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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsAlarming excerpts (about vote alteration) from "Russian Roulette" (Isiskoff, Corn)
Referring to states voter databases, the Director of cybersecurity under Obama says to staffer
"It's starting to look like every single state has been targeted." !!!
And then a few sentences later the authors write: "Other administration officials had a darker view and believed that the Russians were deliberately plotting DIGITAL MANIPULATIONS, perhaps with the goal of ALTERING RESULTS. !!!!!
Why isn't this being shouted out in the media?
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)They are afraid that the Public will turn on them and all those Millionaire Talent Types will be out of a job.
ananda
(28,866 posts)nt
Achilleaze
(15,543 posts)he was doing a professional job of reporting on the KGOP republican traitors. They quicly replaced him with GiddyBoy Glor & His Fabby Feature Stories - weak as water. Diversion. Waste of air time in the midst of the US being undermined. Dangerous. CBS failed the public with this.
Just one example of corporate media failing to do its job. Super sad.
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)Shades of Dan Rather. Again,CBS is scared of their viewers on the Right wing,which there are none.
Eko
(7,318 posts)But there are people in the Government who's job is to think of the worst case scenarios and inform the President of them, that could be what this is, or something else entirely. We don't know, there is no real proof for this so far and that is why the Media is not shouting this out, we are not the Republicans and Faux news.
triron
(22,007 posts)One needs to understand the context of all this. There is also other evidence
of electoral compromise.
Eko
(7,318 posts)are not people in the government and in administrations whose job is to think of the worst case scenario?
D23MIURG23
(2,850 posts)portrayed as a possibility that was considered, not a provable conclusion. Here is a piece of context that followed that passage:
Michael Daniel was worried. He believed the Russians ability to fiddle with the national vote countand swing a national U.S. election to a desired candidateseemed limited, if not impossible. We have three thousand jurisdictions, Daniel subsequently explained. You have to pick the county where the race was going to be tight and manipulate the results. That seemed beyond their reach. The Russians were not trying to flip votes. To have that level of precision was not feasible. But Daniel was focused on another parade of horribles: If hackers could penetrate a state election voter database, they might be able to delete every tenth name. Or flip two digits in a voters ID numberso when a voter showed up at the polls, his or her name would not match. The changes could be subtle, not easily discerned. But the potential for disorder on Election Day was immense.
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Daniel even fretted that the Russians might post online a video of a hacked voting machine. The video would not have to be real to stoke the paranoids of the world and cause a segment of the electorate to suspector concludethat the results could not be trusted.
Isikoff, Michael. Russian Roulette: The Inside Story of Putin's War on America and the Election of Donald Trump (Kindle Locations 2872-2878). Grand Central Publishing. Kindle Edition.
I'm not all the way through the book yet, but if they present any evidence of direct vote total tampering I'd be surprised. If you've read all of the book and can cite that evidence then by all means correct me. I think the media really would be talking a lot about vote total manipulation if there were solid evidence of it though. What's quoted above is a report about what officials were speculating so treating it as confirmation of anything would be irresponsible.
DallasNE
(7,403 posts)If a hacker has access to the executable code for a voting machine they could reverse engineer the code, apply a patch/zap and replace with the altered executable code.
Now if it was in, say, Wayne County, Michigan (Detroit) and the zap was to blank out all votes for President on every 10th ballot it would swing a close election. From memory, Wayne County had 70,000 under votes. Those under votes were never reviewed. And they were FAR greater than in prior presidential elections.
Again, just speculation on a method where actual votes could be altered and it would be darn hard to track down.
StevieM
(10,500 posts)I suspect that they did change the vote tally in.
I have concerns about both the primary and the GE in Michigan. Some things don't seem to add up.
Let's also not forget that the MI Republican party blocked the recount after the GE.
triron
(22,007 posts)btw (as a side note): Susan Rice directed the cybersecurity team to "stand down".
That Obama wanted a 'peaceful transition' was cited as a possible reason.
So the Obama administration did not want to even look for election tampering, apparently.
Exit poll analyses by Dr. Ron Baiman together with pre-election day predictions indicate to me
(in a probabilistic sense) that is indeed probably what happened (election tampering by some and varied means). I am convinced (or 99% sure) the election was a scam.
questionseverything
(9,656 posts)software
or hand count the ballots
btw videos of hacked voting machines have been posted, for years now
UCmeNdc
(9,600 posts)RandomAccess
(5,210 posts)if they tell us the truth, we won't have "trust" in our elections, and we won't vote.
It makes me crazy, just crazy.
The media also has a terrible track record on sniffing out and reporting elections problems, going back at least to 2000. They bow to the power. I believe that was the year they first bent exit poll data to match election results completely obscuring what had really happened.
triron
(22,007 posts)Sometimes I wonder about what is real though.