Schneiderman sounds like a dangerous and sick man.

[madaboutharry]

I know that many here want to push back against this, but this alleged behavior is outrageous. Schneiderman is not denying this, he is claiming that it was consensual.

He can not continue in his job as he no longer has credibility. A replacement will continue with the cases in the AG 's office.

[Vinnie From Indy]

1. Gee, thanks for letting us know!

It is always nice to know how to think about issues!

[madaboutharry]

2. This is a place where people get to state their opinions.

[Vinnie From Indy]

3. As I said, thanks for telling us all how to think

It makes it so much easier.

[FreeState]

7. I don't see where the OP told anyone how to think n/t

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[Vinnie From Indy]

10. "He can not continue in his job as he no longer has credibility."

I guess you missed this part of the OP.

[uppityperson]

16. Someone statIng their opinion on du is telling everyone how to think? Are you series?

[FreeState]

35. Not seeing it at all n/t

[yardwork]

13. You might want to read the article in the New Yorker.

[yardwork]

26. Yes. Sorry. Fixed my post.

[elleng]

32. Really. Thanks.

[Blue_true]

33. The OP didn't tell you or anyone else how to think.

An opinion was given and that was that.

[Matthew28]

4. I want evidence

before I judge someone as guilty.

[jberryhill]

27. He floated what is called an "affirmative defense"

He admits beating them up, but says it was consensual.

He’s an attorney. You get that sort of consent in the form of tangible evidence.

[Eko]

5. If Schneiderman is not denying this

then why is it alleged?

[madville]

9. It's alleged that it was not consensual

He says it was consensual.

He is not denying that he enjoys physically and verbally abusing women. His argument is that they all liked it.

[Eko]

14. Then he is denying it.

[madaboutharry]

12. It is alleged that it wasn't consensual.

The women have said the physical abuse was not consensual, which is what Schneiderman is claiming.

[Eko]

17. I think the way you framed it was incorrect.

"I know that many here want to push back against this, but this alleged behavior is outrageous. Schneiderman is not denying this, he is claiming that it was consensual. "
Obviously he is denying the behavior, namely that it was not consensual.

[madville]

6. I was told in another thread that enjoying physical and verbal abuse of women

is fine as long as they like it, it is consensual and was done in private. Some people will defend anything that has a (D) beside it apparently.

[DonCoquixote]

19. There is a difference between sex game and rape

But as any dominatrix worth her salt will tell you, anyone that cannot tell the difference between a game two people play and wanting to hurt people for real needs to be run out and ratter out, no questions. There is a mantra: safe, sane and consensual.

If this person stopped trying to be safe, sane AND consensual, they need to be dealt with to the fullest extent of the law. This is not an attempt to marginalize the leather lovers, as they would be the first to rip into people like this. I still remember telling me how she would scare off people who even had a hint of rape, where the club members would warn the person that if he was seen around the club. not only would the cops get him, but that they would gladly show a lot of the nastier tricks they would do to a rapist (I cannot get into detail, but they involved uses of a spoon that ruined Tea forever.)

[uppityperson]

23. Exactly.

Coffee is better than tea anyway.

[Blue_true]

34. For some reason.

Being tied up with an apple in my mouth and someone lashing my ass with a whip just doesn't do it for me, not remotely so.

[DonCoquixote]

36. well

different strokes for different folkd, but I assure you, those who act responsible would find a way to ensure things were not an irresponsible mess.

[uppityperson]

21. If it's consensual, then it is fine. 2 consenting adults can engage in a large variety of sex play

Or more than 2. Consensual between adults, their political party doesn't matter.

[jberryhill]

29. Some forms of consent should be written

What kind of a jackass does that, in his position, without tangible evidence of consent.

[EffieBlack]

30. Exactly

[DonCoquixote]

31. that is why

many people do this in clubs, where there are very watchful people who act as a safety net.

[uppityperson]

40. And consent can be stopped at any moment

[chillfactor]

8. sorry BUT....

I want to know why FOUR women turned up all at the same time. Seems a bit suspicious to me.

[EffieBlack]

15. Jane Mayer and Ronan Farrow are excellent journalists - and we believed them when

they covered Weinstein.

Schneiderman isn't denying he likes abusing women. He's just saying they let him do it.

He needs to go.

[madville]

18. They seem credible

He's not denying any of this occurred. He is saying the physical and verbal abuse was consensual, that they agreed to it and willingly took part. They say they did not, that he surprised them with it, all have a similar stories of his excessive drinking and then surprise verbal and physical abuse.

[EffieBlack]

11. I agree

[yardwork]

22. I recommend that you read the New Yorker article.

[uppityperson]

24. He just resigned

[sabbat hunter]

28. Scheinderman resigns

https://ag.ny.gov/press-release/statement-attorney-general-eric-t-schneiderman

I wonder who the new AG will be. I hope that Preet Bharara throws his hat into the ring to be the next NYS AG.

[roamer65]

37. Preet would be an excellent choice.

[LisaL]

38. Legislature is going to be picking the next AG.

So it really doesn't matter who the excellent choice is.

[sabbat hunter]

39. term is up

election is in november. So anyone they pick will have to run for election in November.