Everybody is talking about campaign finance violations, but

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

why isn't anybody talking about the simple but disgusting fact that the person who is now the President of the United States paid hush money to a porn star to keep her from talking about the fact that he fucked her while his wife was home with their new baby? Whether or not the payoff violated campaign finance laws, isn't that kind of despicable?

[Stuart G]

1. Yes, Trump defines the word, "despicable"...nt

[djg21]

9. It's not a crime

To be a stupid, lecherous, adulterous pig.

[SCantiGOP]

21. But it is a sin....

......say his hypocritical fundamentalist supporters who continue to support him because he was an alternative to a black or female President.

[ut oh]

23. But remember

those fundamentalists are excusing it by saying Trump was ordained by God, so all is forgiven...

[SCantiGOP]

25. If that's the case

It was God’s worst decision since that big flood.

[BobTheSubgenius]

28. Good thing for the GOP.

They seem to be prone to this charming behavior. It sure doesn't seem to stick to them like it should, though.

[Miigwech]

2. Cohen was trump's bag man

he must have laundered lots of money through his cab companies and trump real estate . Maybe lots of Russian cash.

[Eliot Rosewater]

3. While his wife is giving birth he has not one but two that we know of affairs.

Now we know rump is a piece of shit incapable of being decent, but why does his base love him so?

I think I know.

[Kurt V.]

14. tell us

tell us

[BigmanPigman]

4. This is OK behavior as far as his cult/base is concerned.

They are all hypocrites above everything else. Their only god is the almighty dollar.

[Solomon]

19. Their god is white supremacy.

[nature-lover]

5. These despicable acts, moral and illegal, have become the norm with him.

We cannot allow ourselves to become numbed. We need to remain outraged!

[XRubicon]

6. Sing with me.

[rzemanfl]

7. There are more NDAs and the FBI has them IMHO. n/t

[0rganism]

8. for some reason, that makes him a Hero to his supporters

i have absolutely no idea how such thinking happens, but it apparently does

[Caliman73]

10. Yes, but we've had many presidents who have had affairs and likely kept them quiet.

Heroes like FDR and JFK had multiple affairs while in office and they were covered up. MLK Jr. (though he was not a President) was widely known to have mistresses. We all know about Bill Clinton's womanizing.

Liberals, while possibly finding ethical and moral reasons to recoil from the behaviors, are typically less judgmental about what goes on between consenting adults. We may have personal feelings about what happens but are able to see the complexity of human behavior.

We tend to get mad when people are hypocrites about their behaviors. When the David Vitter's of the world, the Newt Gingrich's rail on about Family values while cheating on their partners. When as Michele Wolf said, anti-choice politicians are fine forcing their mistresses to have abortions. That is when we get mad.

Trump is a swine. He has always been one since he cheated on Ivana with Marla, then Marla with Melania. He is a disgusting human being and most but his most ardent supporters are aware of that. Like others said however, those things are not crimes, and unless we point the same finger of shame on those figures I mentioned above, we shouldn't be hypocrites like Republicans are.

The problem is that Trump takes things to a new level and likely did use campaign money or likely paid Daniels off NOT to save his marriage, but to stop negative press right before the election. He likely broke the law, which would be what is needed to impeach.

Let's put it this way, If Bill Clinton would have just owned his affair with Lewinsky, he would never have been impeached. They would have tried, but having an affair, even in the Oval Office, is not a crime. Lying to Congress is a crime and that is what they decided when Clinton got cute with indicative verbs. Trump has denied any involvement with Daniels but with the Guliani interview, is now indicating that there was an affair and cover up, but not with campaign money. He has still opened himself up regarding his motive for the cover up and will likely purger himself because he cannot help it.

It isn't about the affair, even though Trump is a skank. It is about how many crimes he has committed in his short time in office.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

11. In Clinton's situation, his dalliance with Lewinski,

while morally reprehensible, wasn't a crime. What they impeached him for was lying to a grand jury (not Congress) about the affair and the Paula Jones lawsuit, and obstruction of justice. He was acquitted, of course, because these acts, although technically criminal, were found not to constitute high crimes or misdemeanors. But an awful lot of people who got the vapors about Bill's zipper problems are strangely silent about Trump's much more extreme behavior.

[Caliman73]

12. Clinton was impeached by the House

The Senate did not take up the matter for the reason you said.

You are completely correct though, What Clinton did with Lewinski was not a crime. In the same vein, what Trump did with Daniels was not a crime either. The attempt to cover up is what is being reviewed for criminality. If he paid her with his own money, in order as he is saying, "To save his marriage", then there is no crime. If he used campaign money or if he paid to have the story not come out before the election, then there is likely a crime.

The people who as you said, are catching the vapors over Bill's peccadilloes and are not caring about Trump's past, are simply hypocritical scum, or as we like to call them, Republicans.

[Sophia4]

26. If he paid her with "his own" money?

That is not established. If he paid her with with money from his business and reported the payment as a business expense???? Lots of questions.

I'm not saying he did that because I have no idea what he did, but there are still lots of questions about Trump's conduct and his affairs. Were other women paid? How much? Did he ever pay any woman for an abortion? There was a phrase in Stormy Daniel's agreement that suggested a possible problem about that. Was the agreement from some other woman's case? We don't know.

Those questions have not yet arisen, but . . . . we don't know whether they will. The Republicans did not balk at raising vicious innuendo with regard to Hillary Clinton. Yet there never has been any evidence that her sex life was anything unusual.

What is the truth, without innuendo about Trump?

I don't think we know the whole story, and I don't think Trump can be so quickly and easily reassured about his future. It's all very murky. There are lots of questions to be answered, and Trump has not acted or responded to questions in any manner that suggests that we can trust him, his lawyers or his aides.

Giuliani's revelations last night are huge and suggest that Trump has mislead his own voters. How disgusting!

[S.E. TN Liberal]

13. A republican't can't be despicable.

They also can't give a damn what any of their own do.

They can't help themselves when they have a child molester running for office.

They can't care if they throw old people out of their family homes.

They can't see the irony of having their own cheaters condemning any Democrat who cheats.

They can't have minds that function normally. If they did, they could not be conservative. They need the defective brain to be a conservative in the first place.

conservatism needs to be cured.

[Kurt V.]

17. wow

your last line, I've been saying for decades

[byronius]

24. They don't give a damn about their nation or the human species.

And a cure would mean blessings and prosperity for us all.

[Mr.Bill]

15. If someone came up with video

of Trump raping 12 year old girls his voters would brag about how cute the girls were.

[Tatiana]

16. This is how far in the tank our values have been taken with Trump.

It's disgusting behavior and I wish someone would be brave enough to ask this question of Melania in a public setting.

[Nitram]

33. It was not Melania's fault. Why would you want to humiliate her like that?

Do you hate women?

[lancelyons]

18. And the evangelicals have no issue with this

[TrogL]

27. No. They think he's King David reincarnated

They’re going with a fallen man doing good things

[bucolic_frolic]

20. He's got his, you think he cares?

And his Trumper followers can't figure out that they're not doing as well as he is

[Sophia4]

22. Especially since his voters made hate-filled comments about Hillary because

she was married to a man who had affairs during their marriage and an affair with a young woman while president.

Trump's affairs are so much worse than those of Bill Clinton.

And there is utterly no evidence that Hillary was involved in any of Bill Clinton's affairs.

There was a lot of unfair and nasty innuendo about Hillary and sex that was just so cheap and so reprehensible. Meanwhile, the Republican candidate was downright promiscuous in his life.

Trump's supporters are such hypocrites, such fools that I don't know what to think about them.

[ffr]

29. Correction, didn't he also pay to F her? Then paid to shut her up?

Just want to make sure that there were two payments made, one for her to oblige her to have sex with him, money for sex with a porn star, then payment to cover it up.

[Nitram]

32. No, ffr, Daniels has clearly stated over and over again that he tried to pay her for sex

and she refused to accept it. She is not a prostitute. She was paid not to speak to the press about the affair because it was right before the election and right after the pussy-grabbing video was released.

[ffr]

35. Thanks. I haven't been following the story that closely. Just the parts where he's lying.

[spanone]

30. Amen...K&R...

[Nitram]

31. Velveteen, dude, it takes a thorough knowledge of the law to take someone like Trump down.

Let the pros take care of it. They know what they are doing. They put Al Capone, a serial murderer, in prison for the rest of his life for tax fraud.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

34. I'm not worried; Mueller will take care of business.

It just irritates me to no end that so many people in this country don't seem to be bothered by the fact that the president is a moral slagheap.