Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Tue May 15, 2018, 09:37 AM May 2018

Pastor Robert Jeffress Responds To Mitt Romney and Other Critics: 'I'm Not a Bigot'

by Joseph A. Wulfsohn | 1:12 am, May 15th, 2018

Pastor Robert Jeffress appeared on Fox News after facing criticism for his participation in the ceremony commemorating the opening of the U.S. embassy in Jerusalem.

On Monday morning, Mitt Romney took to Twitter to denounce Jeffress by invoking remarks he made about Jews and Mormonism, calling him a “religious bigot.” The Anti-Defamation League also expressed their dissent of Jeffress and his involvement in the ceremony.

Jeffress denied saying “anything derogatory about the Jewish people” and spoke at the ceremony about the “sameness” Jews and Christians have in believing the same God.

“I want to be clear. I’m not a bigot, I’m not an extremist, but I do without apology embrace the most foundational belief of historic Christianity. And that is that faith alone in Jesus Christ is the exclusive way to Heaven,” Jeffress told Shannon Bream. “Jesus said ‘I am the way, the truth and the life. No man comes to the Father but by me.’ Now people can disagree with Jesus’ words. Millions of them do, but the fact that I and hundreds of millions of evangelical Christians around the world believe what Jesus said about the way to heaven does not make us a bigot. This is not a surprising statement. The fact is this has been the teaching of the church for 2,000 years.”

more
https://www.mediaite.com/tv/pastor-robert-jeffress-responds-to-mitt-romney-and-other-critics-im-not-a-bigot/

16 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies

ck4829

(35,076 posts)
2. Didn't Jesus also say it was easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than
Tue May 15, 2018, 09:50 AM
May 2018

for a rich person to enter Heaven?

Funny how the power and money hungry evangelicals conveniently forget about that part. Non-Christians "disagree" (And I disagree with that as I see plenty of Muslims (Who we are all supposed to hate) and non-religious acting more like Jesus than your average religious righter does), but evangelicals clearly forget what Jesus says.

RestoreAmerica2020

(3,435 posts)
15. Yes. He also said to the rich man sell, give all--follow me; told a parable of hording wealth....
Tue May 15, 2018, 01:36 PM
May 2018
In both cases the rich man chose weatlth, possessions, status. Today hypocritcal christians. and members of other religions; whether republican, liberal or conservative all those who hoard wealth, enrich themselves at the expense of others, the poor, the sick, children, elderly--fine, great be greedy, selfish sons of bitches ...yet, they masquerade as if they care--that is the lie, the real offense. In stead fake christians, evangelicals and catholics alike hide behind a man name Jesus. Damn hypocrites!


Jesus and the Rich Man

[ Author unknown ] When I was 16 years old, I read in the newspaper about world poverty. For the first time, I learned that one billion people suffers from what the UN calls extreme poverty – less than 1,25 US dollars per day – and that due to the horrible circumstances that such low income brings, 50 000 people die from extreme poverty every day. That’s 18 million in a year. Chocked by these facts, I opened my Bible later that day and found the story about Jesus and the rich man:]

Jesus looked at him and loved him. “One thing you lack,” he said. “Go, sell everything you have and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.”

At this the man’s face fell. He went away sad, because he had great wealth.

Jesus looked around and said to his disciples, “How hard it is for the rich to enter the kingdom of God!” (Mark 10:21-23)


The parable of the RIch Fool

Luke 12:13-21 New International Version (NIV)
The Parable of the Rich Fool
13 Someone in the crowd said to him, “Teacher, tell my brother to divide the inheritance with me.”

14 Jesus replied, “Man, who appointed me a judge or an arbiter between you?” 15 Then he said to them, “Watch out! Be on your guard against all kinds of greed; life does not consist in an abundance of possessions.”

16 And he told them this parable: “The ground of a certain rich man yielded an abundant harvest. 17 He thought to himself, ‘What shall I do? I have no place to store my crops.’

18 “Then he said, ‘This is what I’ll do. I will tear down my barns and build bigger ones, and there I will store my surplus grain. 19 And I’ll say to myself, “You have plenty of grain laid up for many years. Take life easy; eat, drink and be merry.”’

20 “But God said to him, ‘You fool! This very night your life will be demanded from you. Then who will get what you have prepared for yourself?’

21 “This is how it will be with whoever stores up things for themselves but is not rich toward God.”

New International Version (NIV)
Holy Bible, New International Version®, NIV® Copyright ©1973, 1978, 1984, 2011 by Biblica, Inc.® Used by permission. All rights reserved worldwide.

«Luke 11
Luke 13
 

ollie10

(2,091 posts)
5. "And that is that faith alone in Jesus Christ is the exclusive way to Heaven,"
Tue May 15, 2018, 10:01 AM
May 2018

Wow....this guy says he is an expert on the Bible?

Isn't he forgetting something?

1 Corinthians 13: If I speak in the tongues[a] of men or of angels, but do not have love, I am only a resounding gong or a clanging cymbal. 2 If I have the gift of prophecy and can fathom all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have a faith that can move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing. 3 If I give all I possess to the poor and give over my body to hardship that I may boast, but do not have love, I gain nothing.

4 Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. 5 It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. 6 Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. 7 It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.

8 Love never fails. But where there are prophecies, they will cease; where there are tongues, they will be stilled; where there is knowledge, it will pass away. 9 For we know in part and we prophesy in part, 10 but when completeness comes, what is in part disappears. 11 When I was a child, I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I put the ways of childhood behind me. 12 For now we see only a reflection as in a mirror; then we shall see face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I am fully known.

13 And now these three remain: faith, hope and love. But the greatest of these is love.

atreides1

(16,079 posts)
6. Faith and works go hand in hand
Tue May 15, 2018, 10:09 AM
May 2018

Like most evangelicals, Jeffress chooses what he believes in, by claiming that faith alone is all that is needed...while that may be what is written in some bible passages, others show that faith and works are both important.


James 2:26 ESV
For as the body apart from the spirit is dead, so also faith apart from works is dead.
Evangelicals like Jeffress, who claim to have faith, should also be doing good works...Martin Luther said:“Works are necessary for salvation but they do not cause salvation; for faith alone gives life.”

James 2:14-26 ESV
What good is it, my brothers, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can that faith save him? If a brother or sister is poorly clothed and lacking in daily food, and one of you says to them, “Go in peace, be warmed and filled,” without giving them the things needed for the body, what good is that? So also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead. But someone will say, “You have faith and I have works.” Show me your faith apart from your works, and I will show you my faith by my works.



In his Introduction to Romans,Martin Luther stated that saving faith is:

...a living, creative, active and powerful thing, this faith. Faith cannot help doing good works constantly. It doesn’t stop to ask if good works ought to be done, but before anyone asks, it already has done them and continues to do them without ceasing. Anyone who does not do good works in this manner is an unbeliever...Thus, it is just as impossible to separate faith and works as it is to separate heat and light from fire!

MineralMan

(146,308 posts)
7. Some Christian denominations have abandoned those concepts.
Tue May 15, 2018, 10:13 AM
May 2018

More's the pity. Jeffress is a leader in one of those denominations. He's also a bigot.

MurrayDelph

(5,294 posts)
8. "I am not a bigot
Tue May 15, 2018, 10:24 AM
May 2018

"I just choose to misinterpret the teachings of Jesus in such a way that prioritizes hate and accumulating personal wealth over the teachings they we should all be nice to each other."

Hey, Jeffers, if you walk the walk of a bigot, and you talk like a bigot, and teach like a bigot, then you're a duck.

Bluesaph

(703 posts)
10. Faith in JESUS
Tue May 15, 2018, 10:38 AM
May 2018

Bears the fruits of the spirit one of which is LOVE.

Evangelicals have created a Republican god and worship it, not Jesus!!!

Jesus also said: for many will say to me on that day, “Lord! Lord!”

And he will respond: “Get away from me...”

I’m not even Christian and yet live by his teachings.

Frustratedlady

(16,254 posts)
11. I guess I was taught the wrong definition of a bigot. So many Christians deny they are bigots...
Tue May 15, 2018, 10:47 AM
May 2018

so I MUST have it all wrong. I must apologize to the bigots, er Christians, who hate blacks, gays, Muslims, Jews, Mormons, etc., `cause some teacher in Sunday School Class led me wrong. I've got a whole lot of ground to cover, so give me another 80 years to get it done.

 

Exotica

(1,461 posts)
16. This goes for any xtian that actually beleives that tosh
Tue May 15, 2018, 01:41 PM
May 2018

Any religion actually that espouses such views, whether temporally or through existential projection.

meow2u3

(24,764 posts)
14. "I am not a crook" - Richard Nixon
Tue May 15, 2018, 11:25 AM
May 2018

"I didn't have sex with {Monica Lewinsky}" - Bill " Big Dog" Clinton

"No collusion. No obstruction" - Donald "Pumpkin Punk" Trump

"I am not a bigot" - "Pastor" Robert Jeffress

Anyone see a pattern here?

Latest Discussions»General Discussion»Pastor Robert Jeffress Re...