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stopbush

(24,396 posts)
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 12:49 PM Aug 2012

In The End, Chik-Fil-A WILL Be Hurt By Their Anti-Gay Posture

Because people who refuse to patronize businesses that discriminate against others have got the word on Chik-Fi-A, and they have taken their business elsewhere, permanently, while the people who lined up yesterday to support Mike Huckabee's "Hating Gays Is OK" show of support for Chik-Fil-A are not going to make a point of eating there on a more-regular basis just to support bigotry.

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In The End, Chik-Fil-A WILL Be Hurt By Their Anti-Gay Posture (Original Post) stopbush Aug 2012 OP
+1 hedgehog Aug 2012 #1
Are you saying that you think THEY think it's bigotry? FBaggins Aug 2012 #2
I believe you are right. The last thing I would want is.... Bonhomme Richard Aug 2012 #3
Yeah they lost at least 4 customers that I know of personally jimlup Aug 2012 #4
I disagree. Odin2005 Aug 2012 #5
I agree Odious justice Aug 2012 #13
People with negative ideas and no convictions are defeated by those with passion KurtNYC Aug 2012 #20
40 years from now they are going to look as stupid as these people LynneSin Aug 2012 #6
When was the last time you went to a Woolworth's? TeamPooka Aug 2012 #19
Anyone recall the old "Sambo's" restaurant chain? If you can't, then my point is made. bullwinkle428 Aug 2012 #7
+1 uponit7771 Aug 2012 #12
I disagree, it will be where bigots eat daily, proudly NightWatcher Aug 2012 #8
I actually think the gay community ought to eat at Bonhomme Richard Aug 2012 #9
Unfortunately, they'd be enriching the coffers of that prick CEO who would bullwinkle428 Aug 2012 #10
You are probably right. n/t Bonhomme Richard Aug 2012 #15
well, they sure do seem to be making a ton of money out of it quinnox Aug 2012 #11
The exposure just creates a niche market for nutjobs that like chicken. Odious justice Aug 2012 #14
Is already being hurt. Bolo Boffin Aug 2012 #16
Post removed Post removed Aug 2012 #17
Gay rights matter a lot in DU lunatica Aug 2012 #22
Welcome to DU! Fumesucker Aug 2012 #23
because everyone's not a hatemonger spanone Aug 2012 #18
Public momentum is unstoppable now. randome Aug 2012 #21

FBaggins

(26,735 posts)
2. Are you saying that you think THEY think it's bigotry?
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 01:14 PM
Aug 2012

If not, might they not continue to eat there to support whatever they think they are supporting?

And if that's the case, the "hurt" will have to wait until some of those hearts are changed.

Bonhomme Richard

(9,000 posts)
3. I believe you are right. The last thing I would want is....
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 01:24 PM
Aug 2012

for my business to be in the middle of a partisan issue. The turnout yesterday was a sales "flash in the pan". That is all. Those people are not returning and frankly, they did it for themselves and for their warped cause more than they wanted to help a food chain.
The CEO made a serious mistake and I would bet that the majority of franchisees are furious. It is their investment that he is gambling with. Not his own.

jimlup

(7,968 posts)
4. Yeah they lost at least 4 customers that I know of personally
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 01:26 PM
Aug 2012

... And I think the number is actually significantly higher.

Odin2005

(53,521 posts)
5. I disagree.
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 01:26 PM
Aug 2012

Our society has become so polarized on social issues that a boycott cannot work, a boycott by one side will be countered by getting more customers from the other side.

KurtNYC

(14,549 posts)
20. People with negative ideas and no convictions are defeated by those with passion
Sun Aug 5, 2012, 02:09 PM
Aug 2012

everytime.

Love beats hate.

TeamPooka

(24,224 posts)
19. When was the last time you went to a Woolworth's?
Sun Aug 5, 2012, 02:06 PM
Aug 2012

People move on when the business doesn't reflect the times and social mores.

bullwinkle428

(20,629 posts)
7. Anyone recall the old "Sambo's" restaurant chain? If you can't, then my point is made.
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 01:37 PM
Aug 2012

Bueller? Bueller? Anyone? Bueller?

"Sambo's is a restaurant, formerly an American restaurant chain, started in 1957 by Sam Battistone Sr and Newell Bohnett. Though the name was taken from portions of the names of its founders, the chain soon found itself associated with The Story of Little Black Sambo. Battistone Sr and Bohnett capitalized on the coincidence by decorating the walls of the restaurants with scenes from the book, including a dark-skinned boy, tigers, and a pale, magical unicycle-riding man called "The Treefriend." By the early 1960s, the illustrations depicted a light-skinned boy wearing a jeweled Indian-style turban with the tigers. A kids club, Sambo's Tiger Tamers (later called the Tiger Club), promoted the chain's family image."

"By 1979, Sambo's had 1,200 outlets in 47 American states. However, in the late 1970s, controversy over the chain's name drew protests and lawsuits in communities that viewed the term Sambo as pejorative towards African-Americans, particularly in the Northeastern states. Several of the restaurants were opened as or renamed to "The Jolly Tiger" in locations where the local community passed resolutions forbidding the use of the original name or refused to grant the chain permits." (...well, well, well...isn't THAT interesting!)

"In March 1981, in a further attempt to give the chain a new image the company again renamed some locations, this time to "No Place Like Sam's".[4] By November 1981, the company filed for bankruptcy.[5] Neither the name change nor bankruptcy protection reversed the downward trend, and in 1982 all but the original Sambo's at 216 West Cabrillo Boulevard in Santa Barbara, California, closed their doors.[6] By February 1983, 618 of the locations were renamed Season's Friendly Eating.[7] Several locations were sold to Denny's."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sambo's


NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
8. I disagree, it will be where bigots eat daily, proudly
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 01:40 PM
Aug 2012

I drove by one today and the cars were lined up around he block and people were out the door. The smug bloated "christians" were proud that they had stuck it to the gays.

Bonhomme Richard

(9,000 posts)
9. I actually think the gay community ought to eat at
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 01:44 PM
Aug 2012

Chik-fil-a as much as they can stand it.
Two things would happen. The individual franchise owners would get to know that community much better and the right wing crazies wouldn't eat there anymore because the gays go there.

bullwinkle428

(20,629 posts)
10. Unfortunately, they'd be enriching the coffers of that prick CEO who would
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 02:13 PM
Aug 2012

turn around and send that "gay money" to hate groups, in an effort to further empower that discrimination.

Odious justice

(197 posts)
14. The exposure just creates a niche market for nutjobs that like chicken.
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 02:25 PM
Aug 2012

People will go out of their way to support it, and eventually, it will be forgotten. The company isn't practicing discrimination or doing anything illegal- its owned by a skygod follower. If they start denying service to openly gay people then its proverbial goose will be cooked. Until then, I'm sure they are enjoying the publicity and built in market. Even before this they were marketed as a "christian" company. Not much is going to change.

Bolo Boffin

(23,796 posts)
16. Is already being hurt.
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 03:43 PM
Aug 2012
http://www.brandindex.com/article/chick-fil-takes-hit-fast-food-eaters

YouGov BrandIndex measurement scores range from 100 to -100 and are compiled by subtracting negative feedback from positive. A zero score means equal positive and negative feedback.

On July 16th, the day the Baptist Press published its Dan Cathy interview, Chick-Fil-A's Index score was 65, a very substantial 19 points above the Top National QSR Sector average score that day of 46.

Four days later, Chick-Fil-A had fallen to 47 score, three points below the Top National QSR Sector average score of 50. This past Wednesday, Chick-Fil-A had a 39 score compared to the Top National QSR Sector average score of 43.

YouGov BrandIndex respondents in the South took Chick-Fil-A from an Index score of 80 on July 16th to its current 44. Chick-Fil-A's biggest drop took place in the Northeast, where it went from 76 to 35, a difference of 41 points.

Response to stopbush (Original post)

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
22. Gay rights matter a lot in DU
Sun Aug 5, 2012, 02:14 PM
Aug 2012

Your friends will be OK because free speech is a Constitutional right. Equal rights is still equal rights no matter what you think.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
21. Public momentum is unstoppable now.
Sun Aug 5, 2012, 02:14 PM
Aug 2012

Conservatives can't stop it. The church can't stop it. It's too late, haters!

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