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Demovictory9

(32,456 posts)
Sun Apr 29, 2018, 07:44 AM Apr 2018

GOP said Obama wasn't born in America for 8 years. I dont give a crap about how Huckabee feels

when she's called out about her lying press conferences.

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If you’re more upset about a comedian teasing Sarah Huckabee Sanders about her makeup because it’s “making fun of appearance” than by 8 years of the GOP saying Obama was from Kenya “because of appearance,” YOU ARE PART OF THE PROBLEM. #WHCD

8:39 PM - 28 Apr 2018

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GOP said Obama wasn't born in America for 8 years. I dont give a crap about how Huckabee feels (Original Post) Demovictory9 Apr 2018 OP
"Why don't liberals fight back?" Blue_Adept Apr 2018 #1
Seriously Highway61 Apr 2018 #29
The usual litany is there Blue_Adept Apr 2018 #32
You are exactly right. Good PR requires some to go high, some low. sharedvalues Apr 2018 #43
Never thought of that Clarity2 Apr 2018 #51
Do you know what Going High means? lunatica Apr 2018 #53
Agreed! CrispyQ Apr 2018 #35
Yup. When are we going to FIGHT these bastards!? workinclasszero Apr 2018 #56
Trump's campaign born in Russia bucolic_frolic Apr 2018 #2
Your title is a good turn of phrase ... "campaign born in Russia". . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2018 #12
Someone told me bucolic_frolic Apr 2018 #22
+1 uponit7771 Apr 2018 #13
This Rorey Apr 2018 #19
Let's not forget sarge43 Apr 2018 #3
they still say Michelle is a man Demovictory9 Apr 2018 #5
You can thank Joan Rivers for starting that rumor n/t TexasBushwhacker Apr 2018 #40
You know, funny thing about that... Shipwack Apr 2018 #23
You're right. Today, they would have cheered. CrispyQ Apr 2018 #38
If Sarah Huckabee Sanders wants to lie her ass off every day TNNurse Apr 2018 #4
The CNN Chiron Should Say "Lying Deplorable Sarah Sanders" PaulX2 Apr 2018 #28
How can they dare to claim to be upset by that? treestar Apr 2018 #6
Hillary.s body..it was all fair game to them Demovictory9 Apr 2018 #7
She stands at her podium day after day deliberately lying to, and misleading the American public. -Steph- Apr 2018 #8
THIS Plus 1,000 Stinky The Clown Apr 2018 #9
But calling one out on her makeup isn't calling one out on lies whathehell Apr 2018 #10
yeah i agree... samnsara Apr 2018 #11
Thank you, yes.. whathehell Apr 2018 #14
It is sexist. As is if her being a paid liar and stooge isn't enough, to have to make fun of her.... marble falls Apr 2018 #16
This message was self-deleted by its author BannonsLiver Apr 2018 #66
Agreed mythology Apr 2018 #18
Yes.. whathehell Apr 2018 #24
Thank you for this. WAY too many DUers attack appearance. Childish BS. nt USALiberal Apr 2018 #26
You should read the joke/quote then Blue_Adept Apr 2018 #36
Most people were listening, not reading whathehell Apr 2018 #37
The makeup reference is considered a compliment KelleyKramer Apr 2018 #44
Yeah, and I acknowledgedd that several posts ago whathehell Apr 2018 #45
She is ok with the pussy grabbing birther so she shouldn't mind JI7 Apr 2018 #48
Huh?...What are you talking about -- Who is "she"? whathehell Apr 2018 #55
Lol..Nice try, but, as indicated, this conversation is over for me whathehell Apr 2018 #58
It takes ignoring the facts to defend Sarah Huckabee sanders JI7 Apr 2018 #59
Beating dead horses takes something similar whathehell Apr 2018 #60
SHS Bragged about how hard Trump hits back in response to his JI7 Apr 2018 #64
And keep in mind: dalton99a Apr 2018 #15
We need to remake those shirts kacekwl Apr 2018 #17
I'd buy and wear it. Nt. Amimnoch Apr 2018 #21
I didn't see it, but she couldn't have said anything worse that what trump has been saying... George II Apr 2018 #20
For Those Who Say... jaxind Apr 2018 #25
Everyone Watched How Orcs We're Hatched In Broods PaulX2 Apr 2018 #27
Does The Fact That When I See Lying Sarah I Want To Hurl PaulX2 Apr 2018 #30
Sanders is an evil person, but her makeup isn't. MrModerate Apr 2018 #31
Do you know the joke... tonedevil Apr 2018 #39
The OP didn't refer to any particular joke. n/t MrModerate Apr 2018 #46
You are addressing the makeup joke... tonedevil Apr 2018 #47
My comment was somewhat broader . . . MrModerate Apr 2018 #50
The color of her makeup... tonedevil Apr 2018 #54
It was regarded by the audience (and me, incidentally) . . . MrModerate Apr 2018 #62
You lose me completely... tonedevil Apr 2018 #63
Your analysis, regardless of its accuracy and meaninfulness . . . MrModerate Apr 2018 #65
Do you also think knock knock jokes are about doors? BannonsLiver Apr 2018 #67
Not usually, but then I always consider the context. n/t MrModerate Apr 2018 #68
Consider the context, except in this case, apparently. BannonsLiver May 2018 #70
to hell with huckster heaven05 Apr 2018 #33
It was liberal-nice of Al Franken 90-percent Apr 2018 #34
SHE DID NOT MAKE FUN OF SANDERS' APPEARANCE!!! TexasBushwhacker Apr 2018 #41
Agree - I wish they would STOP REPEATING THE LIE CakeGrrl Apr 2018 #42
Not only that malaise Apr 2018 #49
It's pretty pathetic to still see DUers defending poor wittle Sarah BannonsLiver Apr 2018 #52
Full transcript for DUers who want to know what they're talking about IronLionZion Apr 2018 #57
K&R Scurrilous Apr 2018 #61
He can do as says and go eat a Tide Pod. Initech Apr 2018 #69

Blue_Adept

(6,399 posts)
1. "Why don't liberals fight back?"
Sun Apr 29, 2018, 07:46 AM
Apr 2018

And when they do with some pretty sharp and mean things, we get all bothered and worried about it.

Highway61

(2,568 posts)
29. Seriously
Sun Apr 29, 2018, 09:48 AM
Apr 2018

Dems are "too nice". Bill Maher touches on this a lot. We need to get pissed off...really pissed off.

Blue_Adept

(6,399 posts)
32. The usual litany is there
Sun Apr 29, 2018, 10:03 AM
Apr 2018

We're better than that, we don't want to get into the muck with them, they go low, we go high.

And I'll agree to that when it comes to various actual politicians, particularly depending on their place. They shouldn't be crass and vulgar.

But they need to fight back. And the lower ranks and those not in office need to be blunt and better fighters. We used to have them back in the day.

sharedvalues

(6,916 posts)
43. You are exactly right. Good PR requires some to go high, some low.
Sun Apr 29, 2018, 08:49 PM
Apr 2018

The GOP figured this out decades ago. Before Trump took over their base by turning their propaganda techniques up to 11, they did this split well.

They use surrogates to sling dirt and go low. While the officeholders and figureheads go high. So Bush said “Mission Accomplished” and “compassionate conservatism” while GOP surrogates went on TV and called Dems unpatriotic and class warfare mavens and soft on terror.

It’s great for Barack and Michelle to go high. They are the visionaries and moral leaders. But liberals need surrogates who will state the truth (“Sanders is a liar”) even when it feels like that’s going low.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
53. Do you know what Going High means?
Mon Apr 30, 2018, 11:19 AM
Apr 2018

In short it means bringing the fight to a higher level, not running to hide under the bed.

Bringing truth, whether it’s pleasant or not, to a fight is actually Going High.

CrispyQ

(36,464 posts)
35. Agreed!
Sun Apr 29, 2018, 02:49 PM
Apr 2018

The GOP has dragged the country so far into the muck, & the dems/left are going to have to get dirty if we want to win this fight. The ratfuckers took the rule book & threw it in the trash. They are counting on the dems/left going high & if we do, we are going to lose the country.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
56. Yup. When are we going to FIGHT these bastards!?
Mon Apr 30, 2018, 12:43 PM
Apr 2018

Last edited Mon Apr 30, 2018, 04:17 PM - Edit history (1)

It makes me sick. F the damned republicans!

We need to be like the greatest democrat of all FDR! He threw their hate right back in their damned faces and changed this country in a profound way, much of which is still in effect today!



But we are too busy apologizing for calling these damn republicans what they are and tearing down and destroying some of out best voices because republicans won't like us

We don't have time to change this country like FDR, to busy sucking up to the MSM and the fuc**ng RNC!!!

bucolic_frolic

(43,161 posts)
2. Trump's campaign born in Russia
Sun Apr 29, 2018, 08:02 AM
Apr 2018

Last edited Sun Apr 29, 2018, 02:49 PM - Edit history (1)

Projection and distraction are their main tools

sarge43

(28,941 posts)
3. Let's not forget
Sun Apr 29, 2018, 08:07 AM
Apr 2018

Jabba the Hut Limbaugh's comparing twelve year old Chelsea Clinton to a dog.

Don't want shit; don't start shit, Snowflakes.

Shipwack

(2,162 posts)
23. You know, funny thing about that...
Sun Apr 29, 2018, 09:20 AM
Apr 2018

He said that in front of a studio audience, and they actually pushed back against that*, surprising both him and me.

He then immediately walked it back, blaming a staff member for the “mistake”.

*Nowadays, of course, they would have cheered, I think.

Edited to insert missing word.

CrispyQ

(36,464 posts)
38. You're right. Today, they would have cheered.
Sun Apr 29, 2018, 02:59 PM
Apr 2018

The media should have smacked Palin down when the GOP didn't. They are all to blame. Fuckers. They let her spout her hateful shit, working the bigots into a frenzy. They let that kind of rhetoric become acceptable in the public forum. Fuck them, every one. Palin should have been pulled from the ticket & when the GOP didn't' do that the media should have shamed her mercilessly. Fuck them all, over their whining that Wolf exposed them for the cowards & sellouts that they are.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
6. How can they dare to claim to be upset by that?
Sun Apr 29, 2018, 08:15 AM
Apr 2018

They make fun of a woman's appearance first thing. What snowflakes!

-Steph-

(409 posts)
8. She stands at her podium day after day deliberately lying to, and misleading the American public.
Sun Apr 29, 2018, 08:17 AM
Apr 2018

She's made it her personal mission to defend the master of personal insults and low-blows. She doesn't do it because she needs the money or job, she was already rich. She just enjoys it. I'm not offended that someone said her smokey eye shadow was made from the ashes of her lies. I'm offended that many of the same people having this faux outrage are completely comfortable supporting a racist, misogynistic, criminal that is destroying the very fabric of this country with the help of our enemies and people like Sarah Huckabee Sanders.

whathehell

(29,067 posts)
10. But calling one out on her makeup isn't calling one out on lies
Sun Apr 29, 2018, 08:23 AM
Apr 2018

They're obviously different things. Calling someone out on lies is legitimate -- Taking shots at her appearance is just sad, desperate stuff.

samnsara

(17,622 posts)
11. yeah i agree...
Sun Apr 29, 2018, 08:28 AM
Apr 2018

..ppl made fun if her being frumpy now make fun of her being glammed. lets stick with her behavior.

marble falls

(57,081 posts)
16. It is sexist. As is if her being a paid liar and stooge isn't enough, to have to make fun of her....
Sun Apr 29, 2018, 08:47 AM
Apr 2018

appearance is at best childish, mean and bully-ish behavior.

Response to samnsara (Reply #11)

Blue_Adept

(6,399 posts)
36. You should read the joke/quote then
Sun Apr 29, 2018, 02:53 PM
Apr 2018

Because it was in no way a shot at her appearance.

If it had been done up as an editorial cartoon it would have been lauded as a fantastic piece here.

whathehell

(29,067 posts)
37. Most people were listening, not reading
Sun Apr 29, 2018, 02:57 PM
Apr 2018

but since this is my third post admitting the possibility of a mistake, I'm sure we don't need to belabor the point.

KelleyKramer

(8,960 posts)
44. The makeup reference is considered a compliment
Mon Apr 30, 2018, 03:06 AM
Apr 2018

A 'smokey eye' is considered to be perfect

And there is no 'maybe' about it

whathehell

(29,067 posts)
58. Lol..Nice try, but, as indicated, this conversation is over for me
Mon Apr 30, 2018, 01:27 PM
Apr 2018

Now I'm sorry if this disappoints you, but you may just have to find someone else to bait with the "pussy grabbing birther" routine, okay? Buh bye now.

kacekwl

(7,017 posts)
17. We need to remake those shirts
Sun Apr 29, 2018, 09:01 AM
Apr 2018

Fuck your feelings on top , trump below and in small print and your little dog Sarah.

George II

(67,782 posts)
20. I didn't see it, but she couldn't have said anything worse that what trump has been saying...
Sun Apr 29, 2018, 09:16 AM
Apr 2018

....about people for years. We can start with "Crooked Hillary".

jaxind

(1,074 posts)
25. For Those Who Say...
Sun Apr 29, 2018, 09:30 AM
Apr 2018

For those who say making fun of Sanders' make-up is hitting below the belt, well maybe it is, but then how come the goddamn President could get away about making fun of Ted Cruz's wife's face??! I think that may have been before tRUMP was actually President, so for anyone that wants to use that defense and say, "That was before tRUMP was President" well, I say to them, "Well, Michelle Wolf isn't the President either!!"

 

PaulX2

(2,032 posts)
27. Everyone Watched How Orcs We're Hatched In Broods
Sun Apr 29, 2018, 09:42 AM
Apr 2018

Underground in Lord Of The Rings. Glad we cleared that up.

 

PaulX2

(2,032 posts)
30. Does The Fact That When I See Lying Sarah I Want To Hurl
Sun Apr 29, 2018, 09:54 AM
Apr 2018

Mean I am commenting on her appearance? Maybe it is something she said.

I have to immediately change the channel when her or Trump come on the teevee. After a few seconds I feel ill.

 

MrModerate

(9,753 posts)
31. Sanders is an evil person, but her makeup isn't.
Sun Apr 29, 2018, 09:59 AM
Apr 2018

We should try to focus, even when we're roasting someone. Historically, attacks on one's appearance are much more frequently directed at women, and are especially illegitimate for that reason.

 

tonedevil

(3,022 posts)
39. Do you know the joke...
Sun Apr 29, 2018, 03:27 PM
Apr 2018

that is being discussed? I suspect not as your comment doesn't address it at all.

 

MrModerate

(9,753 posts)
50. My comment was somewhat broader . . .
Mon Apr 30, 2018, 11:06 AM
Apr 2018

Digs about the content of Sanders' character are just fine, and a target-rich environment to boot; comments about the color of her makeup (pop culture references notwithstanding) cross the line.

And you could see it in the room. The entire audience cringed during Wolf's Sanders segment. It took her several minutes to get them back.

 

tonedevil

(3,022 posts)
54. The color of her makeup...
Mon Apr 30, 2018, 11:45 AM
Apr 2018

comes from her burning facts and using the resulting ash as an eye shadow. That is not an appearance joke that is a SHS is a liar joke.

 

tonedevil

(3,022 posts)
63. You lose me completely...
Mon Apr 30, 2018, 06:53 PM
Apr 2018

if you are going to use the WHCD audience as arbiters of joke content and acceptability. The reporters, who were skewered in the same routine, are a pack of sycophants who are willing to do overlook anything donald says or does as long a they can get "access" to him. While the joke does make reference to makeup which is related to appearance the punch line makes it very clear what the joke is about. Maybe she's born with it maybe it's the lies. If that's how you define an appearance joke then your bar is so low that there are some appearance jokes I think are acceptable.

 

MrModerate

(9,753 posts)
65. Your analysis, regardless of its accuracy and meaninfulness . . .
Mon Apr 30, 2018, 09:03 PM
Apr 2018

Was clearly not shared by the large audience. So there's that.

90-percent

(6,829 posts)
34. It was liberal-nice of Al Franken
Sun Apr 29, 2018, 10:20 AM
Apr 2018

to resign his Senate Seat merely because he was strategically attacked by Roger Stone and his internet innuendo minions.

Now we lefties (and our fading twilight of Democracy) are bereft of one of the most courageous Wellstone Democrats of at least the last thirty years! Smartest, most well prepared, most articulate Senator we could hope for and THE BAD PEOPLE WON..........again.

Go grab some pussy out there for fun, Al. You deserve some sleazy sexist relaxation after all you've been through! The world has to be teeming with ex-dem-senator groupies! I'll paypal you $50 myself, Al, if you make S.H. Sanders pussy grabbin' job one!

-90% Jimmy

For the record, all the pussy grabbin' of my 64 year old life has generally been respectful and consensual. Even during the many blackout drunks of my youth up to my interlock install of Jan 2016-Mar 2018. Oh yeah, almost forgot. My wife of 25 years died Oct 2013 from alcoholism, albeit indirectly.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,188 posts)
41. SHE DID NOT MAKE FUN OF SANDERS' APPEARANCE!!!
Sun Apr 29, 2018, 07:52 PM
Apr 2018

She said Sanders' creates the "perfect" smokey eye from the ashes of burned facts.

CakeGrrl

(10,611 posts)
42. Agree - I wish they would STOP REPEATING THE LIE
Sun Apr 29, 2018, 08:39 PM
Apr 2018

Wolf complimented Sanders' makeup.

She poked fun of the CONTENT of the makeup.

She explained this to the idiot media types trying to defend Huckabee Sanders.

BannonsLiver

(16,387 posts)
52. It's pretty pathetic to still see DUers defending poor wittle Sarah
Mon Apr 30, 2018, 11:17 AM
Apr 2018

Her looks, her appearance, her lies, he tone of voice are ALL FAIR GAME. Wake up, these people are fascists. If they had their way you'd be living behind razor wire, or worse. And you're worried about her fucking feelings?

IronLionZion

(45,442 posts)
57. Full transcript for DUers who want to know what they're talking about
Mon Apr 30, 2018, 12:53 PM
Apr 2018

And, of course, we have Sarah Huckabee Sanders. We're graced with Sarah's presence tonight. I have to say I'm a little star-struck. I love you as Aunt Lydia in “The Handmaid's Tale.”

Mike Pence, if you haven't seen it, you would love it.

Every time Sarah steps up to the podium, I get excited because I'm not really sure what we're going to get: you know, a press briefing, a bunch of lies or divided into softball teams. “It's shirts and skins, and this time, don't be such a little b----, Jim Acosta.”

I actually really like Sarah. I think she's very resourceful. Like, she burns facts, and then she uses the ash to create a perfect smoky eye. Like, maybe she's born with it; maybe it's lies.

It's probably lies.

And I'm never really sure what to call Sarah Huckabee Sanders. You know, is it Sarah Sanders? Is Sarah Huckabee Sanders? Is it Cousin Huckabee? Is it Auntie Huckabee Sanders? Like, what's Uncle Tom but for white women who disappoint other white women? Oh, I know: Aunt Coulter.


Full transcript here: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2018/04/29/michelle-wolfs-caustic-comedy-routine-at-the-white-house-correspondents-dinner-annotated/?utm_term=.a2a0cc9b0968

There are videos on Youtube with the whole speech. Not hard to find for anyone who want to know the truth.

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