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cyclonefence

(4,483 posts)
Sun May 13, 2018, 08:12 AM May 2018

I suspect that the silence from most Republicans in Congress

re: the cruel comment about John McCain (which is only the latest incomprehensible outrage) stems from the fact that every goddam one of them has received money from Russia, through the NRA or other cloaked sources, and they are only now finding out about this tainted money they were only too happy to accept. I think maybe that's why they're so ready to claim witch hunt and why they want the Mueller probe shut down, why they don't dare speak out against the obscenity which is Trump, why they are deciding not to run again. I think they're afraid that every last one of them has broken campaign law by accepting money from foreign donors *at the very least* and have committed frankly treasonous acts without knowing it.

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I suspect that the silence from most Republicans in Congress (Original Post) cyclonefence May 2018 OP
I've been wondering about that, too. Time to invest in the orange jumpsuit factory. Vinca May 2018 #1
I think they DID know about it, and therefore the panic. shraby May 2018 #2
Yes, I am sure they knew. nt tblue37 May 2018 #24
And, if they DID know about it, why can't jrthin May 2018 #26
There will likely be a RICO charge placed against the GOP leadership. You're on the money. Eyeball_Kid May 2018 #34
I fully agree with this. Texin May 2018 #32
IIRC someone commented that the Orange Menace was in Putin's pay Pluvious May 2018 #40
I think so, too--most of them anyway. pandr32 May 2018 #36
Weren't they all on recess last week? BigmanPigman May 2018 #3
I know you're not excusing their silence cyclonefence May 2018 #7
the problem is they can choose to ignore the results of Mueller's probe mucifer May 2018 #4
Yep !! Civic Justice May 2018 #5
Doubtful oberliner May 2018 #6
It may be that they don't want to piss off Trump because... kentuck May 2018 #8
It all seems like political calculations to me oberliner May 2018 #10
True. Their silence is a vote for Trump and a vote for their own self-interest. kentuck May 2018 #12
Many probably received tainted money,, others are waiting to see which way the wind blows. dameatball May 2018 #9
Wasn't Cohen Deputy Finance Chair of the RNC? SallyHemmings May 2018 #11
He still is Deputy Finance Chair of the RNC. kentuck May 2018 #13
And don't super-pacs cyclonefence May 2018 #14
This sounds like the biggest scandal in American history. kentuck May 2018 #15
I think it is cyclonefence May 2018 #16
It doesn't just SOUND like it. pangaia May 2018 #31
The problem is vlyons May 2018 #17
We know Mitch and Ryan did True Blue American May 2018 #18
BINGO! ashredux May 2018 #19
Most of them are involved Perseus May 2018 #20
when all this began, i said to my gf... Javaman May 2018 #21
Torshin and the NRA alfredo May 2018 #22
You just now figured this out? DarleenMB May 2018 #23
I have been suspecting the same since the Republican convention randr May 2018 #25
They have been mum for the last 18 months. pangaia May 2018 #27
Lying, greedy, evil, vicious, shit-faced fucks of a feather... Beartracks May 2018 #39
Republicans were recorded in 2016 discussing Putin paying Trump JAD May 2018 #28
They knew all along where the money came from IMO JDC May 2018 #29
You are correct. I believe the GOP IS AWASH WITH RUSSIAN MONEY... Raster May 2018 #30
They also won't go up against Trump because if for some reason they do end up in prison, they smirkymonkey May 2018 #33
Except they did know. WhiteTara May 2018 #35
When in doubt remember malaise May 2018 #37
Put on front page of Democratic Underground and keep it there. Lest we forget! JAD May 2018 #41
And a large number of them are just soulless assholes. Guilded Lilly May 2018 #38
So how do we move forward? sellitman May 2018 #42

jrthin

(4,836 posts)
26. And, if they DID know about it, why can't
Sun May 13, 2018, 10:40 AM
May 2018

they all be charged. Ignorance of the law is not an excuse. There has to be someone who can legally take them down. These men and women should serve time, being voted out of office is just not enough.

Texin

(2,596 posts)
32. I fully agree with this.
Sun May 13, 2018, 10:52 AM
May 2018

There was something in the news many months ago (around the time tRump was about to be sworn in), involving Ryan and other congressional rethugs. He was caught on a hot mic unawares and flat-footed telling these members to keep their mouths' shut about something. It's my vague recollection that it was involving Russia.

Pluvious

(4,310 posts)
40. IIRC someone commented that the Orange Menace was in Putin's pay
Sun May 13, 2018, 12:03 PM
May 2018

And this fact needed to be kept just within the team.

pandr32

(11,582 posts)
36. I think so, too--most of them anyway.
Sun May 13, 2018, 10:55 AM
May 2018

It would be nice to think there were a few who didn't realize it until later and then found they were indebted and had to go along, but I also wonder how long ago the Russian and mob taint started. How long ago did this money start filling the NRA? The super PACs?
Was it in 2014 when the Supreme Court struck down the ban on campaign donation caps or in 2010 when the Supreme Court rejected a limit to corporate spending in political campaigns?
We know the television propaganda model meant to dumb down average Americans and influence them politically began in the 1990s with Fox News--even earlier for radio (in the 1980s) after the Fairness Doctrine was repealed. Was there any illegal funding behind any of this, and when?

cyclonefence

(4,483 posts)
7. I know you're not excusing their silence
Sun May 13, 2018, 08:21 AM
May 2018

because every one of them has access to a news reporter no matter where they are, and any news organization, no matter where it is, would report any Republican making a comment that opposed Trump's position on anything. Can you imagine Republicans--or Democrats--holding their tongues in any other administration if a war hero--or any dying member--were talked about this way, by some punk office drone *in their own administration*?

kentuck

(111,092 posts)
8. It may be that they don't want to piss off Trump because...
Sun May 13, 2018, 08:29 AM
May 2018

...they are fearful of what Trump might do to them??

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
10. It all seems like political calculations to me
Sun May 13, 2018, 08:34 AM
May 2018

Republicans have nothing to gain really from pissing off Trump - and a lot to lose potentially (i.e. getting primaried).

The Republicans who have (mildly) called out Trump tend to be ones who are leaving Congress.

kentuck

(111,092 posts)
12. True. Their silence is a vote for Trump and a vote for their own self-interest.
Sun May 13, 2018, 08:43 AM
May 2018

They have wandered into a briar patch.

SallyHemmings

(1,821 posts)
11. Wasn't Cohen Deputy Finance Chair of the RNC?
Sun May 13, 2018, 08:43 AM
May 2018

How much Russian money was funneled through
God knows what PACs...

kentuck

(111,092 posts)
13. He still is Deputy Finance Chair of the RNC.
Sun May 13, 2018, 08:45 AM
May 2018

And, in my opinion, that is the first hint to where the money is being laundered.

kentuck

(111,092 posts)
15. This sounds like the biggest scandal in American history.
Sun May 13, 2018, 08:48 AM
May 2018

If the fraud is as great as the possibility of fraud?

cyclonefence

(4,483 posts)
16. I think it is
Sun May 13, 2018, 08:49 AM
May 2018

This administration is certainly far and away the most corrupt in our history, and the cruelest.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
31. It doesn't just SOUND like it.
Sun May 13, 2018, 10:49 AM
May 2018

It is for 100% sure.
NOTHING comes anywhere near what this is. And it IS GOING to get worse.

It is the overthrow of American 'democracy,' such as it was.

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
17. The problem is
Sun May 13, 2018, 08:59 AM
May 2018

they are arrogant, condescending, ignorant, greedy racists, whose minds are filled with fear and hatred for "the other." They have no imagination, cannot think for themselves, and lie all the time. Other than that, they are fine Christian people.

True Blue American

(17,984 posts)
18. We know Mitch and Ryan did
Sun May 13, 2018, 09:09 AM
May 2018

The reason Ryan is getting out of town. I suspect McConnell will have a health crisis as soon as he loses control or Trump is exposed.

 

Perseus

(4,341 posts)
20. Most of them are involved
Sun May 13, 2018, 09:21 AM
May 2018

Most of them act very guilty and for anyone to think that conspiracies cannot be massive? Well, we are about to see that, in fact, they can be. What the GOP did to accomplish what happened in 2016 took a very wide concerted effort, and if anyone has any doubts just ask yourselves, why is it that republicans all say the same thing (verbatim) when interviewed? They are like Lemmings, repeat what some "mastermind" of the republican party comes up with.

I think they sit them all in a conference room, they give them the script and have everyone learn it by heart, then they go out and spew whatever the "leader" commanded them to say. I am sure they test them before they go out of the room, making sure they repeat every word in the right order.

They do deserve credit though, they are really good at manipulating stupid people.

Javaman

(62,530 posts)
21. when all this began, i said to my gf...
Sun May 13, 2018, 09:23 AM
May 2018

this is systemic among the repukes.

watch, all of them will have some level of involvement.

it is now appearing to be just that way.

DarleenMB

(408 posts)
23. You just now figured this out?
Sun May 13, 2018, 10:14 AM
May 2018

Seriously? And don't kid yourself ... they all KNEW where that money was coming from. Why do you think 39 of them have announced they will not run again. They are running scared and praying that leaving congress will protect them from Mueller. HA!

I have been saying for at least a year that the corruption in our government runs far, wide, and deep. And when the facts finally come out, trust me, there will also be a few Dems having their heads served up on a plate right along with the repubs. This investigation will shock the entire country at what is reveal. that's what MY crystal ball has been showing for months now.

Fasten those seatbelts, pop a mountain of popcorn and lay in a good supply of your favorite psychoactive substance. You're gonna need it.

randr

(12,412 posts)
25. I have been suspecting the same since the Republican convention
Sun May 13, 2018, 10:25 AM
May 2018

Somehow the lsos compromised them all and now holds it over their heads. We may soon learn where the millions in the slush fund went.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
27. They have been mum for the last 18 months.
Sun May 13, 2018, 10:45 AM
May 2018

I propose they were just lying, greedy, evil, vicious, shit faced fucks to begin with.

JAD

(187 posts)
28. Republicans were recorded in 2016 discussing Putin paying Trump
Sun May 13, 2018, 10:47 AM
May 2018

May I direct your attention to the May 17, 2017 Washington Post article of the recording of Republicans Paul Ryan and Kevin McCarthy and other Republican House members. This discussion happened in 2016 and was recorded by a Republican representative.
Ryan when questioned by the reporter said. "The discussion never happened." When the reporter countered with, "We have the transcript." Ryan said, "The transcript is incorrect." When the reporter again countered with, "We have the recording." Ryan replied, "We were joking."
The Republicans knew Trump was an agent of Putin in 2016.

Knowing about treason and not telling the FBI, is treason.

JDC

(10,127 posts)
29. They knew all along where the money came from IMO
Sun May 13, 2018, 10:47 AM
May 2018

And you are right, they are trying to get out of Dodge before sunset.

Raster

(20,998 posts)
30. You are correct. I believe the GOP IS AWASH WITH RUSSIAN MONEY...
Sun May 13, 2018, 10:48 AM
May 2018

...they're NOT protecting tRump*, they are protecting themselves, and they know there are very few GOP Congresspersons that can claim innocence... MOST are in on it.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
33. They also won't go up against Trump because if for some reason they do end up in prison, they
Sun May 13, 2018, 10:53 AM
May 2018

will want to count on a pardon from him and knowing how vindictive Trump is, he will only pardon those who kiss his fat ass.

malaise

(268,987 posts)
37. When in doubt remember
Sun May 13, 2018, 10:59 AM
May 2018

One of their legislative leaders has a wife in the cabinet and the other told them to keep it in the family

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/house-majority-leader-to-colleagues-in-2016-i-think-putin-pays-trump/2017/05/17/515f6f8a-3aff-11e7-8854-21f359183e8c_story.html
<snip>
A month before Donald Trump clinched the Republican nomination, one of his closest allies in Congress — House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy — made a politically explosive assertion in a private conversation on Capitol Hill with his fellow GOP leaders: that Trump could be the beneficiary of payments from Russian President Vladimir Putin.

“There’s two people I think Putin pays: Rohrabacher and Trump,” McCarthy (R-Calif.) said, according to a recording of the June 15, 2016, exchange, which was listened to and verified by The Washington Post. Rep. Dana Rohrabacher is a Californian Republican known in Congress as a fervent defender of Putin and Russia.

House Speaker Paul D. Ryan (R-Wis.) immediately interjected, stopping the conversation from further exploring McCarthy’s assertion, and swore the Republicans present to secrecy.

JAD

(187 posts)
41. Put on front page of Democratic Underground and keep it there. Lest we forget!
Sun May 13, 2018, 01:20 PM
May 2018

This article should be on the front page of Democratic Underground all day every day.

sellitman

(11,606 posts)
42. So how do we move forward?
Sun May 13, 2018, 08:33 PM
May 2018

The deck is stacked against us.

Does this mean Rump remains President and our little experiment with Democracy is officially over?

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