in the nearly twenty minutes Nixon was speaking. No one.
I have a recurring fantasy that I will be alerted to Trump's leaving office by massive fireworks and street celebrations.
benld74
(9,904 posts)How can impeachment proceed?
Who in GOP has ability to do it
Awsi Dooger
(14,565 posts)In this climate there is no such thing as a report that is, "sufficiently politically damaging to make impeachment the only option."
Trump and Fox and Republicans everywhere would scoff at any report. They would devote every second to mangling it and picking apart every word. Truth means squat to that crowd.
Whenever someone makes a Nixon comparison you can basically toss out the remainder of their premise. Brutal comprehension of situational impact.