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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Wed Apr 4, 2018, 03:58 PM Apr 2018

DHS Sec: Trump To Deploy National Guard To Border 'Immediately'

By Kate Riga | April 4, 2018 3:49 pm

Secretary of Homeland Security Kirstjen Nielsen announced at the White House press briefing on Wednesday that the Trump administration intends to send members of the National Guard to bolster security at the United States’ southern border.

“The President has directed the Department of Defense and Department of Homeland Security to work together with the governors to deploy the National Guard to the southwest border to assist border patrol,” she said. “The President will be signing a proclamation to that effect today.”

She did not disclose how many troops would be sent, nor the cost of the endeavor, but asserted that they would be deployed “immediately.” She added that, at this point in the plan, the troops are intended to operate in a support, not enforcement, capacity.

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https://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/department-of-homeland-security-plans-to-deploy-national-guard-to-border

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DHS Sec: Trump To Deploy National Guard To Border 'Immediately' (Original Post) DonViejo Apr 2018 OP
And whatr exactly will they do once there? Binkie The Clown Apr 2018 #1
Exactly, standing around picking their noses with nothing to do when they have families and jobs stevenleser Apr 2018 #5
Sing songs of joy and peace? oberliner Apr 2018 #9
Trump may not know what he's doing, but you can be damned sure... 0rganism Apr 2018 #23
Along the California border with Mexico its hoyter than hell. onecaliberal Apr 2018 #2
The deplorables must be having a mixture of feelings meadowlark5 Apr 2018 #3
Unless a State is in an Emergency, Only the Governor of that state has this authority. berni_mccoy Apr 2018 #4
The law? The law you say? Proud Liberal Dem Apr 2018 #6
As I was so nicely corrected regarding state governor approval earlier..I will asiliveandbreathe Apr 2018 #7
Yes, I am aware. That provision was repealed in 2008 after unanimous protest from all 50 governors. berni_mccoy Apr 2018 #13
I don't think that is current law. Trying to figure this bullshit out. n/t rzemanfl Apr 2018 #14
Drumpf doesn't think about laws. I don't believe he thinks at all. rzemanfl Apr 2018 #11
Texass has Gov. Abbott...a trumpster. He'll go along. Luz Apr 2018 #29
that stupid fuck honestly believes there's a "caravan" coming, doesn't he?! pnwest Apr 2018 #8
A Huge Caravan Of Central Americans Is Headed For The US, And No One In Mexico Dares To Stop Them oberliner Apr 2018 #10
hell, that's what i get for skimming headlines when I'm working - pnwest Apr 2018 #24
It IS right-wing hysteria. John Fante Apr 2018 #26
Yep. Thousands and thousands of these, waiting to cross the border... Buns_of_Fire Apr 2018 #27
It is cheaper than a wall. sarah FAILIN Apr 2018 #12
It's for the base awesomerwb1 Apr 2018 #15
It's a double edged sword though. John Fante Apr 2018 #30
To keep people from leaving the US? nt OhZone Apr 2018 #16
I found this- rzemanfl Apr 2018 #17
This message was self-deleted by its author Freelancer Apr 2018 #18
Gotta wash socks. BBL. n/t rzemanfl Apr 2018 #20
it's the trump campaign paid for by republican and democratic taxpayers spanone Apr 2018 #19
I guess we worry about how to pay for it later gratuitous Apr 2018 #21
we'll see what Jerry Brown has to say about troops on his border spanone Apr 2018 #22
This will turn out well. smirkymonkey Apr 2018 #25
Trump is an idiot and this is a non-starter C_U_L8R Apr 2018 #28

Binkie The Clown

(7,911 posts)
1. And whatr exactly will they do once there?
Wed Apr 4, 2018, 04:01 PM
Apr 2018

Pitch tents and dig trenches? Set up checkpoints? March up and down the fence lines?

I don't think Trump has the slightest clue what the hell he's doing. There's going to be a lot of guardsmen standing around picking their noses with nothing to do.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
5. Exactly, standing around picking their noses with nothing to do when they have families and jobs
Wed Apr 4, 2018, 04:08 PM
Apr 2018

back where they live.

These folks did not join the Guard to be called up and deployed for stupidity.

meadowlark5

(2,795 posts)
3. The deplorables must be having a mixture of feelings
Wed Apr 4, 2018, 04:04 PM
Apr 2018

confidence that their supreme leader is doing so much to keep them safe - yet quite paranoid and frightened that a directive like this must mean there is an army of murderous illegals plotting to cross the border, killing and raping and stealing their jobs.

 

berni_mccoy

(23,018 posts)
4. Unless a State is in an Emergency, Only the Governor of that state has this authority.
Wed Apr 4, 2018, 04:04 PM
Apr 2018

According to current law.

asiliveandbreathe

(8,203 posts)
7. As I was so nicely corrected regarding state governor approval earlier..I will
Wed Apr 4, 2018, 04:09 PM
Apr 2018

share what I have learned...

A recent law, the John Warner National Defense Authorization Act of 2007, expanded the president’s authority to activate guard units, eliminating the need for approval from the state governor.

Who knew...

 

berni_mccoy

(23,018 posts)
13. Yes, I am aware. That provision was repealed in 2008 after unanimous protest from all 50 governors.
Wed Apr 4, 2018, 04:22 PM
Apr 2018
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H.R._5122_(2006)

In 2008, the National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2008 struck much of the existing text in section 1076

rzemanfl

(29,565 posts)
11. Drumpf doesn't think about laws. I don't believe he thinks at all.
Wed Apr 4, 2018, 04:11 PM
Apr 2018

I suppose he can federalize the National Guard. I would expect some states to resist/refuse and other Governors to kiss his orange anus.

pnwest

(3,266 posts)
24. hell, that's what i get for skimming headlines when I'm working -
Wed Apr 4, 2018, 07:03 PM
Apr 2018

I saw "caravan" and "trump" in a few headlines the other day and immediately wrote it off as RW hyserical propaganda. Didn't realize it was a thing......

Buns_of_Fire

(17,181 posts)
27. Yep. Thousands and thousands of these, waiting to cross the border...
Wed Apr 4, 2018, 07:35 PM
Apr 2018


Be afraid, Rumpo. Be very afraid.

sarah FAILIN

(2,857 posts)
12. It is cheaper than a wall.
Wed Apr 4, 2018, 04:19 PM
Apr 2018

This has been my carrot from day 1. Let the NG patrol and keep the talk of building the fiasco of a wall down to nothing till Trump is gone.

My dad was in NG over 30 years. He built the airports at the Panama Canal. He would have done a great job keeping the border roads hot.

awesomerwb1

(4,268 posts)
15. It's for the base
Wed Apr 4, 2018, 04:26 PM
Apr 2018

Now dump can lie about having stopped an invasion and since nobody in the right wing media will fact check him he'll be the "strong leader" who took matters into his own hands because the Democrats want open borders yadda yadda yadda.

John Fante

(3,479 posts)
30. It's a double edged sword though.
Wed Apr 4, 2018, 08:11 PM
Apr 2018

Thanks to this move by Gump, numerous pundits have pointed out that border apprehendions are at a 47-year low. The base may not be getting this information, but the other 70% of eligible voters are.

rzemanfl

(29,565 posts)
17. I found this-
Wed Apr 4, 2018, 04:28 PM
Apr 2018

10 U.S. Code § 12406 - National Guard in Federal service: call
US Code
Notes
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Whenever—
(1)the United States, or any of the Commonwealths or possessions, is invaded or is in danger of invasion by a foreign nation;
(2)there is a rebellion or danger of a rebellion against the authority of the Government of the United States; or
(3)the President is unable with the regular forces to execute the laws of the United States;
the President may call into Federal service members and units of the National Guard of any State in such numbers as he considers necessary to repel the invasion, suppress the rebellion, or execute those laws. Orders for these purposes shall be issued through the governors of the States or, in the case of the District of Columbia, through the commanding general of the National Guard of the District of Columbia.
(Added Pub. L. 103–337, div. A, title XVI, § 1662(f)(1), Oct. 5, 1994, 108 Stat. 2994; amended Pub. L. 109–163, div. A, title X, § 1057(a)(5), Jan. 6, 2006, 119 Stat. 3440.)

Response to DonViejo (Original post)

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
21. I guess we worry about how to pay for it later
Wed Apr 4, 2018, 05:12 PM
Apr 2018

At least the supply lines will be considerably shorter than they are for our occupying forces in Iraq and Afghanistan.

C_U_L8R

(45,003 posts)
28. Trump is an idiot and this is a non-starter
Wed Apr 4, 2018, 07:46 PM
Apr 2018

It's going nowhere without approval (and budget) from Congress and each state's Governor. I can hear Jerry Brown laughing at Trump clear across the country.

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