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Cary

(11,746 posts)
Wed Apr 4, 2018, 07:01 AM Apr 2018

Scarborough: going on and on about #fakepresident lies

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Then he has the nerve to talk about real conservatives in glowing terms. What was "supply-side economics?" How about the lies about the Clintons (murdering 30 plus people, Whitewater, Rose law firm billing, uranium, email,...). How about birtherism or Swiftboat lying? How about "creation science?" How about Willie Horton? Iran-Contra? The Southern strategy? Climate science denialism?

I merely scratch the surface of right wing lies and smears.

And now Scarborough acts as if #fakepresident is some kind of affront to "conservatism?" #fakepresident is not of Scarborough because #fakepresident lies?

"Conservatives" have been at war against the truth for 60 years. Leo Strauss advocated lying. Jude Wanniski, father of "supply-side economics," proffered the whole idea as a scam.

Look in the mirror, Scar. Your precious anti-intellectual ideology is responsible for #fakepresident. #fakepresident is a symptom of your own pathology, not a cause. You all are at war against the truth.

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Scarborough: going on and on about #fakepresident lies (Original Post) Cary Apr 2018 OP
Yes PatSeg Apr 2018 #1
watching this AM and almost upchucked at his "Bill Clinton lies" bullshit... Raster Apr 2018 #2
Scar was a tea partier before the tea partiers were tea partiers Cosmocat Apr 2018 #21
I watch occasionally because I like the guests... Raster Apr 2018 #24
That was when I changed channels nt Progressive dog Apr 2018 #35
He actually bashed Bill Clinton and called him a liar as well oberliner Apr 2018 #3
He only hates trump because leftynyc Apr 2018 #4
His show gave candidate Trump a HUGE boost going into the primaries. maddiemom Apr 2018 #7
I don't know that Cary Apr 2018 #9
I think the fact it's merely personal leftynyc Apr 2018 #10
Again I don't know Cary Apr 2018 #13
He is just wrong Cosmocat Apr 2018 #22
We tend to forget that although Joe is very critical of Trump, he is, in the end a Republican. riversedge Apr 2018 #27
He left the party leftynyc Apr 2018 #31
Yes, now that you mention it. I do think I read that a while ago. Still, riversedge Apr 2018 #33
He will never vote Democrat and will flock back to his repugnant roost as soon as they find a BSdetect Apr 2018 #5
Yeah, fuck him. Not that long ago, his show played along with candidate Trump and his antics. progressoid Apr 2018 #6
I feel like we can use them somehow Cary Apr 2018 #11
I heard him say deplorable, referring to Trump earlier. Nice, but Scabwhoreoh did more damage than brewens Apr 2018 #8
I'm satisfied with doing better going forward Cary Apr 2018 #12
And he never mentions DUBYA and the GREAT LIE. tavernier Apr 2018 #14
Good point I left that out of my abbreviated list Cary Apr 2018 #15
+1 dalton99a Apr 2018 #17
+1 uponit7771 Apr 2018 #18
+1 Raster Apr 2018 #25
False equivalence in the media is killing our country. Turn them all off! NRaleighLiberal Apr 2018 #16
I can't stand Scarborough. ananda Apr 2018 #19
K&R, Iraq lie, Bush and voter suppression doesn't shock his conscience but Trump does ?! uponit7771 Apr 2018 #20
That is true. Republicans have not been able to defend their positions morally or PatrickforO Apr 2018 #23
Not to mention all those hours of free air-time he and Miss Mika smoozed adoringly with trump... brush Apr 2018 #26
All conservatives live in a world built upon Ferrets are Cool Apr 2018 #28
I tend to use a more colorful description... JHB Apr 2018 #29
That works. Ferrets are Cool Apr 2018 #30
IMO, this is all one needs to know about conservatism: RandomAccess Apr 2018 #32
Great post malaise Apr 2018 #34

PatSeg

(47,496 posts)
1. Yes
Wed Apr 4, 2018, 07:28 AM
Apr 2018

Republicans have been lying and cheating to win for decades. That is how people like Roger Stone made a living. Trump in the White House is the end result of all those years of dishonest politics. I suppose it was inevitable.

Raster

(20,998 posts)
2. watching this AM and almost upchucked at his "Bill Clinton lies" bullshit...
Wed Apr 4, 2018, 07:41 AM
Apr 2018

...own it, Joe. Don't foist it off on the old Clinton boogyman or woman. In fact, JOE, Morning Joe would be better if you took an extended leave. Keep Mika, same guests, etc. Just NOT YOU JOE.

Cosmocat

(14,565 posts)
21. Scar was a tea partier before the tea partiers were tea partiers
Wed Apr 4, 2018, 09:18 AM
Apr 2018

I hate knocking people on our side, but lived through the 90s, and those assholes in congress were only a small fraction less worse than the current assholes, and Scarborough was one of the biggest douchebags of all.

I have tried repeatedly here and other places to get people to not watch that shitshow ... He is a snake and should be treated as such.

Raster

(20,998 posts)
24. I watch occasionally because I like the guests...
Wed Apr 4, 2018, 09:44 AM
Apr 2018

...and the supposed conversion to the anti-tRump* side. However, Joe Scar is Joe Scar. The main reason Joe Scar is anti-tRump* is that tRump* kicked Joe to the curb (as he usually does with everyone) and didn't come through with that cushy Cabinet position or Ambassador gig that was supposedly dangled in front of Joe's face.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
4. He only hates trump because
Wed Apr 4, 2018, 07:46 AM
Apr 2018

of the whole Mika face lift thing. Like seemingly ALL republicans, until it becomes personal, they're perfectly happy to ignore all the crap their party does so they can remain in power. I'm not impressed with either his or Mika's turnaround. It's so obviously for only personal reasons and those two did more than most to prop up the degenerate during the campaign.

maddiemom

(5,106 posts)
7. His show gave candidate Trump a HUGE boost going into the primaries.
Wed Apr 4, 2018, 08:00 AM
Apr 2018

Early on, the Orange One was calling in nearly daily. Well, whatever the reason, "better late than ever" with the criticism, I guess.

Cary

(11,746 posts)
9. I don't know that
Wed Apr 4, 2018, 08:15 AM
Apr 2018

I will not defend Mika and Scar but I don't know what motivates them or whether that matters so much. You may be correct; I honestly don't know.

Much of what they say is true and it is good they're saying it. But I stick with the metaphor of treating the symptom and not the underlying pathology. That's where I have a problem with Mika and Scar. They do not seem to me to be brave enough to own their own role in this as has been said here many times.

I would be willing to forgive but again they attack the symptom: #fakepresident. What's needed is a commitment to truth. I don't see them rising to that level.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
10. I think the fact it's merely personal
Wed Apr 4, 2018, 08:21 AM
Apr 2018

is written all over Mika's face every times she speaks of him. She's disgusted and it's been that way since he insulted her. I'll take it whenever the press finally decides they've had enough of propping up this degenerate but I'm not fooling myself into thinking it's for noble reasons.

Cosmocat

(14,565 posts)
22. He is just wrong
Wed Apr 4, 2018, 09:31 AM
Apr 2018

his/her petty vendetta against 45 rings exceedingly hallow when he goes on with his usual conservative tripe, the "middle america" bullshit drum beat he has been banging for decades which is what made 45 possible.

He was the prior incarnate of the current jackasses in congress, and should be viewed as the snake that he is.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
31. He left the party
Wed Apr 4, 2018, 10:39 AM
Apr 2018

but I'll never trust those two. They were pushing donnie from the primaries and I'll never forgive them for never asking him even one tough question.

riversedge

(70,242 posts)
33. Yes, now that you mention it. I do think I read that a while ago. Still,
Wed Apr 4, 2018, 01:10 PM
Apr 2018

I can't see joe voting Dem. IMHO.

BSdetect

(8,998 posts)
5. He will never vote Democrat and will flock back to his repugnant roost as soon as they find a
Wed Apr 4, 2018, 07:53 AM
Apr 2018

frontman who has 1% more brain power than drumph.

Cary

(11,746 posts)
11. I feel like we can use them somehow
Wed Apr 4, 2018, 08:27 AM
Apr 2018

They are currently pointed in the right direction. They speak up for integrity. That falls short but it's better than the 35% to 40% who lack all notions of truth, justice and fairness.

brewens

(13,590 posts)
8. I heard him say deplorable, referring to Trump earlier. Nice, but Scabwhoreoh did more damage than
Wed Apr 4, 2018, 08:07 AM
Apr 2018

he can make up for now.

Cary

(11,746 posts)
12. I'm satisfied with doing better going forward
Wed Apr 4, 2018, 08:30 AM
Apr 2018

The past is prologue. I will not be asking for anyone to make up for anything. Sure it would be nice but it seems to me to be a bridge too far.

Mika and Scar might up their game a little. I mean some of their regular guests, like Eugene Robinson, do expose them to higher levels. And too they are colleagues with Rachel and Lawrence.

Cary

(11,746 posts)
15. Good point I left that out of my abbreviated list
Wed Apr 4, 2018, 08:36 AM
Apr 2018

But lying us into a war is atrocious. Then there was torture. Then there was outing of Valerie Plame.

We could go on and on.

NRaleighLiberal

(60,015 posts)
16. False equivalence in the media is killing our country. Turn them all off!
Wed Apr 4, 2018, 08:57 AM
Apr 2018

If no one watched...no advertisers....

Still TV free going on 10 years.

PatrickforO

(14,576 posts)
23. That is true. Republicans have not been able to defend their positions morally or
Wed Apr 4, 2018, 09:42 AM
Apr 2018

intellectually since the days of Eisenhower.

brush

(53,784 posts)
26. Not to mention all those hours of free air-time he and Miss Mika smoozed adoringly with trump...
Wed Apr 4, 2018, 09:49 AM
Apr 2018

during the campaign.

Now they're so against the Frankenstein they helped create.

Ferrets are Cool

(21,107 posts)
28. All conservatives live in a world built upon
Wed Apr 4, 2018, 10:06 AM
Apr 2018

their own lies and misconceptions. They don't even understand the largess of their lies.

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