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Then he has the nerve to talk about real conservatives in glowing terms. What was "supply-side economics?" How about the lies about the Clintons (murdering 30 plus people, Whitewater, Rose law firm billing, uranium, email,...). How about birtherism or Swiftboat lying? How about "creation science?" How about Willie Horton? Iran-Contra? The Southern strategy? Climate science denialism?
I merely scratch the surface of right wing lies and smears.
And now Scarborough acts as if #fakepresident is some kind of affront to "conservatism?" #fakepresident is not of Scarborough because #fakepresident lies?
"Conservatives" have been at war against the truth for 60 years. Leo Strauss advocated lying. Jude Wanniski, father of "supply-side economics," proffered the whole idea as a scam.
Look in the mirror, Scar. Your precious anti-intellectual ideology is responsible for #fakepresident. #fakepresident is a symptom of your own pathology, not a cause. You all are at war against the truth.
Republicans have been lying and cheating to win for decades. That is how people like Roger Stone made a living. Trump in the White House is the end result of all those years of dishonest politics. I suppose it was inevitable.
Raster
(20,998 posts)...own it, Joe. Don't foist it off on the old Clinton boogyman or woman. In fact, JOE, Morning Joe would be better if you took an extended leave. Keep Mika, same guests, etc. Just NOT YOU JOE.
Cosmocat
(14,565 posts)I hate knocking people on our side, but lived through the 90s, and those assholes in congress were only a small fraction less worse than the current assholes, and Scarborough was one of the biggest douchebags of all.
I have tried repeatedly here and other places to get people to not watch that shitshow ... He is a snake and should be treated as such.
Raster
(20,998 posts)...and the supposed conversion to the anti-tRump* side. However, Joe Scar is Joe Scar. The main reason Joe Scar is anti-tRump* is that tRump* kicked Joe to the curb (as he usually does with everyone) and didn't come through with that cushy Cabinet position or Ambassador gig that was supposedly dangled in front of Joe's face.
Progressive dog
(6,904 posts)oberliner
(58,724 posts)Like he always does.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)of the whole Mika face lift thing. Like seemingly ALL republicans, until it becomes personal, they're perfectly happy to ignore all the crap their party does so they can remain in power. I'm not impressed with either his or Mika's turnaround. It's so obviously for only personal reasons and those two did more than most to prop up the degenerate during the campaign.
maddiemom
(5,106 posts)Early on, the Orange One was calling in nearly daily. Well, whatever the reason, "better late than ever" with the criticism, I guess.
Cary
(11,746 posts)I will not defend Mika and Scar but I don't know what motivates them or whether that matters so much. You may be correct; I honestly don't know.
Much of what they say is true and it is good they're saying it. But I stick with the metaphor of treating the symptom and not the underlying pathology. That's where I have a problem with Mika and Scar. They do not seem to me to be brave enough to own their own role in this as has been said here many times.
I would be willing to forgive but again they attack the symptom: #fakepresident. What's needed is a commitment to truth. I don't see them rising to that level.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)is written all over Mika's face every times she speaks of him. She's disgusted and it's been that way since he insulted her. I'll take it whenever the press finally decides they've had enough of propping up this degenerate but I'm not fooling myself into thinking it's for noble reasons.
Cary
(11,746 posts)Cosmocat
(14,565 posts)his/her petty vendetta against 45 rings exceedingly hallow when he goes on with his usual conservative tripe, the "middle america" bullshit drum beat he has been banging for decades which is what made 45 possible.
He was the prior incarnate of the current jackasses in congress, and should be viewed as the snake that he is.
riversedge
(70,242 posts)leftynyc
(26,060 posts)but I'll never trust those two. They were pushing donnie from the primaries and I'll never forgive them for never asking him even one tough question.
riversedge
(70,242 posts)I can't see joe voting Dem. IMHO.
BSdetect
(8,998 posts)frontman who has 1% more brain power than drumph.
progressoid
(49,991 posts)Cary
(11,746 posts)They are currently pointed in the right direction. They speak up for integrity. That falls short but it's better than the 35% to 40% who lack all notions of truth, justice and fairness.
brewens
(13,590 posts)he can make up for now.
Cary
(11,746 posts)The past is prologue. I will not be asking for anyone to make up for anything. Sure it would be nice but it seems to me to be a bridge too far.
Mika and Scar might up their game a little. I mean some of their regular guests, like Eugene Robinson, do expose them to higher levels. And too they are colleagues with Rachel and Lawrence.
tavernier
(12,392 posts)Cary
(11,746 posts)But lying us into a war is atrocious. Then there was torture. Then there was outing of Valerie Plame.
We could go on and on.
NRaleighLiberal
(60,015 posts)If no one watched...no advertisers....
Still TV free going on 10 years.
ananda
(28,866 posts)After a few seconds, the hypocrisy gets me too.
uponit7771
(90,347 posts)PatrickforO
(14,576 posts)intellectually since the days of Eisenhower.
brush
(53,784 posts)during the campaign.
Now they're so against the Frankenstein they helped create.
Ferrets are Cool
(21,107 posts)their own lies and misconceptions. They don't even understand the largess of their lies.
JHB
(37,160 posts)...built upon "fantasy and horseshit."
Ferrets are Cool
(21,107 posts)I like the idea of Unicorns having rainbow colored poop too.
RandomAccess
(5,210 posts)malaise
(269,044 posts)Rec