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syringis

(5,101 posts)
Sun Apr 15, 2018, 05:12 AM Apr 2018

So Cohen never been to Prague... Let's see

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Please notice the proper lawyers' writing style...



This scares me : is Alzheimer contagious ? or is the WSJ lying ?

Wall Street Journal Jan.,11, 2017: Cohen told he hadn't been to Prague since 2001.

He tweeted a pic of an American passport as "proof".



Indeed, he has proven being graduated from the worst Law school in the US...

He said being in LA

He tweeted from Elisabeth, NJ.



I might be wrong, as far as I know, There is a few miles, +/- 3000, From NJ to CA...

This boy must have been gifted of ubiquity...

A little reminder : Prague is in the EU. That means only one stamp from any airport in EU is needed. Once he is inside, he can go where ever he wants without any formality...

Is it me ? I smell a fragrance of lie...

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Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
15. The McClatchy report was that he went through Germany, which is closer
Sun Apr 15, 2018, 01:12 PM
Apr 2018

Today's electoral-vote.com page has this paragraph on the subject:

It would be surprising if Mueller indeed had proof Cohen visited Prague. Cohen earlier this year showed his passport to journalists so they could verify there was no stamp from the Czech Republic in it. But if he flew from New York to Berlin and then took the bus or train from there to Prague (and paid for the ticket with cash), there would be no paper trail, especially if he went there and back the same day (a 4-hour trip each way) and didn't stay in a Prague hotel. Of course, if Cohen were sloppy and flew from Berlin to Prague, paid for the ticket with a credit card, and stayed overnight in a Prague hotel, there is a big paper trail. He was definitely in Rome in 2016 and could have gone to Prague anonymously by train or bus from there, although it would have taken 15 hours. It is also possible that Cohen has a second passport, which he denies. In addition, Cohen claimed to be in LA with his son in the summer of 2016. Mueller could check that out fairly easily by issuing a subpoena to the airlines that fly from NY to LA to see if he indeed made such a trip. If no such trip could be found, it wouldn't establish that Cohen was in Prague but it would establish that he is a liar.


I'm not sure that the concluding deduction is solid. Maybe he flew to Vegas to arrange a payoff to a showgirl, then rented a car and drove to Los Angeles. But it does seem that, given the EU's rules, he could have gotten to Prague without leaving a paper trail, simply by exercising a bit of caution.

unc70

(6,115 posts)
7. Naples to Prague less than two hours by air
Sun Apr 15, 2018, 07:41 AM
Apr 2018

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A private plane within Europe would leave little obvious evidence, particularly a flight to somewhere some distance from Prague.

Suppose Mueller could subpoena Google history for his phones and track him that way. Check out what Google has on each of us and on each of them.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/mar/28/all-the-data-facebook-google-has-on-you-privacy?utm_source=nextdraft&utm_medium=email

DFW

(54,415 posts)
8. A commercial flight is all you need
Sun Apr 15, 2018, 08:33 AM
Apr 2018

Both Italy and the Czech Republic are Schengen signatories. The means no border controls when traveling between the two. Flying any route between two Schengen countries means you don't see border controls anymore than you would on a fight from Atlanta to Dallas. Take a train and pay for your ticket in cash, and there is no trace at all you were there.

unc70

(6,115 posts)
9. No border controls, but some electronic trail as passenger
Sun Apr 15, 2018, 08:58 AM
Apr 2018

It is easy to be anonymous on the train and you can pay cash, but it takes a long time from Rome or Naples to anywhere close to Prague. Scheduled air travel leaves a lot more of a trail, mostly from the security concerns. Paying cash will get you flagged on a plane.

I suspect that hiding from the intelligence services has become really difficult given all technology and surveillance focused on terrorism.

I'm leaving in a few hours for Italy and in a week will fly to southern France because the train would take too long. Will be using TGV in France though, even with the strike.

You know a lot more about traveling around Europe.

DFW

(54,415 posts)
14. You can filter your plane ticket
Sun Apr 15, 2018, 12:59 PM
Apr 2018

Just buy it at a travel agent and pay cash to the travel agent instead of the airline, if that is a concern.

Italy now has hi-speed rail service, too, by the way, so unless you're way far south, you can make it to the south of France (depending on where, of course) in a few hours. About ten days ago, I had to make a spur-of-the moment trip from Paris to Frankfurt. I got the last train out, which left at 7 PM. This used to be an 8 or 9 hour trip. Now it takes four. When you count the airport time necessary, the train is probably faster.

It is possible to make Rome to Prague in a day without flying, but you had better get up early, because it's a 16.5 hour train trip.

unc70

(6,115 posts)
12. He likely would leave a related signature even then
Sun Apr 15, 2018, 09:27 AM
Apr 2018

As soon as he used the new phone, he would probably identify himself fairly quickly. Even his inactivity on the first phone would expose his activity enough to know to look for the second phone. Cohen is always on the phone; we've seen lots of video of him.

Cirque du So-What

(25,952 posts)
10. If Prague is like other cities in the EU
Sun Apr 15, 2018, 08:59 AM
Apr 2018

a good many street cameras would record the comings & goings at prominent meeting places.

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