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ck4829

(35,069 posts)
Thu May 3, 2018, 11:12 AM May 2018

K&R if you're NOT going to turn on Robert Mueller if he were to 'go after' Ivanka

While defending President Donald Trump’s daughter and senior adviser Ivanka Trump, President Trump’s lawyer also took a swipe at her husband, Jared Kushner.

During an interview with Sean Hannity on Wednesday evening, Rudy Giuliani said the “whole country would turn” on special counsel Robert Mueller if he “went after” Ivanka Trump as part of his probe into Russian meddling in the 2016 election. But Kushner? Not so much.


https://www.democraticunderground.com/10142051467

Uh, yeah, Mr. Noun-Verb-9/11, I'm good. I'm not going to raise a pitchfork in defense of Ivanka. I've got better things to do.
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K&R if you're NOT going to turn on Robert Mueller if he were to 'go after' Ivanka (Original Post) ck4829 May 2018 OP
K&R CatMor May 2018 #1
Turn on him? LOL. Downtown Hound May 2018 #2
:) So ridiculous, I'm wondering about the OP itself. Hortensis May 2018 #119
K&R. n/t rzemanfl May 2018 #3
If she's broken any laws, have at it, Mr Mueller. n/t malthaussen May 2018 #4
Everybody that supported RUMP in his illegal victory should be ... SWBTATTReg May 2018 #5
They Can Have Her Stallion May 2018 #6
Why wouldn't he? Ivanka and her husband are Greybnk48 May 2018 #7
I think she's Mueller's trump card, so to speak. CrispyQ May 2018 #8
Like Thanos TNLib May 2018 #24
K&R lisa58 May 2018 #9
Sorry Ivanka... Kittycow May 2018 #10
Amen to that. Scarsdale May 2018 #100
+1000 smirkymonkey May 2018 #105
K&R Gothmog May 2018 #11
I'm hoping it'll be the NY AG that really goes after her ehrnst May 2018 #12
Yes, that may happen dameatball May 2018 #22
Giuclowny is a dope. OriginalGeek May 2018 #13
"Giuclowny." Good one! nt ecstatic May 2018 #131
If Mueller goes after Ivanka, it will make me love him even more. SunSeeker May 2018 #14
same here gopiscrap May 2018 #15
me too. LiberalLovinLug May 2018 #49
Yeah, I'm crushin' on him, too. My crush will expand if he sprinkleeninow May 2018 #117
"Crushin on him".... Heartstrings May 2018 #122
Hey girl! If ya don't care to share, I'll take Adam or Eric! 😋😍 sprinkleeninow May 2018 #142
Might mean he's near the end GopherGal May 2018 #134
K&R wryter2000 May 2018 #16
Turn on Mueller?? Grammy23 May 2018 #17
Amen!!!!!!!!!!!!! avebury May 2018 #28
Will you promise to make that nomination for the Novel Peace Prize before the nomination deadline? politicaljunkie41910 May 2018 #94
K&R! gademocrat7 May 2018 #18
A mercenary treason weasel at that. calimary May 2018 #118
These rich Republicans live in a bubble world. C Moon May 2018 #19
Nah irisblue May 2018 #20
Kick and Rec...n/t bluecollar2 May 2018 #21
K&R for justice meow2u3 May 2018 #23
Her and Sater jaxind May 2018 #25
I would be cheering Mueller on! K&R avebury May 2018 #26
K&R 10000 times BlueJac May 2018 #27
If she broke laws or colluded with the Russians (treason) usaf-vet May 2018 #29
Kicketty Kickin' Faux pas May 2018 #30
"whole country would turn" SamKnause May 2018 #31
K&R atreides1 May 2018 #32
K&R FiveGoodMen May 2018 #33
K&R n/t Oldtimeralso May 2018 #34
Ivanka is not above the law. emulatorloo May 2018 #35
She breaks it. LisaM May 2018 #42
Yeah, K&R. dchill May 2018 #36
K&R Sedona May 2018 #37
So Mueller probe exists by public approval? HopeAgain May 2018 #38
K&R x 130,000, ck!! Leghorn21 May 2018 #39
Seriously, there are people who would defend Ivanka? LisaM May 2018 #40
There are women who have gotten plastic... 3catwoman3 May 2018 #116
That only makes sense. After all, Ivanka got plastic surgery to look like Ivanka, too. catbyte May 2018 #121
K&R mcar May 2018 #41
Hey, if little girl is a criminal, go for it full speed. lark May 2018 #43
K & R ! Lifelong Protester May 2018 #44
You're going to hate this, but dumdrum May 2018 #45
That's exactly what's going on RandomAccess May 2018 #47
WTF do you think is going on? marble falls May 2018 #86
I'm gonna turn on him if he DOESN'T RandomAccess May 2018 #46
K n r Sucha NastyWoman May 2018 #48
K&R happily Butterflylady May 2018 #50
Not me. I believe in the truth of karma vlyons May 2018 #51
On what planet is Ivanka universally beloved?? John Fante May 2018 #52
Thinking the same thing. A noticeable absence of her and her hubby lately. nature-lover May 2018 #79
They're plotting an escape to St. Petersburg. TheBlackAdder May 2018 #89
That would be fitting. No one can drink the water there Rhiannon12866 May 2018 #114
I forgot, Russia has been purging Jewish people from the country. How would that work? TheBlackAdder May 2018 #130
Burn them all down! paleotn May 2018 #53
Hell, I'll kick in on the gift basket. nolabear May 2018 #54
Why is she exempt? louis c May 2018 #55
K & R Wwcd May 2018 #56
Why would I do something that stupid? n/t kag May 2018 #57
Trump's handmaid's deserve no protection. Amimnoch May 2018 #58
To many. sheshe2 May 2018 #78
Ivanka is Donald but with better makeup and hair. FM123 May 2018 #59
Turn on him? GoCubsGo May 2018 #60
K&r!!! Takket May 2018 #61
kick yortsed snacilbuper May 2018 #62
K&R. I want to see her greeted with a crowd chanting "Lock Her UP!" lunamagica May 2018 #63
You beat me to it Luna! Glamrock May 2018 #65
Yes they do! Oh, tosee her like that would be just perfect, because she is a criminal and deserves lunamagica May 2018 #66
Agreed! Glamrock May 2018 #67
K&R hwmnbn May 2018 #64
K & KICKIN' R! raven mad May 2018 #68
Ivanka is not as well liked as Trump thinks. Sophia4 May 2018 #69
I might throw him a parade. sinkingfeeling May 2018 #70
K&R and I vote to imprison them ALL ... from the orange shit-gibbon down! (n/t) Moostache May 2018 #71
K & R displacedtexan May 2018 #72
Note to sexist Republicans: spooky3 May 2018 #73
Ghoullani must be huffing glue workinclasszero May 2018 #74
Throw the entire bunch in the pen. n/t D23MIURG23 May 2018 #75
K&R nt CelticWinter May 2018 #76
Do not pass go, do not collect 200 million dollars. Afromania May 2018 #77
The RWNJs wouldn't hold back on Chelsea Clinton. House of Roberts May 2018 #80
whole country would turn if Mueller went for Ivanka... Raster May 2018 #81
K&R cp May 2018 #82
K&R! n/t Different Drummer May 2018 #83
K&R Cary May 2018 #84
K&R bluestarone May 2018 #85
K&R NastyRiffraff May 2018 #87
K&R. I wonder what Ivanka looks like crying, as her mom takes custody of her kids. TheBlackAdder May 2018 #88
K&R The Wizard May 2018 #90
Lock her up! XRubicon May 2018 #91
K&R DippyDem May 2018 #92
K to the R! Ligyron May 2018 #93
K & R thucythucy May 2018 #95
K&R mvd May 2018 #96
Just Think ... DoctorJoJo May 2018 #97
No. He needs to go where the evidence takes him. Doesn't sound like she's very swift, though. Honeycombe8 May 2018 #98
Kick. n/t CousinIT May 2018 #99
LOL. I think Giuliani is going for gallantry here... hay rick May 2018 #101
K & R 50 Shades Of Blue May 2018 #102
I will applaud him!!!! jrthin May 2018 #103
Pretty, rich, blonde princesses are not immune from law. DangerousRhythm May 2018 #104
Hardly anyone objected to Michelle Wolf saying Ivanka is "full of shit" on the inside muriel_volestrangler May 2018 #106
Good point nt spooky3 May 2018 #113
Oh yes, I would be SO horrified if that were to happen... regnaD kciN May 2018 #107
Ivanka is not just a private person anymore... She is/was an administration official. keithbvadu2 May 2018 #108
That decrepit old fool. BobTheSubgenius May 2018 #109
What is this "K&R if" BS? A new way to get attention? Nitram May 2018 #110
Kick'd And rec'd lunatica May 2018 #111
Turn on him? What the F for? I'll be more upset if he doesn't. bitterross May 2018 #112
If he has reason to believe she broke the law, then he should go where the investigation goes. musicblind May 2018 #115
Hmmm... catbyte May 2018 #120
Trying to say she's above the law duforsure May 2018 #123
I might chuckle a bit. Mc Mike May 2018 #124
K and R - Ivanka's on the WH Staff - She's subject to legitimate questioning! IndianaDave May 2018 #125
K&R Sunsky May 2018 #126
I welcome that criminal fake woman's rights complete loser's prosecution and a number of years Demsrule86 May 2018 #127
Go get'er, Bob! MarianJack May 2018 #128
TURN on him? mnmoderatedem May 2018 #129
K&R! Trueblue Texan May 2018 #132
Judge, her plastic surgery makes her too pretty for jail Generic Other May 2018 #133
you mean 'going after' truth and justice? I'm in! TalenaGor May 2018 #135
She's in on zentrum May 2018 #136
K&R. Ivanka's up to her fuckin' eyeballs in all this. DinahMoeHum May 2018 #137
K&R onecent May 2018 #138
K&R rock May 2018 #139
Rudy lives in the dirty old man world where hot babes get away with stuff RhodeIslandOne May 2018 #140
Princess Ivanka.... NOT Still In Wisconsin May 2018 #141

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
119. :) So ridiculous, I'm wondering about the OP itself.
Fri May 4, 2018, 03:37 AM
May 2018

Who's spreading the idea that this even COULD happen on the left, and why? Besides the GOP, their dark-money masters, rightwing media, and the Kremlin, of course.

I've read in Politico that Mueller is probably staying away from Ivanka as a “don’t poke the bear until you have to” strategy, "trying to interview Ivanka Trump would be like lighting a match to the highly combustible Donald Trump,...”

Not because she isn't known to have engaged in criminal behavior in business before 2016 and to have been present, and perhaps actively involved, during events under investigation.

SWBTATTReg

(22,114 posts)
5. Everybody that supported RUMP in his illegal victory should be ...
Thu May 3, 2018, 11:19 AM
May 2018

fully investigated and prosecuted if any laws were broken. I guarantee you this, that they knew w/ all of the lawyers they have around RUMP (a swamp, believe me), that they were breaking the law/did break the law.

Greybnk48

(10,167 posts)
7. Why wouldn't he? Ivanka and her husband are
Thu May 3, 2018, 11:21 AM
May 2018

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both part of the Trump syndicate and have no special privileges. She's not a child, ffs. She's 36, almost 37. And she's not beloved by all. She's as big a crook as the rest of them and Giuliani is as ridiculous as ever!

CrispyQ

(36,461 posts)
8. I think she's Mueller's trump card, so to speak.
Thu May 3, 2018, 11:25 AM
May 2018

I believe that Ivanka is the only other person on the planet that the Con cares even a tiny smidgen for. Still, he'd throw her under the bus too, to save his own skin.

Kittycow

(2,396 posts)
10. Sorry Ivanka...
Thu May 3, 2018, 11:32 AM
May 2018

Americans don't worship you as Royalty the way you get your ass kissed in Japan

Most of the United States would be cheering if you were held accountable for your malfeasance!

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
100. Amen to that.
Thu May 3, 2018, 07:45 PM
May 2018

Ivanka is neither "beautiful" or "bright" as her daddy claims she is. She looks like a plastic blow up sex doll, with that tRump ugly mouth.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
105. +1000
Thu May 3, 2018, 08:17 PM
May 2018

I don't think this family or anyone in this administration understands exactly how widely and deeply they are hated. They seem to believe that their own personal experiences and opinions are universal.

GopherGal

(2,008 posts)
134. Might mean he's near the end
Fri May 4, 2018, 08:36 AM
May 2018

If Mueller has anything on Princess Ivanka, he's gotta hold those cards until the end. Overtly going after daddy's little girl might trigger his firing, so he'd want to have as much as he can get in the hands of pardon-proof state prosecutors by then.

Grammy23

(5,810 posts)
17. Turn on Mueller??
Thu May 3, 2018, 12:57 PM
May 2018

I might nominate him for the Nobel prize. An academy award. A Tony. Time’s Person of the Year. Put him on the cover of The Rolling Stone.

But let’s sing his praises! Hallelujah! Can I get an Amen?

politicaljunkie41910

(3,335 posts)
94. Will you promise to make that nomination for the Novel Peace Prize before the nomination deadline?
Thu May 3, 2018, 06:57 PM
May 2018

Pinky swear???

calimary

(81,220 posts)
118. A mercenary treason weasel at that.
Fri May 4, 2018, 03:28 AM
May 2018

NO, I will NOT turn my back on Robert Mueller. If he puts her in the hot seat, I'd figure he has a legitimate reason to do so.

C Moon

(12,212 posts)
19. These rich Republicans live in a bubble world.
Thu May 3, 2018, 01:01 PM
May 2018

They have no idea how much the majority of the country hates that family.
I'm even seeing ads on tv for Republican candidates, proclaiming their loyalty to Trump (and this is in California).

jaxind

(1,074 posts)
25. Her and Sater
Thu May 3, 2018, 01:30 PM
May 2018

I am sure Ivanka's tied up to Felix Sater and money laundering so why wouldn't I want Mueller to go after Ivanka!

usaf-vet

(6,181 posts)
29. If she broke laws or colluded with the Russians (treason)
Thu May 3, 2018, 01:35 PM
May 2018

Why should she get a break. IMO pretty and white is not a standard to protect you from the law. Of course she could negotiate a deal for flipping on daddy. Trump will throw her under the bus if he needs to.

HopeAgain

(4,407 posts)
38. So Mueller probe exists by public approval?
Thu May 3, 2018, 01:44 PM
May 2018

The Special Counsel has to be popular to enforce the laws and carry out justice? How did this clown ever get to be a U.S. District Attorney?

LisaM

(27,805 posts)
40. Seriously, there are people who would defend Ivanka?
Thu May 3, 2018, 01:47 PM
May 2018

Sigh.

I'd pick Melania over her, and I can't stand Melania.

catbyte

(34,376 posts)
121. That only makes sense. After all, Ivanka got plastic surgery to look like Ivanka, too.
Fri May 4, 2018, 03:59 AM
May 2018

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lark

(23,097 posts)
43. Hey, if little girl is a criminal, go for it full speed.
Thu May 3, 2018, 01:50 PM
May 2018

She sure seems like a criminal grifter and it is in her bad genes after all.

dumdrum

(16 posts)
45. You're going to hate this, but
Thu May 3, 2018, 01:52 PM
May 2018

What if we don't go after anyone.
How about a thorough, unimpeted look at everything that's going on, and when someone pop's up with shit on their shoes stinkin' up the place, do what the law says.
This isn't a witch hunt

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
51. Not me. I believe in the truth of karma
Thu May 3, 2018, 02:01 PM
May 2018

We create our reality every single day, and reap the products of our actions. Karma is just like gravity. It never stops working.

nature-lover

(1,469 posts)
79. Thinking the same thing. A noticeable absence of her and her hubby lately.
Thu May 3, 2018, 05:39 PM
May 2018

Hope they have slithered back to NY.

Rhiannon12866

(205,250 posts)
114. That would be fitting. No one can drink the water there
Thu May 3, 2018, 11:12 PM
May 2018

Unless they were actually born there, even fellow Russians can't drink it.

 

louis c

(8,652 posts)
55. Why is she exempt?
Thu May 3, 2018, 02:10 PM
May 2018

Of course she should do time.

LOCK HER UP!!!

A little different meaning than when the deplorables say it.

 

Amimnoch

(4,558 posts)
58. Trump's handmaid's deserve no protection.
Thu May 3, 2018, 02:20 PM
May 2018


On a side note, I'd read that book when it came out during the Reagan years. As much as I did not like Reagan as president, I never really felt any critical anxiety from the book. It "felt" like fiction that really wasn't terribly plausible. I recently watched the first season on Netflix, and I must admit.. With the current administration, and the way they seem to be headed it really no longer feels all that far-fetched and implausible a possibility.

While watching it and wanting to both cry and scream, I couldn't help but wonder.. just how many 45 supporters watched it and thought to themselves "this is the way 'merika should be!"

sheshe2

(83,748 posts)
78. To many.
Thu May 3, 2018, 05:36 PM
May 2018
While watching it and wanting to both cry and scream, I couldn't help but wonder.. just how many 45 supporters watched it and thought to themselves "this is the way 'merika should be!"


Unfortunately.

lunamagica

(9,967 posts)
66. Yes they do! Oh, tosee her like that would be just perfect, because she is a criminal and deserves
Thu May 3, 2018, 03:29 PM
May 2018

it!

Glamrock

(11,795 posts)
67. Agreed!
Thu May 3, 2018, 03:34 PM
May 2018

Lock him/her up should be every liberal's response on twitter, Facebook, and the public square to every utterance put forth by conservatives! Rub their faces in it.

 

Sophia4

(3,515 posts)
69. Ivanka is not as well liked as Trump thinks.
Thu May 3, 2018, 03:56 PM
May 2018

Let the chips fall where they may.

Maybe this matter will finally result in some prison reform as these very wealthy people think about what it would be like to have to live there for a few years.

spooky3

(34,442 posts)
73. Note to sexist Republicans:
Thu May 3, 2018, 04:55 PM
May 2018

1) Being non-sexist or feminist means that you do NOT treat women differently from how you would treat men in the same situation. Being a "benevolent" sexist is still being a sexist. And I don't believe for a minute that Giuliani is benevolent. He is just grasping at straws to deflect.

2) #1 means that criticizing Ivanka Trump's bad behavior, or Sarah Huckabee's lying, etc., is NOT sexist, unless you would give a pass to Sean Spicer, etc. I recall Spicer's being criticized (and beautifully mocked on SNL). Therefore, THEY ARE FAIR GAME.

See Professor Samantha Bee's latest show for further explanation.

Raster

(20,998 posts)
81. whole country would turn if Mueller went for Ivanka...
Thu May 3, 2018, 06:01 PM
May 2018

...Oh, Rudy, you're still the same dipshit you've always been. Here's a clue: Most of the country would love to see Ivanka get her comeuppance. She's been the pleasant-faced shill for her despot father for years. It's time to pay the piper.

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
87. K&R
Thu May 3, 2018, 06:28 PM
May 2018

BTW, that was one of the weirdest Rudy statements in a completely bizarre interview. I don't think Ivanka's all that popular with most Trumpsters, let alone "the whole country" caring enough about her to turn on Mueller.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
98. No. He needs to go where the evidence takes him. Doesn't sound like she's very swift, though.
Thu May 3, 2018, 07:16 PM
May 2018

She's wrapped up in her businesses and makeup and fashion & nannies, seems like. But we don't know what we don't know. Surely she knows about Kushner's lies and Russian collusion...pillow talk and all. And I think she was one who thought it would be good to fire Comey, if I recall correctly.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,311 posts)
106. Hardly anyone objected to Michelle Wolf saying Ivanka is "full of shit" on the inside
Thu May 3, 2018, 08:23 PM
May 2018

I thought this was the bluntest thing Wolf said, but the Trumpists all focused on "perfect smokey eye":

‘There’s also Ivanka. She was supposed to be an advocate for women, but it turns out she’s about as helpful to women as an empty box of tampons… She’s the diaper genie of administrations. On the outside she looks slick but on the inside, it’s still full of shit.’

I don't think the world will come to her rescue if she's implicated.

musicblind

(4,484 posts)
115. If he has reason to believe she broke the law, then he should go where the investigation goes.
Thu May 3, 2018, 11:18 PM
May 2018

I don't want him to go after her just because she is Trump's daughter, but if he thinks she did anything unseemly, then it is his duty to follow that lead.

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
123. Trying to say she's above the law
Fri May 4, 2018, 05:19 AM
May 2018

And can't be gone after by Mueller is like saying because I'm president my kids are above the law with me. To me these kids involved in the White House if criminals are subjects to the rule of law no matter who they are. Suggesting anything different dt can't be the law and order candidate then if he thinks they are also above the rule of law. If dt is above the rule of law , then he'll make many of the most corrupt people , including his kids, overseeing all the corruption. Like he's trying to do right now with many of his appointments. He's really likes the most corrupt ones, just like Putin did in Russia. The American people if found she has committed crimes will demand she be treated and charged like everyone else would be. Anything else in unjust.

Demsrule86

(68,556 posts)
127. I welcome that criminal fake woman's rights complete loser's prosecution and a number of years
Fri May 4, 2018, 07:11 AM
May 2018

in club Fed...orange is not her color poor dear.

 

RhodeIslandOne

(5,042 posts)
140. Rudy lives in the dirty old man world where hot babes get away with stuff
Fri May 4, 2018, 10:29 AM
May 2018

I personally can’t wait to see her in Orange.

 

Still In Wisconsin

(4,450 posts)
141. Princess Ivanka.... NOT
Fri May 4, 2018, 10:35 AM
May 2018

Ivanka is not American royalty.

TRUMP has his idiot sycophant followers. Ivanka is just a rich girl who sells ugly clothes, shoes, and handbags made in China. Almost nobody cares about her.

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