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Computer scientists have strong evidence election was rigged against Clinton in 3 key states (Original Post) HipChick May 2018 OP
This doesn't surprise me a bit mcar May 2018 #1
That's an article from 2016 n/t manor321 May 2018 #2
Little dated... article from 2016. But, hey, if you're suggesting Hillary should seek a recount... InAbLuEsTaTe May 2018 #3
Why repeat excuses from 2016? We lost because we didn't GOTV, people voted for Stein or even trump, Hoyt May 2018 #4
You do realize that is almost 2 years old? NO EVIDENCE WAS FOUND!! jmg257 May 2018 #5
republicans betrayed America and American democracy Achilleaze May 2018 #6
Michigan has statewide paper ballots. longship May 2018 #7
Yep DetroitLegalBeagle May 2018 #10
They were Unable to recount because of possible fraudulent activity lostnfound May 2018 #11
They stole it - history will absolve me malaise May 2018 #8
No they didn't mythology May 2018 #9
Exit poll analysis by Ron Baiman Ph. D. also supports this evidence. triron May 2018 #12
kick for visibility triron May 2018 #13
kick again triron May 2018 #14
TIME: Election Hackers Altered Voter Rolls, Stole Private Data, Officials Say ucrdem May 2018 #15
kick for visibility triron May 2018 #16

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
3. Little dated... article from 2016. But, hey, if you're suggesting Hillary should seek a recount...
Thu May 10, 2018, 09:30 AM
May 2018

at this late date, I'm all for it!

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
4. Why repeat excuses from 2016? We lost because we didn't GOTV, people voted for Stein or even trump,
Thu May 10, 2018, 09:30 AM
May 2018

people sat on their rear because their candidate didn't win the primary, etc.

Look what that got us. Hope we learned our lesson.

jmg257

(11,996 posts)
5. You do realize that is almost 2 years old? NO EVIDENCE WAS FOUND!!
Thu May 10, 2018, 09:38 AM
May 2018

"while they have not found conclusive evidence of a hack, the pattern in their results merits an independent review"

Been there did that - not an issue.

longship

(40,416 posts)
7. Michigan has statewide paper ballots.
Thu May 10, 2018, 09:55 AM
May 2018

Losing an election is not a sole criterium to be able to claim that it was rigged. One has to have actual evidence.

DetroitLegalBeagle

(1,923 posts)
10. Yep
Thu May 10, 2018, 10:56 AM
May 2018

The only machines used are the tabulators, which just make counting quicker. The original paper ballot is still stored physically in the machine in case an audit is necessary. From what I remember hearing there were some issues with a few older tabulators double counting, but it was isolated in a heavily democratic detroit precinct, and only to a couple of the oldest tabulators. They hand counted the affected ballots.

lostnfound

(16,179 posts)
11. They were Unable to recount because of possible fraudulent activity
Thu May 10, 2018, 07:39 PM
May 2018

If a recount of paper ballots show that the total number of ballots is not the same as the original tabulated total, then the recount is not used and you go with the original numbers.

Some boxes were opened, or seal broken, and therefore they couldn’t actually do a recount.

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
9. No they didn't
Thu May 10, 2018, 10:13 AM
May 2018

Wisconsin partially recounted by hand. It showed no statistical difference from the machine recounted counties. The biggest issue was user error such as not fully filling the circle.

There is zero evidence votes were changed.

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
15. TIME: Election Hackers Altered Voter Rolls, Stole Private Data, Officials Say
Thu May 10, 2018, 08:14 PM
May 2018
By MASSIMO CALABRESI June 22, 2017

The hacking of state and local election databases in 2016 was more extensive than previously reported, including at least one successful attempt to alter voter information, and the theft of thousands of voter records that contain private information like partial Social Security numbers, current and former officials tell TIME.

In one case, investigators found there had been a manipulation of voter data in a county database but the alterations were discovered and rectified, two sources familiar with the matter tell TIME. Investigators have not identified whether the hackers in that case were Russian agents.

http://time.com/4828306/russian-hacking-election-widespread-private-data/


So what about the manipulations that weren't discovered and rectified? And how come PA and MI refused to fulfill their legal obligation to provide vote recounts to a candidate who met all the deadlines and payed all the fees?


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