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spanone

(135,844 posts)
Wed Apr 4, 2018, 07:12 PM Apr 2018

Will Gov. Brown Deploy California National Guard To US-Mexico Border?

California Governor Jerry Brown has yet to issue an official response to a White House announcement that says it is working with governors to “immediately” deploy the National Guard to combat illegal immigration at the U.S.-Mexico border.

President Trump on Tuesday said he wants the military to secure the U.S.-Mexico border until his “big, beautiful wall” is erected. The White House later said Trump wanted to use National Guard troops.

But as of Wednesday afternoon, it was unclear whether Brown – a vocal critic of Trump and his administration – would be open to such a move.

Brown declined in 2014 to deploy National Guard troops to the Mexico border when Texas did so in response to an influx of immigrants.


http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2018/04/04/california-national-guard-border-troops/
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Will Gov. Brown Deploy California National Guard To US-Mexico Border? (Original Post) spanone Apr 2018 OP
No. Wellstone ruled Apr 2018 #1
He'd better not! BigmanPigman Apr 2018 #2
Are you kidding? Of course not. n/t Greybnk48 Apr 2018 #3
If he does he will probably send just a few mitch96 Apr 2018 #4
One option is to refuse, and force Trump to federalize the Cal State National Guard ... Hekate Apr 2018 #5
Yeah, but TomSlick Apr 2018 #6
I absolutely abhor the idea that Trump would do this... Hekate Apr 2018 #7

mitch96

(13,912 posts)
4. If he does he will probably send just a few
Wed Apr 4, 2018, 08:34 PM
Apr 2018

Just to say he complied.. That would piss off the orange stain!!
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Hekate

(90,714 posts)
5. One option is to refuse, and force Trump to federalize the Cal State National Guard ...
Wed Apr 4, 2018, 09:01 PM
Apr 2018

...the precedent being President Eisenhower's similar actions in order to integrate segregated schools.

In any case, Governor Brown need not accomodate Trump's odious (and arguably illegal) plan. But Trump may go ahead anyway.

TomSlick

(11,100 posts)
6. Yeah, but
Wed Apr 4, 2018, 11:44 PM
Apr 2018

if the National Guard is federalized, they are federal troops and subject to the Posse Comitatus Act and therefore prohibited from law enforcement activities. The justification for the use of federal troops to enforce enforcement of integration orders was the Enforcement Acts of 1870 and 1871 which would not be available to guard the border. Federalized National Guard troops could be used for intelligence, logistic, etc. support but could not detain people at the border.

The legal actions aside, the military is not trained for such missions. It would be a terrible use of already over-extended troops.

Hekate

(90,714 posts)
7. I absolutely abhor the idea that Trump would do this...
Thu Apr 5, 2018, 01:48 AM
Apr 2018

In the face of other people's speculations, I tried to imagine Gov Brown's possible response. In my estimation, Jerry Brown is a wise man with a lifetime of governmental experience -- whatever he decides to do will be based on that.

Trump, otoh, constantly proposes illegal activities, without the slightest idea that they are illegal. This is one of them.

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