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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsDoor Cty WI went for Dallot 62 to 38% !! This is one of the counties Gov Walker tried to
stop the special election from happening until THREE judges told him to stuff it.
Trump won Door Cty by about 3 pts as I recall.
Now Scooter is having a twitter meltdown. te he.
I forgot which other district has a special election
Also, very happy and surprised Chippewa Cty went blue tonight. whow whow whow.
Skittles
(153,169 posts)sprinkleeninow
(20,250 posts)"We know YOU are, but what are we!"
(Sing-song it.)
Grammar skool taunt. Appropriate for these immature fools.
Attaway Wisconsin! 👍🌊 [Hi, Dodgeville.]
Skittles
(153,169 posts)I LOVE MY COUNTRY AND I DETEST FASCISM
ProfessorGAC
(65,069 posts)Anger and hatred? Yeah, i'm good with that. They deserve it.
mokawanis
(4,442 posts)Moved here 1.5 yrs. ago when I retired.
sprinkleeninow
(20,250 posts)bc of the multitude of such beautiful customer care consultants at a 'particular' merchant there. Online, in select stores, in catalogs. 🤗
Their recording says they'll help you in their friendly mid-western sort of way. And that's an understatement!
My hub is big 'n' tall and he's outfitted from stem to stern and everything in between. I give clothes away that I get tired of looking at. They just won't wear out!
We're currently in the southern half of the States and a freeze is forecast Saturday nite with chance of snow. Oy!
How are y'all faring up there?
Cheers,
~sprink
💙🇺🇸🌊
titaniumsalute
(4,742 posts)Demovictory9
(32,457 posts)oasis
(49,389 posts)Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)that makes Duffy a short timer.
DownFromTheMountain
(226 posts)Go Door County! So proud of my old home!
Poiuyt
(18,125 posts)Best pancakes in the world!
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)riversedge
(70,242 posts)workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)I just found it a few weeks ago
The_REAL_Ecumenist
(722 posts)The ACTUAL reason that these places that supposedly went for drumpf by "X" points and now have completely turned for ACTUAL Americans, (most often progressive & BEE-LOO) is because HE DIDN'T FUCKING WIN THOSE PLACES IN THE FIRST PLACE!! He WAS INSTALLED. ARGUE if you want to BUT I will NEVER believe that the putin, stank Azz Assange, Wikileaks, guccifer, etc not ONLY suppressed the vote BUT FLIPPED it in certain IMPORTANT STATES & PLACES! It's very easy to understand when a person actually engages their brain & uses even the most basic logic. He DID NOT WIN these places...PERIOD.
Tess49
(1,580 posts)byronius
(7,395 posts)Someday electronic voting will be absolutely illegal, as it should be.
The_REAL_Ecumenist
(722 posts)Happyhippychick
(8,379 posts)Stop saying he won, he didn't. He stole
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)But don't forget that Hillary WON the popular vote!
She got like 2 or 3 MILLION more votes than Orange Hitler but the electoral college gave the bastard the win anyway!
bigbrother05
(5,995 posts)Add a few hundred over here, disappear a few hundred over there and a close win for her becomes a close steal for him.
CA alone was enough to account for her popular margin. Assumptions in the Midwest were fatal.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)I think Michigan was only 10,000 or so over to Trump.
Comey's email gambit and Cambridge Analytica/Facebook Russian bots could account for that.
RandomAccess
(5,210 posts)I post these often:
The big problems are voter suppression, Russian meddling, and targeted voter propaganda through Twitter, Google, Facebook, and other forms of social media. There is no question that the Trump campaign, through Cambridge Analytica, did this -- and that the Russians did this. The only question is how much they conspired together in the propaganda campaign.
We need to figure out how to defend the democratic process from fake news and micro-targeted AI propaganda -- or lose our democracy. https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029576691
Here is how they stole the election, well this and KGB operatives V Crosscheck in action:
Trump victory margin in Michigan: 13,107
Michigan Crosscheck purge list: 449,922
Trump victory margin in Arizona: 85,257
Arizona Crosscheck purge list: 270,824
Trump victory margin in North Carolina: 177,008
North Carolina Crosscheck purge list: 589,393
http://www.gregpalast.com/election-stolen-heres/
PALMER: Rigged election: Donald Trump won every surprise swing state by the same 1% margin
http://www.palmerreport.com/opinion/rigged-election-donald-trump-won-every-surprise-swing-state-by-the-same-1-margin/118/
The most commonly posited explanation of Donald Trumps shocking election victory was that every professional pollster in the nation despite each working independently and using differing methodologies somehow managed to overlook the same pockets of Trump voters in these states. If such pockets did exist, they would have existed in varying sizes in each of the four states, thus resulting in different sized wins in each.
Ask any statistician and theyll tell you that a reasonable distribution of the results would have been Trump winning one of the states by one percent, won one of them by perhaps three percent, won one of them by two percent, lost one of them by one percent, or something along those lines. But instead the voting tallies looked startlingly different from any natural distribution. In fact they looked startlingly the same.
According to the New York Times, the voting results broke down like this: Trump won Florida by just over one percent of the vote. He also won Pennsylvania by just over one percent. He won Michigan by just under one percent. And he won Wisconsin by precisely one percent. Thats not how numbers tend to work in the real world.
On its own, this kind of suspiciously consistent numerical dispersion across the four states that decided the election would be something that could be written off as a mere fluke. But when you put it within the context of the numerous other ways in which the voting tallies make no mathematical sense, it points to the numbers having been rigged or altered.
#unhackthevote
Did Trump win Michigan? I don' think so.
Won by 10,704 but wait
75,355 Ballots Thrown Out
87 Machines Broke Down in Detrioit
Link to tweet
Ron Baiman (Ph. D.): U.S. 2016 Unadjusted Exit Poll Discrepancies.... (Affadavit)
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100210343625
Updated, Expanded and Corrected Affidavit Version: U.S. 2016 Unadjusted Exit Poll Discrepancies Fit Chronic Republican Vote Count Rigging, not Random Statistical, Patterns https://www.researchgate.net/publication/319205877_Updated_Expanded_and_Corrected_Affidavit_Version_US_2016_Unadjusted_Exit_Poll_Discrepancies_Fit_Chronic_Republican_Vote_-_Count_Rigging_not_Random_Statistical_Patterns
cilla4progress
(24,736 posts)I believe that leaders in both parties know this... I keep remembering the stricken looks on DiFi and Maxine's faces after confidential meetings...
I think they know but/and are uber concerned with managing this information to avoid bloody civil war in this country. In a sense, are coordinating with Mueller, to disclose this gradually, to keep the crazy rightists from bearing their automatic weapons in the streets...
This is further confirmed for me by the disclosures yesterday that Mueller will be issuing a report about trumpe and obstruction in June/July. They don't want to shock the system., but are letting us get used to the idea gradually.
It is also consistent with Obama not coming out forcefully (which was a mistake, in my opinion) in 2016 to let us know about the extent of Russian meddling. He didn't want to do it without Mitch, so it would appear nonpartisan. I bet he's regretting it now.
In a sense they don't trust us with the truth in another sense, I believe they fear for the public response...a potential civil war.
Now, where did I leave my tinfoil hat....! 😉
The_REAL_Ecumenist
(722 posts)ALSO win that side bet, (& this comes from a woman who DOES NOT GAMBLE-I'm terrible at anything that involves cards, dice, etc AND I'm too cheap..lol ...MOVING RIGHT ALONG), I DO believe that the leaders of both parties KNEW but for whatever reason, had their hands tied behind their backs. I'm going to go out of a very weak limb and say something I've believed from Jump Street. Before all of this is said and done, NOT ONLY will the treason extend their tentacles throughout the gop BUT throughout the fabric of America, INCLUDING but certainly NOT limited to state governments, (in gop controlled states), BILLIONAIRES, (the names are WELL known), the CYBERWORLD, beyond pin headed lying morons like alex jones, russian troll squads in Macedonia, Bulgaria, Ukraine, etc, etc , racist & islamophobic groups, THROUGHOUT the world & many people will be walking on their lower lips when certain names are are revealed. The way I explained it to my husband using a the metaphor of a cross between a hydra AND an octopus.
questionseverything
(9,656 posts)i think the same repub insiders stole it that have been stealing them for years now
doesn't really matter who,the big point is that until WE THE PEOPLE can oversee our own elections and vote count,our elections are not legitiment
The_REAL_Ecumenist
(722 posts)he KNOWS he didn;t win, which explains why he is ALWAYS & FOREVER, talking about Hillary Clinton, President Obama , how his inauguration was the largest in history, etc. This f*cker isNOT the president of ANYTHING & he knows it.
Vinca
(50,278 posts)in a state Supreme Court race, let alone care who wins. The GOP is losing everything - do they notice?
RandomAccess
(5,210 posts)I've gotten polled a bunch of times in the last 2 months or so, the most recent CLEARLY for my RepubliCON Congressman. Some of the questions made it clear they are paying attention:
* whether beefing up background checks and some other unimpressive thing re guns would be enough
* whether they should help Trump pass his agenda or serve as a check on him
* several others that clearly showed they see some of what's going on and are trying to understand it.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)If they got their heads out of the koch bros asses for a minute they could see whats goin on huh?
RandomAccess
(5,210 posts)I could say the same about our Dem leaders who can't seem to figure out how to appeal to their own base. But whatever.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)But yeah, I think the party should take a hard left if that's what you want to call it.
The American people are in favor of single payer health care for all, legal cannabis, prescription drug price controls, 15 dollar minimum wage, common sense gun control, assault weapon ban, just to name a few.
Run on that and revolutionize America for the worker and the common citizen!
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,732 posts)I wonder what they're thinking?
Heh.
BlueWI
(1,736 posts)Time to donate, canvas, and anything we all can do to win the special elections!!