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hlthe2b

(102,239 posts)
Fri May 4, 2018, 04:37 PM May 2018

**Breaking** Conviction of Michael Skakel, Kennedy cousin,in 1975 killing has been vacated.

New murder trial ordered for Kennedy cousin Michael Skakel
By: DAVE COLLINS, Associated Press
http://www.krqe.com/news/national/new-murder-trial-ordered-for-kennedy-cousin-michael-skakel/1159926821

HARTFORD, Conn. (AP) - In a stunning reversal, the Connecticut Supreme Court on Friday vacated Kennedy cousin Michael Skakel's murder conviction and ordered a new trial in connection with a 1975 killing in wealthy Greenwich.

The court issued a 4-3 ruling Friday that Skakel's trial attorney, Michael Sherman, failed to present evidence of an alibi. The decision reversed the high court's previous ruling in December 2016 that reinstated Skakel's conviction after a lower court ordered a new trial, citing mistakes by Sherman.

Skakel, a nephew of Robert F. Kennedy's widow, Ethel Kennedy, was convicted of murder in 2002 in the bludgeoning death of Martha Moxley in their wealthy Greenwich neighborhood in 1975, when they were teenagers. He was sentenced to 20 years to life in prison, but was freed on $1.2 million bail after the lower court overturned his murder conviction in 2013. --snip--

Santos argued that Sherman made poor decisions, including not focusing on Skakel's brother as a possible suspect and failing to attempt to contact an alibi witness. Santos said Skakel was several miles away from the crime scene watching a Monty Python movie with friends when Moxley was bludgeoned with a golf club.
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**Breaking** Conviction of Michael Skakel, Kennedy cousin,in 1975 killing has been vacated. (Original Post) hlthe2b May 2018 OP
Well, Mark Furhman just had a sad. Tommy_Carcetti May 2018 #1
yup... I never made up my mind on Skakel, but thought there were signficant questions hlthe2b May 2018 #3
Same here. Completely unsure if he is guilty or innocent despite reading and watching a lot on this. stevenleser May 2018 #5
re: "very sad that this girl has been denied justice either way"--even more so for her 84 yo Mother hlthe2b May 2018 #11
He confessed to it in a mental institution...he confessed to the police as I remember and then took Demsrule86 May 2018 #12
The Skakels were nuts...they would drive the cars 100 miles an hour on the Merritt Parkway. Demsrule86 May 2018 #13
The only person convicted of anything in the whole OJ craptapular underpants May 2018 #4
That's a blast from the past RandySF May 2018 #2
There's a black man in Louisiana who's in jail of 8 yrs without being convicted of a crime MrScorpio May 2018 #6
That is obscene. I would have bet Louisiana before I even read the post. hlthe2b May 2018 #7
If you think that's bad, check this out... MrScorpio May 2018 #8
Horrendous....Where is ACLU on this? hlthe2b May 2018 #9
Hell, if I know... MrScorpio May 2018 #10
please make an OP on these cases, it is fucking OUTRAGEOUS Exotica May 2018 #15
Your link indicates he's being held on a parole violation struggle4progress May 2018 #16
I thought his alibi was he was up in a tree masturbating GusBob May 2018 #14

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,181 posts)
1. Well, Mark Furhman just had a sad.
Fri May 4, 2018, 04:38 PM
May 2018

Seeing that he milked his investigation all that he could in order to try and rehabilitate his image after his racial comments came out in the Simpson trial.

hlthe2b

(102,239 posts)
3. yup... I never made up my mind on Skakel, but thought there were signficant questions
Fri May 4, 2018, 04:43 PM
May 2018

Robert Kennedy Jr., despite his anti-vax nuttiness, was so convinced of Skakel's innocence that he's fought for him all these years. I found that touching and maybe a bit convincing of the need for another "look"...

So many years have passed, though, it may be impossible to find the truth.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
5. Same here. Completely unsure if he is guilty or innocent despite reading and watching a lot on this.
Fri May 4, 2018, 04:46 PM
May 2018

There was a documentary that made him look REALLY guilty. Then you read about some evidence the documentary didn't cover that casts some doubt.

Very sad that this girl has been denied justice either way.

hlthe2b

(102,239 posts)
11. re: "very sad that this girl has been denied justice either way"--even more so for her 84 yo Mother
Fri May 4, 2018, 06:13 PM
May 2018

It never ends for her...

Demsrule86

(68,556 posts)
12. He confessed to it in a mental institution...he confessed to the police as I remember and then took
Fri May 4, 2018, 06:40 PM
May 2018

it back. He is as guilty as sin.

Demsrule86

(68,556 posts)
13. The Skakels were nuts...they would drive the cars 100 miles an hour on the Merritt Parkway.
Fri May 4, 2018, 06:42 PM
May 2018

They were always in trouble and ran wild...their parents and aunt (Ethel Kennedy) had been raised the same way according to my Mom and Dad. They were also considered nouveau Riche and were not accepted by the old families.

underpants

(182,789 posts)
4. The only person convicted of anything in the whole OJ craptapular
Fri May 4, 2018, 04:44 PM
May 2018

Now he adds his insight on Fox News from a dimly lit home office with the shades drawn. Yes it's hiding that he's in California while the broadcast from NYC...but I think it's also supposed to add credibility.

MrScorpio

(73,631 posts)
6. There's a black man in Louisiana who's in jail of 8 yrs without being convicted of a crime
Fri May 4, 2018, 04:47 PM
May 2018



When you're white and have money, at least you can get some justice now and then.

hlthe2b

(102,239 posts)
7. That is obscene. I would have bet Louisiana before I even read the post.
Fri May 4, 2018, 04:50 PM
May 2018

AL and MS have their own brand of ugliness, but Louisiana has been notorious for this kind of thing for POC.

MrScorpio

(73,631 posts)
8. If you think that's bad, check this out...
Fri May 4, 2018, 04:53 PM
May 2018

Here's another black man in Florida who was found not guilty by a jury, no less, but the judge sentence him to prison for seven years anyway:

Black Man Found Not Guilty of Crime, Still Sentenced to 7 Years In Prison

Michael Harriot
5/23/17 2:00pmFiled to: NEWS

In today’s example of how the American justice system treats black bodies, we take a look at Ramad Chatman, a 24-year-old man who was found not guilty by a jury of his peers but will serve seven years in prison because ...

Come on, you know why. Read the first two words of the headline again.

According to The Independent, in 2012 Chatman was convicted of breaking and entering for stealing a television worth $120. It was his first offense, but because he was—again, you know why—Chatman was sentenced to five years’ probation. You read that right. He was 19, and a judge thought it necessary to make him property of the state for half a decade.


https://www.theroot.com/black-man-found-not-guilty-of-crime-still-sentenced-to-1795475956

MrScorpio

(73,631 posts)
10. Hell, if I know...
Fri May 4, 2018, 04:57 PM
May 2018

But, you know, these are black guys in America's criminal justice system, where injustice is a dime a dozen.

By the way, Wisconsin is getting in on this trend as well:

Man not guilty on gun charges at trial but still sent to prison in Wisconsin

A jury found Damien Payne not guilty of being a felon in possession of a firearm and of carrying a concealed weapon.

But he was still sent to prison for more than three years.

That’s because Payne, who got out of prison in 2010, was being supervised by the Department of Corrections at the time. As a result, he was subject to a little-known department rule that says it doesn’t matter if ex-offenders on probation or parole are acquitted — they can be sent back to prison based on the same allegations.

Payne, 35, said he didn’t know his girlfriend’s gun was in the glove compartment of his car when he was pulled over in July. The jury believed him. His probation and parole agent didn’t.

Milwaukee County Circuit Judge Stephanie Rothstein has agreed to review Payne's revocation case and decide whether the department acted “erroneously, arbitrarily, capriciously and contrary to law,” as his attorney, Jessica A. Klein, contends.

https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/investigations/2017/02/04/man-not-guilty-gun-charges-trial-but-still-sent-prison-wisconsin/97359244/

struggle4progress

(118,282 posts)
16. Your link indicates he's being held on a parole violation
Fri May 4, 2018, 06:55 PM
May 2018

It's certainly plausible that he's being treated unfairly, but it's not true he's in jail without being convicted of a crime

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