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IluvPitties

(3,181 posts)
Tue Apr 24, 2018, 11:10 AM Apr 2018

Given the great changes in the political landscape in the last decade...

How do you think the following 4 individuals would have fared politically if they ran for the Democratic nomination in 2016, or on the general election against Trump:

A) Mike Gravel
B) Howard Dean
C) Dennis Kucinich
D) John Edwards

I just sense their political fates would have been quite different in this day and age.

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Given the great changes in the political landscape in the last decade... (Original Post) IluvPitties Apr 2018 OP
Is today Democratic primary day? RandySF Apr 2018 #1
Haven't noticed. Just curious. IluvPitties Apr 2018 #2
Gravel, Kucinich & Edwards would all still fail spectacularly. dawg Apr 2018 #3
Dean's "Yeehaww" moment was seen by some as outrageous at the time. Now....it seems mild. dameatball Apr 2018 #4
Agree with dawg on Gravel, Kucinich and Edwards Va Lefty Apr 2018 #5

dawg

(10,624 posts)
3. Gravel, Kucinich & Edwards would all still fail spectacularly.
Tue Apr 24, 2018, 11:31 AM
Apr 2018

Democrats get crucified over matters for which Republicans are given a pass. (Not just Trump.)

That hasn't changed.

As for Dean, I still don't understand what happened to him. It made no sense to me at the time, and it makes no sense now.

dameatball

(7,397 posts)
4. Dean's "Yeehaww" moment was seen by some as outrageous at the time. Now....it seems mild.
Tue Apr 24, 2018, 11:59 AM
Apr 2018

Self control is no longer a prerequisite for being elected (sort of) President.

Va Lefty

(6,252 posts)
5. Agree with dawg on Gravel, Kucinich and Edwards
Tue Apr 24, 2018, 12:43 PM
Apr 2018

As for Dean, in '04 the were preparing to run against him as "The Gov. of the Socialist Republic of Vermont" (Rove). I suspect that would have been the plan in '16 as well. It probably would have resonated with much of their base the same way they have successfully demonized Nancy Pelosi and her "San Francisco values". How Dean would have faired in Mich., Wisc. and Penn. I don't know.

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