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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsTrump has made big time enemies.
He has made enemies at the FBI, Justice Dept, the special council, congress, etc. These are patriots who are going to destroy Trump. Trump is not going to win. It's impossible.
Trump is one of the most hated sons of bitches in our countries history. His days are numbered.
dameatball
(7,399 posts)Kirk Lover
(3,608 posts)trashbag can thank his own damn self.
mucifer
(23,557 posts)until that is no longer true.
Scarsdale
(9,426 posts)How popular would a person have to be to be more popular than politicians, especially gop members.?
mercuryblues
(14,537 posts)(PPP) What do you have a higher opinion of
trump 28%
lice54%
lame54
(35,298 posts)Volaris
(10,273 posts)Most president's, I'd say no. But then, most of them haven't been outright traitorous criminals.
lame54
(35,298 posts)I'm not sharing your confidence
Volaris
(10,273 posts)Impeach first, convict in the Senate, and then charge with whatever crimes are appropriate after removal.
lame54
(35,298 posts)By a large #
That ain't happening
elocs
(22,590 posts)And in Ford-like fashion a President Pence will pardon Trump of everything he could ever be charged with if Trump were to resign.
Volaris
(10,273 posts)If Russia helped get the TICKET elected, then the TICKET needs to be removed. Hopefully (and I've read suggestions that this is the case) Mueller has evidence that will require only that outcome.
elocs
(22,590 posts)Reality sucks, but it is what it is.
Volaris
(10,273 posts)But drip drip drip...EVERY DAY TILL NOVEMBER, and with each ripple, our chances of control of both chambers go up.
djacq
(1,634 posts)Thats a lot of enemies.
Nitram
(22,840 posts)Vey stupid move. Very dangerous move.
Texin
(2,596 posts)No one of this disgusting, loathsome, traitorous, obscene, lying, cheating nature has EVER been able to sustainably maintain such a high flying profile for as long as this vile creature.
Corgigal
(9,291 posts)He just found out what number with those dollar signs made his problems go away. He thought everyone could be bought. Can't imagine that anyone couldn't be.
He isn't aware that some people do things for ethics and values. Gonna find out the hard way.
Kaleva
(36,317 posts)Unfit for office and unwilling to learn and adapt, he's trashed his own and his families reputation and legacy.
DemoTex
(25,400 posts).. his lifestyle will (suicide-by-fork). And Lifestyle is ahead by a furlong.
RandomAccess
(5,210 posts)bringing him down are relishing their tasks, this particular concept is NOT a good thing to promote.
I believe our law enforcement people and justice system are NOT doing this out of political spite. And that's the truth we should be promoting.
True Blue American
(17,988 posts)The only people I have any faith in is our FBI and Justice Department.
People like Trump flourish, but sooner or later they are brought down.
I know I sound like the 37TH Psalm, but I do believe this.
For the wicked shall flourish like the Green Bay 🌲. But do not fear,they will be brought down
Nasruddin
(754 posts)"Trump is one of the most hated sons of bitches in our countries history. His days are numbered."
Jefferson Davis, war hero, senator, and secretary of war, turned traitor and was
the president of the confederacy. He died at 81 after a business trip, 25 years after
the fall of said rebel state.
Aaron Burr, killer of Alexander Hamilton, former VP tried (but acquitted) for treason,
lived out the next 30-odd years of life quietly in NY.
If this is any indication, Mr Trump and co will be wearing beautiful gold-plated skates -
at the very worst.
PatSeg
(47,547 posts)how easily Trump throws people under the bus, even people who are avid supporters like Jeff Sessions. Then to make an enemy out of the intelligence community on top of the justice department, that is insanity. These people have unfathomable resources and Trump is giving them reason to use them. It is like he is daring them to take him down.
How dumb can one man be?
PatrickforO
(14,585 posts)in it.
That said, I really, really don't want to think he will be going down because he has made 'big-time enemies,' or that he is 'one of the most hated sons of bitches in our country's history.'
To me, that is this same 'deep state' theory that is being published on right wing websites, and propagated by other right wing propaganda channels.
Instead of that, let us think that:
Trump will go down because the people in the FBI, Justice, special council and congress have sworn oaths to protect the Constitution. Let us hope their loyalty is to this nation, and by extension we, the people, rather than merely that they are removing a sitting president, no matter how pathetic, because they are 'pissed' at him.
I hate to split hairs, but this is the way I see this OP.
Kablooie
(18,637 posts)One of the most maniacally worshipped assholes in our countrys history. His rubes are legend.
I wonder how they will react when he plummets into oblivion.
It would be nice if they just followed him.
Downtown Hound
(12,618 posts)And then quietly fade away. Mark my words. In a few years most of them will deny ever having supported Trump.
bitterross
(4,066 posts)elocs
(22,590 posts)The current FBI deputy director is Rod Rosenstein. Interesting.
BobTheSubgenius
(11,564 posts)I was totally gung-ho for prison, but now I'd be satisfied with complete asset forfeiture and exile. Preferably to an awful `-stan country` where it`s winter 60 months a year.
vi5
(13,305 posts)Even if the D's take the Senate it will be by such a small amount of 1 or 2 Senator's votes, that it will be easy enough for the Republicans to find the number of conservative (oh, I'm sorry....."bipartisan" Dems needed to neuter anything that needs to be done.
I'd like to be wrong but I don't see any individual or group with the fortitude and/or numbers needed to do what is needed to be done to damage Trump.
Va Lefty
(6,252 posts)best case scenario is we take back the House and Senate and stall his "agenda" till '20 or his rage causes him to stroke out.
vi5
(13,305 posts)...that Democrats will have the fortitude to completely stall his agenda as the Republicans did to the Dems.
The party is too in love with it's own "high road" I fear to do that.
I'm not saying he'll be able to get anything major through, but if there is a Supreme Court vacancy there is no doubt that Dems won't pull what the Republicans did. No way, no how.
All it takes is for a David Brooks or Chuck Todd type to "tsk-tsk" Dems on anything and enough of them will buckle like cheap belts to undercut any full party efforts.
vlyons
(10,252 posts)yes he is not only a vulgar criminal, but also a traitor.
onethatcares
(16,177 posts)on his final day?
I'd like a part of that action.
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)are taken down by the Agencies.
vlyons
(10,252 posts)After we take the House in Jan 19, Trump will probably be impeached by the House, but not convicted by the Senate. So he will be around for another 2 years to veto Dem legislation out of vengence, pass executive orders that stink and punish. But his wings will be clipped. He will posture and rant and continue to embarrass us and degrade the Presidency.
So after 2018, that is the time for our Dem stars to declare candidacy for Senate seats, governorships, and the WH. It will be a time to present a Dem vision for a domestic and international agenda. It will also be a time to emphasize civility, decency, integrity, and personal honor. Wouldn't that sound sweet for a change?
Trump's brand is trash. If his kids are facing criminal prosecution, it will be very difficult for them to ever get loans to play real estate. Plus there's all those NY, NJ, and VA state charges that are not going away.
Personally, I almost feel sorry for the lot of them. Wasted lives every one. Degenerate people ending in ignominy. With their privileges and assets, they could have lived virtuous lives and accomplished great things that were of benefit to others. But no, they chased after money, privilege, and fame.
Dan 1:28 - "Mene, mene, tekel, upharsin" - The handwriting on the wall at Belshazzar's feast. Roughly translated as Beshazzar's kingdom having been weighed and measured, it was found wanting, and thus given away Medes and Persians. The hand, having written, moves on.
Cha
(297,403 posts)Powerful enemies that IQ45 has made trying to hide his criminal, traitorous ugly self with Obstructing Justice.
Golden Raisin
(4,610 posts)Early on he went out of his way to badmouth and attack both the FBI and the CIA. That said, I have grave doubts that he's going to be stopped, even if Mueller eventually comes out with blockbuster evidence. The Republican Congress is complicit and has had Trump's back all along through every degradation and hammer-blow to the rule of law and our Democracy. Given how our election was mutilated and manipulated in 2016 I also have grave doubts that a 2018 "Blue Wave" won't also be sabotaged. Hope I'm wrong.