"Wypipo" is not clever;

[MrsMatt]

it is divisive, hurtful, and a lazy stereotype.

Name the behavior, not the physical atribute.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

1. White people tend to not hear "racist," but they sure hear "wypipo."

[NurseJackie]

2. There ya go!

[ismnotwasm]

5. Yup.

[MrsMatt]

6. Are you calling me racist?

If so, fuck you.

If not, explain.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

14. Explain what?

You say you don't like the term. POC find it useful to describe problematic, insensitive, aggressive behavior from white people. Not sure what more there is to explain.

[Demsrule86]

19. don't you know you can't 'group' white people...why it simply can't happen because....

whatever, haven't figured out the reason...I am white by the way...and I could not give a damn about wypipo.

[MrsMatt]

25. Calling out shitty behavior

should not be based on skin tone.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

26. Just call it "reverse racism" so we can get to the part where I tell you "reverse racism" isn't a

thing.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

41. .

[ChubbyStar]

47. You really kept your cool here

Fantastic job!

[Blecht]

384. LOL

That little interchange was fun to read -- thanks.

[whathehell]

436. You can call it whatever you want, as long as you realize that it SUCKS

and won't work here.

[Doodley]

79. Thank you. Doing so is racist.

[Thekaspervote]

104. You're right okay! Now, if you don't want to be called a troll and divisive stop posting this

[NCTraveler]

119. Tell that to society. Nt

[whathehell]

122. Yeah, but everyone here is an individual, not "society"

so they can only respond as an individual.

[NCTraveler]

123. It does seem that some are that closed minded....

Going around with blinders on and caring only about self. Right you are when talking about some.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

252. Exactly!

[Cha]

75. You need to tone

it down.

[Cary]

313. We all need to tone it down if we want to win in November

[Cha]

315. Nah, I don't go around

cussing at everyone.

[Cary]

319. I didnt say you did.

That wasn't my point. I was precise in my choice of words. If we want to bicker and find fault with each other we will bicker and find fault. There is no challenge in that.

If we want to win in November we will.

Which is it? Maybe we can do both bicker/fault and win? I don't know but I don't risk it.

WE HAVE A NAZI IN THE WHITE HOUSE.

I dont shout often.

[Cha]

320. I know you didn't say I did, Cary. But, that

is why I felt it necessary to reply it to that poster. Never done that before.

[Cary]

325. Ok but I find this dispute disheartening

Not blaming you.

My race is officially Democrat now.

[Eliot Rosewater]

327. The disheartening part is that non POC are going on about the word

when a. if it doesnt apply to them why are they even talking about it and b. if it does apply to them NO reasonable conversation with them will work.

Yes, there is a Nazi in the WH and the FIRST people he has attacked are POC, Muslims, Latinos, Gays, etc. Non POC are on the list and we will be attacked also, for sure, but for now the Nazi Fascist Traitor and the SIXTY MILLION deplorables who support him are focusing on everybody but me.

RACE is the WHOLE reason ALL of this is happening.

RACE is why rump attacked Obama and it is why he got the deserving ROAST at that dinner those years ago that made rump want to DESTROY America as revenge on Obama and ALL of it is based in RACE.

All of it.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

355. Got that right Elliot... all of it indeed.

[Cary]

382. I have as much of a biological justification for my race, Democrat, as any other.

I subscribe to the ideology known as enlightenment self interest. Conveniently that was the ideology of.the founders.

It is not Ayn Rand's obfuscation known as rational selfishness.

As an ethnic Democrat who subscribes to enlightened self interest it is in my own interest to seek social justice and a society that maximizes the general welfare. That is every person must be enabled to reach their own potential.

On other words I do agree with you.

[Judi Lynn]

20. True! How could any one sane get whipped up over this? Great observation. n/t

[brush]

63. Wypipo is not the same as white people, just as blah people is not the same as black people.

Wypipo know who they are. They are the ones Santorum was dog whistling to, and who trump and repugs dog whistle to.

Not rocket science, it's just the tables are turned and the ones who are used to creating derogatory terms for POCs suddenly are confronted with on created by POCs about them.

[Doodley]

80. Wypipo is a phonetic spelling of white people.

[brush]

84. Of course it's that...but come on, we know it's more, racist behavior is connoted...

with its current usage as coined/appropriated on social media.

[Doodley]

103. It is as offensive as saying "blapipo are (insert worst stereotype here)" Is that acceptable? No.

It is racist. Please don't make excuses.

[brush]

106. You're not getting it. It doesn't mean white people. It connotes racist behavior...

of bigots.

Hard to keep up I know but social media/teh internet coins and appropriates terms much faster than the old days.

If ya don't engage in racist behavior it doesn't refer to you.

[Doodley]

115. So if "Blapipo" or "Homopipo" only refers to bad blacks or bad gays, that's okay? No it isn't.

Stop defending it. It is racist and offensive. Stop making excuses.

[brush]

117. Stop making up non-existent words and understand you don't control evolving...

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language. Your demanding people to stop defining bigots with the word wypipo is not going to stop because you want it to.

Again, it doesn't refer to you if you're not committing racist behavior like the wypipo in the recent spate of racist callers siccing cops on innocent black people and other POCs.

Get it? Those are wypipo.

[whathehell]

437. Does that mean we can start calling black men "thugs"

then tel! you it doesn't apply to you if you're not displaying criminal behavior?. If that won't work for you, then "wypipo" won't work for us.

[EffieBlack]

439. "Start?"

You're a little late to that party, Boo.

How often have you objected as loudly and vociferously to black men being called "thugs" - in the media, by elected officials, online, and other white people in communities across the country - as you have to a few people saying "Wypipo" on Twitter and DU?

[Eliot Rosewater]

452. Jesus are the butthurt so butthurt they are STILL whining about this?

[brush]

445. Did you just come to this country? Black men are already called thugs.

Give it a rest. You have no control over it.

[whathehell]

451. No, nor to DU either -- Black men are not called "thugs" here on DU

and THAT is what we are talking about -- How we will treat each other in THIS space -- We can't be responsible for the World..I'm no more responsible for White Racists than you are fot Black Criminals.

[brush]

454. Meaning what? You are not going to control language that evolves...

on twitter then spreads into society.

It's a waste of time.

[whathehell]

456. We're not talking about controlling language on Twitter

We're talking about language here on DU - That we certainly CAN control, and that's all we're talking sbout.

[brush]

458. Wypipo equals racists. If it doesn't apply, why worry about it?

[whathehell]

459. Thugs are criminals. if it doesn't apply, why worry about it?

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

146. It's obvious you don't get it.

[Doodley]

295. What I get is that some people continue to use a slang term that sounds like "white people," and

they seem to think it is a lot of fun, even though it is offensive to many.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

299. By definition, it's not meant to include ALL white people, so as NOT to offend...

those white people who are not wypipo.

[Doodley]

302. Whatever intention people may claim, some people including some of us here on DU, find it offensive

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

333. Well, I can't speak for POC, but I'm pretty sure they would say if

you're offended by wypipo, which is not meant to stereotype all white people, and you're still offended anyway, imagine how they must feel when they're referred to by racial epithets that are not intended to be self-limiting.

[Trust Buster]

152. You would think that would be obvious.

[heaven05]

160. it seems

you want to excuse racist behavior by wypipo by being so offended by a term coined to DESCRIBE racist-bigoted(like the potus) wypipo, Trump-bolton-Sessions are perfect examples of racist wypipo. There is no escaping that fact.

[ollie10]

287. the problem is we should describe individuals, not groups

individuals who are racists....we can call them racists....we can call them racist pond scum, which is the term I would prefer to use for racists.

However, with wipipo it is labeling a group....not only that, the label sounds like white people in general, not just the racist individuals within the group. Disingenuous at best. To make implications about an entire race of people is...using a word that is derogative....well we know what this is.....

[Doodley]

294. Thank you. Why do you think some people continue to use the phrase that is derogative?

[ollie10]

332. I honestly don't think many people use it

Internet/twitter slang.

*Originally Twitter slang or dialect that with read aloud sounds like "white people" which is its actual meaning.

However, use of the word in derogatory forms on social media accounts by the BLM movement and memes, have recently turned the word into a "Racial Slur"

Wypipo, be great at saving dat cash fur retirement, yo.

Slang equivalent to "nxxxer", but for white people. The word's origins have been traced back to the swamps of black twitter.\


https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=wypipo

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

336. Think how POC must feel then when racial epithets are used

to negatively label entire groups to which they belong - and where's the outrage of white people?! - and here you are offended by the term "wypipo," which, by definition, is limited to a certain group of white people and not intended to apply to, and thus offend, the entire group. Oh the irony!!

[MichMan]

392. So is the word "thug" now acceptable?

After all, it only applies to those committing crimes and does not apply to an entire group, right?

Why do so many people say it is racist then?

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

399. Because the word "thug" had been applied FAR more broadly...

WAY beyond just those who are guilty of commiting crimes, and primarily to POC, whereas wypipo is, by definition, limited in its application.

[Doodley]

293. You are aware some people find it offensive. Why do you keep using it?

[heaven05]

344. because

wypipo and its usage in context to describe a subset of white people is appropriate, that's why. Mr. Harriot HAS provided a great service in his article. The responses here and other places have shown me just how privileged and entitled white people KNOW they are and how ANY view of white people that does not meet their expectations will cause outrage against POC.

[Doodley]

357. Tell me how privileged you think I am. I was born into poverty. I was beaten and left for dead by

my father and still suffer every day. I had a breakdown when Trump was elected. I have spent my entire life standing up against those who use demeaning racial language, and I'm not going to stop now. You think you can call people childish and names and judge them based on their color. Who do you think you are?

[heaven05]

408. I do commiserate

life has never been fair for me growing up biracial in ameriKKKa in the 50's and 60's, part time in the south. And you have one here who understands both areas of personal pain and reaction to it you spoke of. I don't believe, after all of our conversations that you are racist, I just think you don't understand how racism impacts a POC. I hope one day you get it. I am a pissed off POC, that's who I think I am.

[ollie10]

280. Wipipo is the new W word

We shouldn't be inventing new derogatory words for groups of people. We need to use less of them, not more.

I would never use the N word. Nor would I use the W word, for similar reasons.

[Doodley]

292. Thank you for saying so.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

372. Wypipo is not derogatory in the least if you stick to the definition...

It's pretty clear wypipo doesn't apply to all white people.

[ollie10]

383. clear as mud, but nice try

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

388. What "nice try"? Why are you mangling the definition of wypipo... to suit your divisive purposes?

[Empowerer]

393. Because maintaining the right to define terms is critical to maintaining privilege ...

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

395. Yes, and wypipo are the ones who've been maintaining privilege for centuries.

[ollie10]

409. Do you really think calling groups names is unifying?

You start with a group (DU) most of us are in favor of civil rights and would find racism abhorent.

Then you start using a name that basically calls white people racists.

Some of us object to that. Others think anyone who objects must be an enemy.

But....we started out united believing in civil rights....now some are calling each other racists.

[SMC22307]

354. Let the "appropriation" whining begin!

I'm going to use the ever-loving shit out of *pipo. Or not.

[Doodley]

360. Whatever makes you feel clever.

[SMC22307]

368. Yeah, no. "Wypipo" is anything *but* clever.

But it does perpetuate a stereotype that black people don't speak properly. Why do that?

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

389. OMG, you just don't get it... never will I spose.

[SMC22307]

391. What I get is that name-calling is idiotic and counter-productive.

And don't anyone bother try to convince me "it's not about white people!" LOL If people need to get it out of their systems, fine. Have at it. Free speech and all that. Say whatever you want, but don't feign surprise if there are consequences.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

396. It's not so much about white people, as it is about their hypocrisy.

[EffieBlack]

403. I'm sure black people everywhere appreciate your concern about how other people perceive us

But if you claim you object to a word because it might perpetuate a negative stereotype of black people, who invented and use the word, you, too, might be "Wypipo."

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

429. You got that right EB, was thinkin' the same thing... wypipo alert!!

[EffieBlack]

430. And the hits just keep on coming, don't they?

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

432. Was agreeing with you... I thought, unless I misunderstood what you're saying.

[EffieBlack]

434. I was agreeing back ---

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

444. Oh okay, gotcha!

That's me on the right BTW... can't hold my liquor! haha!

[ollie10]

411. Come on. If it is not meant to mean white people...

....surely who ever thought up the term wypiple could have come up with a better and more descriptive word ...there is nothing in the term wypiple that even suggests it is a subgroup within white people, let alone racism. The word itself means white people

Oh..we already have a word that connotes racists.....bigot
...or my favotite: racist pond scum

Wypiple just don't cut it

[EffieBlack]

422. If it meant "white people," we would just say, "white people."

And it's not "Wypiple." It's "WYPIPO"

[ollie10]

423. If you want to say racist...

Then simply say racist or bigot....or one of many words that describe racism without conflating that with whites in general

It ain't rocket science. There are lots of words available

If one is not aware that using terms like nxxxr, dago, wop, dyke, fag, or wypipo can be inflamatory....then one needs to develop a lot morr sensitivity to diversity than one has

[EffieBlack]

424. If we wanted or meant to say "racist or bigot," we would just say, "racist or bigot"

The word means something very specific and it means exactly what the people who created it and use it mean to say. You don't need to edit it for them or instruct them on the words they SHOULD use.

Although your insistence on doing so - along with your belief that it is in anyway equivalent of the word "nigger'- is very instructive of why the word was created and exactly how it was meant to be used.

[ollie10]

426. Maybe you could step back

And realize that the word could be inflamatory

[EffieBlack]

427. If you are so susceptible to being "inflamed" by a word, maybe you should work on your own inability

to function in a diverse world where all discourse is not adjusted to suit your own personal comfort level and, if you still find it impossible to keep yourself from being triggered, perhaps you should consider stepping away and finding a different forum for discussions that are better suited to your particular sensibilities.

[ollie10]

447. would you get "triggered" if someone called you the N word?

or is it wrong to call you that name?

Sorry, if you cannot even imagine why the use of wipipo can be inflamatory, there is a problem here

[EffieBlack]

448. Are you suggesting that "Wypipo" is equivalent to "Nigger?"

You really want to go there?

[ollie10]

449. Calling a group a name.....

....be it wop, dago, kraut, nixxxr, fag, raghead, wetback.....is generally bad form to say the least.

Wypipo may not be the same player, but it is on the same team

Bottom line is the golden rule. Don't do onto others what you would not want to receive

[EffieBlack]

450. It's not on the same field, not in the same league and not worthy of being in the same conversation

and is only injected into these conversations purely as a means of diversion and an attempt to play the "Ooh! I get to be a victim, TOO!!!" false equivalence game - in the same vein as "Why do YOU get to say it but WE can't?!" pout. And I give these kind of clueless, craven false equivalencies the due they deserve.

Bye, Felicia.

[ollie10]

455. Bye. Have a good one

[ollie10]

463. How dare you imply

I would be into the ""Why do YOU get to say it but WE can't?!" pout"!!!!

I made it clear that I object to calling any group names, that we need to do less name calling, not more.

Yet you go off as if I were saying I wanted to join in the name calling!

I would recommend that in the future you would read someone's posts before making such an inaccurate insinuation.

[EffieBlack]

464. I said, BYE, Felicia ...

[Trust Buster]

150. +1000

[heaven05]

159. wypipo

as used by AA IS NOT RACIST. Black people cannot be racist since black people did not set up the institutional and systemic racism that racist wypipo have used for generations to oppress, kill, murder, execute unarmed AA-POC. PLEASE take note...

[sheshe2]

231. +++

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

253. +1,000,000!!

[Qutzupalotl]

282. Black people cannot be racist?

I beg to differ. Anyone can be racist.

I agree with the rest of your post, but it does not lead to your conclusion.

[heaven05]

284. I said

black people can be bigoted, prejudiced, not ever a racist. I stand by that and you are entitled to your opinion. It doesn't nor has it ever rang a bell with me as being the truth. Differ all you please

[Qutzupalotl]

288. If they're bigoted or prejudiced against a race, that's racist.

Perhaps if you clarified the distinction you are drawing between being racist vs. being bigoted or prejudiced, that would help me understand what you are saying here. I think of these terms as synonymous.

[tonedevil]

318. Ok if you want to be literal...

anyone can be racist if they use racial classifications to judge groups of people. That is pretty simplistic though, because if every black person in the US got together and declared any number of terrible things about all white people it would be ugly, but basically toothless. Racism as it affects black people in the US gets them arrested, shot by the police, shut out of employment, and generally treated as less than at significantly higher rates than white people in similar circumstances. The group that is out of power isn't in a position to cause the in group damage so it isn't a dynamic of equality.

[Qutzupalotl]

324. You're talking about power dynamics, and I don't dispute that.

But I won’t pretend words don’t mean what they mean. Racism doesn’t have to mean systemic racism; it can be individual, and I am saying no one is immune from that by virtue of skin pigment, as the poster above claimed.

[tonedevil]

326. Fine call black people racists...

you certainly have the privilege. I have no patience with this anymore as a white person I am just ashamed of what my fellows do and say.

[Qutzupalotl]

331. Not my words.

I’m calling all people potential racists because anyone can be. It’s behavior we must constantly guard against. It affects everyone and can infect anyone.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

356. All of this disagreement seems more a matter of definitions...

whether you're asserting someone is "racist," "wypipo" etc.

[Bucky]

415. That's just ridiculous

Sorry, you don't get to make up new definitions for long-established words. The fact that the black community generally does not have the power to perpetuate a system of racial discrimination and oppression does not mean at all the individuals who are identified as black are incapable of individual acts of hatred and discrimination.

The old formula goes racism equals hatred plus power. To say that black people cannot carry out acts of racism is to say black people are either emotionally incapable of hatred, or that every single black person in the country is entirely powerless. Either either possibility is inherently racist in itself

[heaven05]

443. BS nt

[Bucky]

467. Well argued.

my loquacious friend

[heaven05]

473. okay, my friend

we have perfect examples of WYPIPO living at 1600 Pennslyvania Avenue, running the DOJ, Education department and the head wypipo's "secret cabinet" who are Hannity, gorka, bannon and any other goddamn racist pig in trumps cabinet and administration. Argue that...

[EffieBlack]

446. "You don't get to ..."

I wasn't aware there were rules. But thank you for sharing with us how we're allowed and not allowed to vocabulate.

[Bucky]

468. Isn't that exactly what we're arguing about? How other people should treat us?

The only difference is that I'm saying everybody should treat everybody else with respect and it's wrong to use racially charged terms of derogation. And you're saying that it's okay to use a slur against white people.

You're arguing for bad manners.

[Afromania]

180. nah we just got nigger, jigaboo, coon, monkey, pickaninny, porch monkey, spade, spook,

sambo, tar baby, urban, nig-nog and let's not forget the modern day stand in for all of them "thug". If you want to run with blapipo go ahead because its at the bottom of a long ass list of names that come out of the mouths of not just white people in America but those in every corner of the fucking world a split second after they get ready to use them.

Hell, these words have been used and reused to degrade us so often that it isn't just white folks using them but people from other ethnicities. We are talking centuries of promotion from a dominant culture for language based attacks against black and brown people to take root like this. For anything, ANYTHING we say to be racist black people would have to control the levers of power that would make that word transcend a niche meaning within our community into a straight up world wide degradation for white people, everywhere. Not just here in America but the ones in Europe, Australia, Asia as well.

Of course it will never get that far because it's not aimed at a minority group that can be scapegoated and finger pointed at. The day that white people are in a minority and it's used as a way to further subjugate them via language it will be racist. The day somebody in China talks about how all "wypipo" are lazy and stupid and tantamount to pack animals. Then I'll say hey wait a minute you need to stop saying that because it's racist.

[Empowerer]

182. "urban"

[Afromania]

188. oh yea, forgot that one, thanks

[NurseJackie]

193. Your last paragraph nails it!

The day that white people are in a minority and it's used as a way to further subjugate them via language it will be racist.

Your last paragraph nails it! Especially this sentence. Well done!

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

255. Well said.

[ollie10]

281. wouldn't it be better simply to call someone John or Mary, call them by name?

[Afromania]

348. sure. the problem is that white people have a natsy habit of attaching ugly labels to ALL

black and brown peoples in America and have been doing so for centuries. Now, once the new nicknames stop cropping up with the existing ones completely repudiated and withdrawn from general use by the greater majority of white folks as negative descriptors for the entirety of these communities; then we can seriously talk about individuality.

[ollie10]

350. You really think the great majority use such words?

Really?

[Afromania]

351. nope, but the greatmajority are going to have to put an end to it. The people that do are going to

need the people that don't to shame them into stopping it. This is not a problem black and brown people can fix or even begin to address. The majority of white people the 53% that voted for trump either don't care enough to stop it or engage in it themselves. The 47% are going to have to work on convincing them to stop.

So yea again its going to have to be withdrawn AND repudiated by the greater majority of white people. That's two thoughts in one statement; not one overarching one.

[ollie10]

386. I am in my 60s

And I have noticed a great change in civil rights during my life time.

Today, even most racists would not use the N word in public. Even they have learned that this isn't cool to say in public.

I am not saying there is no racism, nor am I saying nobody uses the N word. What I am saying is that it is only the fringe lunatics, white supremacists, nazis, etc who would use the N word in public.

So as far as the "greater majority of white people"....they don't go around using the N word and the greater majority are offended by it.

[SMC22307]

359. Polack, kike, mick, frog, chink, jap, cracker, bohunk, honky...

ugly labels have been attached to pretty much everyone. Howzabout we stop using them altogether?

[Afromania]

373. two of those in your list fall under the same bit I stated about wypipo. The rest of them came from

the American white person about other groups in this county. So, once again American white folks need to go about cutting that shit out and combating anybody else in their group that wants to use them. White people in this country have had centuries to stop negatively labeling everybody else. CENTURIES, and as one name is shamed out of the public vernacular another one takes its place, another way of saying it takes its place. The old words are said behind closed doors but never forgotten until they resurface.

Your argument about we stop using them has to start with somebody and that somebody is not black and brown people. We didn't start this mess in America and nothing we say can continue it. The people that keep this going is the segment of white people that hate, distrust and have it out for black and brown people. It's not all white people but it's more than enough of them that this shit won't die.

Before you come at me with not using them you have got to take your message to them and figure out why they are so afraid of a non existing threat that they have to create new negative and disparaging terms for it. They hate me so much for nothing that there is not a damn thing I say is going to stop them from being racist and bigoted as hell. We turn the other cheek and they slap it. We march peacefully and they turned dogs n shit on us, now they turn the police on us when they can. We were lynched, beaten, raped, disenfranchised and labeled for nothing, NOTHING. We are now assaulted, red-lined, profiled and lynched via calls to the police. The onus to fix this is NOT with us.

[SMC22307]

387. Jesse Jackson - "hymies"; Michael Jackson - "sue me, jew me, kike me"

Al Sharpton - "diamond dealers"

I could list more. Ain't just white people, my friend.

We all need to stop with the name-calling. But if "wypipo" makes you feel better, have at it. But just remember, while you're ranting on Twitter, whites are still enjoying privilege, higher concentrations of wealth, better schools, better healthcare, safer drinking water, more favorable loan terms, etc.

The vast majority of us are not your enemy. And the Trumpanzees ranting against YOU are ranting against the rest of us as femi-nazis, homos, godless libtards, baby killers, gun grabbers, etc., sometimes resulting in violence and death.

United, not divided.

[Afromania]

394. Please, trump has whipped out more bigoted bullshit in the last year and a half all by hisself

and I don't see any of his "white people" supporters calling him out on that shit. So it's him plus 60+ million more of those assholes twiddling their thumbs about it. Now your statement But just remember, while you're ranting on Twitter, whites are still enjoying privilege, higher concentrations of wealth, better schools, better healthcare, safer drinking water, more favorable loan terms, etc Is exactly why nothing any black person says makes a lick spit of difference in dividing anything, and it isn't changing anything so I'm not sure what your point is other than, oh I know what it is, you're trolling me and want me to get all pissy and want to show me my place. Yea, nah that's ok but it only confirms where I know you're coming from comrade, troll or whatever else.

The fact of the matter is that the people the term describe have already made their decision about where they stand. The term is not for them, as for your examples of what 3 black men have said in particular. Are we using any of those terms to define anybody at this moment, in the now, not 30 years ago. Further more did it result in the deaths of anybody, anywhere, ever? No, ok, this is not an equivalency on both sides discussion because it would take about 600 years, countless, COUNTLESS deaths and the complete reversal of a global cultural system of hate and bigotry before it could even begin to.

If you are on my side then hear me when I say that the term is not meant to be on the same page as any of the insults I listed or any of the ones you listed for you or anybody like you it's squarely aimed at those who want to refuse to give up their racist and bigoted ways. The ways of those people kill black and brown people every day, EVERY DAY. Their words are used to incite to defame to label and verbally suppress black and brown people. Are you currently demeaned or otherwise. Have any black or brown people used any words anywhere to incite to violence against you or do you know anything more than some quasi equiliivent singled out incidents that make it "ain't just white people".


Yea I'm done you can argue with yourself.

[heaven05]

338. +++

truth

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

362. THIS

[Bucky]

417. I'm white and I don't use those words of derision

Because I am not an asshole.
Because I do not want to be racially divisive.
Because I do not want to waste my time and energy defending hatred.
Because I do not want to waste your attention on unimportant matters.
Because I believe in a civil society.
Because I hate bigotry.

[whathehell]

124. Only if you pronounce the "L" in people

like an "o"

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

361. Yes, pronounced like asking the poet the reason for his urinating... why-pee-poe.

[NatBurner]

85. right?

if the shoe don't fit?
good
stand with me against those that stomp around in that particular doc marten with red laces

[brush]

95. Translate please.

Dr. Martens with red laces? Is that an alt-right reference?

[heaven05]

162. it's a boot

the alt-right nazi-white nationalist racists tend to wear so they can stomp the shit out of POC.

[brokephibroke]

352. You nailed it.

I'm white and not offended at all.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

358. People claiming not to understand the meaning of wypipo, could that be the 1st sign of being wypipo?

[Bucky]

414. I honestly don't know who you're making fun of when you say wypipo

Because you're just saying the words white people in a funny way.

I once had a co-worker use the n-word in front of me. I snapped at her "Don't use that word in front of me."

She apologized and said she was angry. And then she added "Not all black people are niggars."

She sounded as ridiculous in that moment as you do when you say not all white people are wypipo. You know exactly what you're saying. Stop being a tool of social and political divisiveness.

(NB: I shouldn't have to add this, but for the record, I am not saying that a slur against white people has the same historical weight and ugliness as the n-word. Obviously we are not talking about four centuries of oppression & state terror with the use of the word wypipo. But it's still damn rude.)

[ExciteBike66]

153. Seriously?

I don't really have a side on the "wypipo" debate, but white people CERTAINLY react to being called racists. Some white folks (a very small amount, surely) don't mind being called racist, but for all of us "normal" white people, it's a terrible thing to be called.

S**t, why do you think racism is so much more hidden these days? It's because even the racist white people don't actually want to be known as racists.

[heaven05]

163. wait a minute

Racism is so much more open now. The virulence of the hate has me looking over my shoulder to make sure no one is trying to 'sneak' the old man. It's not hidden, just ask your potus, bolton, bannon, gorka, jones. HIDDEN!!!!!????????

[ExciteBike66]

166. My point is that 99% of white people do not wish to be called a racist

The post to which I responded implied that white folks don't care about that label, which I dispute.

The very lengths that racists go to couch their opinions in "neutral" sounding language supports my argument. Trump himself has said racist things and then gone to great lengths to try to convince us what he said wasn't racist at all. This is the effect of the label of "racist".

[KitSileya]

259. 99% of us white people sure hate being called racist, but a lot more than 1% are racists,

either overtly through belief or inadvertently through not examining our privilege. Wypipo is a good word to use for that racist group, especially those who do racist things simply because they are so convinced they and their experience are the norm that they cannot even see that other groups may have a completely different view of what is happening in our society.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

168. My point is that when white people are told their actions are racist, they tend to deny or minimize

it, because if it's not a cross-burning, they're not actually racist. But they sure holler when they hear "wypipo."

[ExciteBike66]

169. They care about both labels, but react differently to each?

I think we agree on that then.

[Empowerer]

185. It's almost always wrong to accuse any white person who hasn't burned a cross of racism because

you don’t REALLY know what’s in their hearts and when don’t know the entire story and we need more facts. And, in fact, questioning the act or criticizing the person is in itself racist.

But using the word “Wypipo” is racist, period.

[Skidmore]

385. Some of the worst

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racists never burn crosses. They fly under the radar. Their intolerance is masked in platitudes and side glances.

[cagefreesoylentgreen]

238. They don't always know what racism is

I’m Asian American. I used to have this one white friend who told me point blank Asians were responsible for their own racial victimization because “we were too nice and polite” to say otherwise. When I pointed out that was a racist stereotype, she immediately became defensive and claimed she couldn’t be racist because she likes “Asian culture.”

She then proceeded to tell me I was overreacting to racist remarks.

We don’t talk anymore.

(And “Asian culture” is in quotes because no such monolithic thing exists.)

[salin]

241. good point and example.

thanks.

[JustAnotherGen]

198. Bravo!

Funny how that works - right?

[Iggo]

244. Weird, that.

Except for the part where it's not weird at all.

[Bucky]

413. I disagree. I think everybody react strongly to being called racist

People go into denial when it is pointed out that using the phrase wypipo is racist, for example.

[whathehell]

441. Yes, and one can quibble about it's being "racist" or "bigoted"

but both are unacceptable on a Democratic board, and that's the beginning and end of it, AFAIC.

[Bucky]

466. yep

except that apparently some forms of bigotry are acceptable among the "left-but-not-liberal" set.

Very disappointing. My only consolation is that in the long run they kinda don't matter.

[whathehell]

472. Lol..You're kidding, right?

It's more like hearing nothing but "racist", especially on this board.

[scarletwoman]

3. That IS the name of a behavior.

If that's not how you behave, then don't worry about it.

[oberliner]

4. Michael Harriot should not be posted here

He is anti-Democratic Party.

[irisblue]

12. Source for that assertion please? Thanks.

[Docreed2003]

13. He didn't invent the term...

And White people gonna white

[hurple]

30. Dear lord...

I LOVE this!

"White people gonna white"



I'm gonna use this. Where do I send royalties?

[Docreed2003]

71. Lmao...

please do use this...all royalties should go to your local HBC!!

[EffieBlack]

49. You are SO wrong

[Docreed2003]

68. White people gonna white people

What can I say Effie???

[OneGrassRoot]

52. lolol!!!

[Docreed2003]

72. I mean...

Lmao!!!

[tblue37]

97. OMG! That is hilarious! nt

[SMC22307]

365. That's bullying. Like the guy fat-shamed while dancing at a club...

and the social media uproar about how he was treated. I forget who stepped up -- Pharrell? -- by throwing some sort of bash for him.

Howzabout we all just act like adults and stop making fun of people?

[Docreed2003]

370. Huh??

Please point to where I was "fat shaming" or "bullying"? It's a gif...which happens to be funny...

[SMC22307]

376. You think it's funny. I think it's bullying of a white guy...

letting loose. Why make fun of people? Christ, are we 12?

[Docreed2003]

377. Lol...ok

[MichMan]

401. Well, we are using a word that sounds like it was pronounced by a toddler........

[Bucky]

470. Thank you.

If we laugh at ourselves, it's empowering. It builds bridges of understanding and camaraderie.

If we laugh at others, it's intending to hurt them. It builds walls and resentment. I think our society has enough walls.
If there's something to gain by it, I could support a wall. But from my view, there's no gain.

On the other hand, I can certainly understand the view of POCs who see white community as a monolithic whole intent on harming them. It may not be objectively true, but it's not like anti-racist whites are having much impact on the overall white power establishment. Cops are still killing unarmed teens on the regular with impunity. Wealth disparity is still sharply divided along racial lines and most of the whites who fall south of the poverty line are invested in perpetuating America's racial divides and prejudices.

We are at a social impasse, I think. We need leadership that will forge a new paradigm of a shared cause. Finding a shared cause is always a good unifier. Lord knows what it could be. But choosing among leaders who are embedded in old animosities (most recently the Bernie-Hillary divide) won't be shaking up anybody's paradigm. We need progress.

[salin]

29. Do you really think this is only about this writer and his opinions, and not a phenomenon beyond

the writer? I had never heard of the author.

But have read countless encounters from former students (now in college or beyond) who only use the expression in response to a demeaning encounter with some one (white person) that was so demoralizing to the individual that they shared the frustration and experience on face book - or other social media. It is about specific behaviors.

I don't know whether Michael Harriot coined the term, or just wrote about a term that grew out of social experience, but where I have seen it used it has not been connected to him - or his politics.

It hasn't been a condemnation of all white people. It has been an used as an exhausted expression of an individual experience of public demeaning/belittling or worse by a jerk - using a frame of racial prejudice so vocally as a rational for the demeaning behavior. The expressions have never been in relation to Michael Harriot, or his writing critical of the democratic party.

But somehow, reading your posts over the recent past, because of "Michael Harriot's" writing, I should ignore detailed experiences that students I worked with as an academic administrator for 6 years (6-12 school), even when those experiences ring true, because ... you remind us...of this writer, or you write passive aggressive OPs countering other posts.

Sorry. While I see the the fish hook, the dangling shiny object and the bait just aren't attracting me to bite the worm.

[heaven05]

167. ++ nt

[Empowerer]

249. +++

[gollygee]

54. I thought the term originated on twitter

If you do a twitter search for "wypipo" on twitter it is allll over the place. I imagine he read it on twitter and started using it as well.

[heaven05]

165. How many times

did a certain candidate's words, photos ect appear here. After it was all over, before that person appeared, that person was quoted MANY TIMES as saying, I am not a Democrat and don't want to be a Democrat. That's pretty anti Democratic Party.

BS on your post.

[Empowerer]

250. Funny thing, that, but are you allowed say that around here?

[sharedvalues]

7. Remember troll tactics: work in teams, work BOTH sides of a divisive issue (like wypipo)

I'm not saying you're a troll, far from it.

But let's keep in mind paid troll tactics.
The main goal is to find a divisive issue and keep it in the headlines with repeated posts.
Trolls work in teams and play both sides of the divisive issue.
Trolls reply to each other to create engagement.

Here's a Guardian article that describes all these tactics: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/apr/02/putin-kremlin-inside-russian-troll-house

Again, I'm NOT saying that the OP is a troll, just reminding everyone the ways some divisive issues can damage our community. Let's be aware.

[gollygee]

9. So people shouldn't talk about racism?

People at DU talk about a trillion issues where there's disagreement, but I don't see threads about the other issues getting this thrown at them.

[sharedvalues]

15. It's important to talk about divisive issues

But repeated re-discussion of divisive issues is a technique trolls use to destroy communities (and cultures!).

It's important to talk about divisive issues, and it's also important not to allow divisive issues to take over discussion. For every painful issue like racism, perhaps we should try to make one post that is positive and about our values.

[heaven05]

171. well a piece of hot lead

entering the body of an unarmed AA or a rope around a neck while in a jail cell are divisive issues and ends any discussion of white racist hate and the ignorance. Racism has been and is willfully perpetuated by racists on their victims. That is a continuing statement if I ever experienced one. White racism should be talked about ad infinitum, shouted from the rooftops as to how white hate destroys ameriKKKa's lies about being an all-inclusive democracy and it should be discussed for the next 150+ years and as long as the head racist in the WH and AG Office are governing a nation of diverse peoples/cultures.

White racism must remain the subject of many conversations and discussions, ALWAYS. That is if ameriKKKa wants peace, which, with that goddamn potus in charge, I don't think the people like him want peace among our diverse citizens. REALLY.

[MrsMatt]

10. I've been a DU member since

shortly after Paul Wellstone died (check my profile, if unsure).

I don't post much, because by the time I formulate my thoughts, somene else has already stated them more eloquently than I am able.

[sharedvalues]

11. Yes I'm not calling you a troll, just saying we should work to unify on divisive issues

Let's try to find common constructive positive ground on the issues we care about.

[Kajun Gal]

24. Not everyone is a "troll". Chk yourself...

[Demsrule86]

17. Ah, I see.

[sharedvalues]

40. p.s. RIP Paul Wellstone...

[BlueTsunami2018]

8. I just find it to be childish and stupid.

But, it’s a free country. If that’s how you want to look, go for it.

[NatBurner]

88. it's just a hip shorthand for a particlar behavior

if the shoe don't fit don't force it

[phylny]

139. I agree.

It makes me turn away from discussions about race instead of learning from them (and add people to my ignore list whom I might otherwise have learned from). I'm a white woman. I understand that there are many racist white people. The discussion can absolutely be had without divisive, petty name calling.

I feel the same way about the terms "redneck" and "hillbilly." The terms are meant to be demeaning to an entire group of people.

[Trust Buster]

155. +1000

[heaven05]

173. "rednecks and hillbillys"

are "groups of people" not hung or shot on a regular basis like other demeaned groups in ameriKKKa these days. I understand also that there are many, MANY racist wypipo in ameriKKKa who have been emboldened and enabled by trump and sessions these days. Anti-racists are not divisive or petty by adding to the language a term that points out a behavior that other countries, in modern times, S.A. comes to mind now with its now-defunct apart-hate(apartheid) was learned from segregated ameriKKKa. You don't think hitler and his racist, bigoted group didn't learn some of their lessons of racist hate from ameriKKKa?

[phylny]

178. Yes, I understand people of color have been hanged and shot. It's horrific.

I also understand and believe that society does not gain more harmony and cooperation when people use derogatory, divisive, petty, hateful names for another group of people.

My people were WOPS, Guineas, and Dagos. None of them were hanged or shot. Do you think those names were in any way helpful?

[heaven05]

232. I see

wypipo, as a description of a certain type of white person who is racist, petty, hateful or divisive. My people were called n*****s. One word white people use to degrade a whole race of people with hopes, aspirations, dreams, who are POTUS, FLOTUS(calling her a monkey enraged, offended and hurt me), doctors, lawyers, astronauts, soldiers, sailors, fly planes and goddamit a lot of people take all that sacrifice and education and trash it with ONE word. A lot of white people just don't understand the extreme damage racism has done and IS DOING(trump-sessions)to all people in this country, POC or not.

Wypipo they are and will stay in my book.

It did take me a minute to get to what wypipo meant and in what context to use that word.

[phylny]

233. I understand what it means. Of course, I can never understand your experience.

I have not lived your experience, and I defer to your knowledge and point of view.

I never, ever use or tolerate the "n" word. It's vile. I never, ever tolerated people speaking disrespectfully about President Obama, his beautiful wife or family, or any people using one word or disrespectful words.

I agree that there are many white racists. I disagree on using a derogatory term for any group of people. Using ONE word. I find "nicknames" for groups of people to be sophomoric and harmful. If you find it enjoyable and powerful to use that word, then who am I to say no? Have at it. I will say, however, that I will refuse to further engage in conversation that could have educated me and helped me be even more of an ally due to the use of ONE word.

It's meant for one reason. It's not descriptive. It's a slur. That's my experience. I'm not "butthurt" (not your word, but used by others). I'm just trying to go high. As my best president's wife advised.

[heaven05]

462. I respect your opinion

and your principles and integrity. I am not going to debate wypipo any longer. I am going to try not to add acrimony to the debate(s) here. Got to start concentrating on the upcoming elections and the destruction, as much as possible, of the Nazi movement in ameriKKKa that has moved into 1600.

Yes, I am going to try to remember "go high" in these upcoming months, when possible..

[whathehell]

433. Then just call them racist, hateful, petty and divisive

Those words are fine -- Why the need for a race-based nickname?

[EffieBlack]

435. They are using language that they choose to use to convey what they want to convey

and don't need others to tell them how they should express themselves - although the insistence on doing it anyway (as well as the clueless sense of entitlement to so) helps to illustrate the very thing they are describing.

[Empowerer]

192. If you "turn away" from a discussion about a difficult topic because you don't like the way it's

framed, you’re not really interested in it in the first place. You’re just looking for an excuse not to deal with it.

[phylny]

201. I disagree. If someone uses language that's derogatory toward another group,

the discussion isn't worth having because that person has proven to me that they're more interested in name calling, and less interested in having a discussion to help me gain better understanding.

I will eagerly learn from people who can engage with respectful conversation. I will not engage with people who are abusive. Period.

[kwassa]

207. I don't think "Wypipo" is derogatory, it is humorous.

and if you are more upset about the term rather than the behavior described, your priorities might need some adjustment.

[phylny]

209. I'm not upset. YOU think it's humorous.

I think it's derogatory. That's the difference. I am able to engage in conversation, even on difficult topics, without using divisive terms. It's not that hard.

And I think my lifetime of prioritizing respect toward all people speaks for itself.

[kwassa]

219. It is derogatory about a subset of white people based on their behaviors.

and if it is divisive, I don't care. Using the word divisive is an excuse to avoid dealing with real issues.

[phylny]

220. You mean white racists?

Yes, there are white racists. Not a nickname, a defining name for the behavior you are discussing and unfortunately, perhaps experience(d).

I respect that you don't care. That's certainly your right. And because you don't care, I'm unlikely to listen and learn from you, as I may have, because of the disrespect I view.

[EffieBlack]

236. No. "White racist" doesn't properly doesn't accurately describe this particular subset of

white people.

That's why someone came up with and lots of people have adopted the term "Wypipo,' which expresses exactly what they mean.

[Demsrule86]

16. Really...another one of these?

I tell you what it may be...not worth discussing.

[Thekaspervote]

58. Agree with that! What is the big deal... let it go

[Demsrule86]

349. I have no idea why it matters in the least.

[Docreed2003]

18. Let it go...seriously

Is it hurting you? No

The whole "Wypipo" meme is a joke on the way certain subsets of "white folk" do stupid "white folk" things...it's not mocking all whites, it's not calling white peope racist, it's comedy..punching up!

[MrsMatt]

21. And when white people are in the minortiy

As I believe they will be in 50-75 years, it will still be OK?

Name calling is wrong.

[Docreed2003]

28. Omg..."name calling"

I'm so sorry you're offended by "white people"! Call me in 50 years and I'd love to hear your complaints when "white people" are in a minority!!!
I'll still be laughing in my rocking chair!!

[salin]

62. Name calling is worse than calling police on PoC over dumb stuff

like bbqing, sleeping in a dorm (I did grad work at Stanford - and yes, stressed out students fell asleep while trying to study in public places, but 20 yrs ago I never recall the police being called about it), shopping (multiple recent episodes in which no stolen items were found after degrading shoppers whose only "crime" was shopping while black), etc.

Seriously, "name calling" (wypipo to describe the actions of folks making these phone calls), is worse than the experience of those fellows citizens who have done nothing wrong except exist in the ways that all of us do?

Seriously?

This is an awakening - if we pay attention to the stories, the behaviors, and start to self-correct as a society. I am not offended by the term - as a white person.

Is it worse for you, in your opinion, that folks who experience events like having the police called on you because in your own dorm, where you live and go to school, because you are sleeping in a commons area, because some people in describing the behavior of the student calling the police wypipo?

I am sorry. There is a point of perspective - if you can't recognize the degree of degradation that is different between those to spaces (being called wypipo, for a specific action, vs. having that action enacted upon you) that I just can't understand.

[meadowlander]

69. Nobody said it was worse. And why compare them when they both suck?

If we're only ever allowed to call out crappy behavior when there is no other behavior that is any worse, then how dare you complain about calling police on PoC over dumb stuff when people are being murdered and raped?

Childish name calling doesn't make the situation better. It just turns the conversation into a long debate about the childish name calling and not the actual issue (calling the police on PoC over dumb stuff).

[whathehell]

129. Um, no, but it's not an "either/or" situation

and it still sucks..

[Caliman73]

78. Minority status has never stopped White people from subjugating others.

White people were the minority in South Africa for the entire existence of the country yet the minority of White South Africans held all of the political power and their laws made it impossible for Black South Africans to live successfully until global pressure made that situation untenable.

In US history, White people were the minority yet subjugated the Native American population and in the South, they were also the minority yet they held all of the political, economic, and social power.

This isn't about minority status. This is about White people continuing to insist that there has not been a world wide problem with their subjugation and control of large populations of non-White people.

Perhaps it is about anxiety that White people might, just might see a bit of retribution for what they have done? Though very likely not.

One word used by people of color, typically among themselves, to express frustration, is not a sign of impending enslavement of White people.

Name calling is wrong, but then again so is centuries of systematic disenfranchisement beginning with physical brutality, legal discrimination, social pressure, and economic injustice which is still in effect today as typified by the sitting president and his followers while supposed allies of racial equality lecture people of color about the use of a silly and impolite term.

[herding cats]

83. I can't believe I just read this here.

Ok, I guess it's nice to see some proactive concern for what might, potentially be racism 2-3 generations down the road? Which even 100 years from now won't begin to hint at the hundreds of years of sanctioned racism in this country.

Now, how about what's taking place in the here and now to already born people living though actual real (not potential future) racism daily?

Can you not see how narrow minded, lacking in empathy, petty and selfish such thinking seems to those living through such right now on a daily basis?

[Dyedinthewoolliberal]

109. Is that what this is really about?

If you are white, as I am, then I venture to say you have NEVER experienced the receiving end of racist behavior. If you do your best to be fair and non judge mental to all people, regardless of race or ethnicity, then the term doesn't apply to you. You seem very defensive about this.....

[WhiteTara]

151. Yep. I think whites are the minority in the world

today. Look at GOPees, they are in a minority and still they are disgusting and spew hatred everywhere and they are always going to be wypipo.

[tonedevil]

199. Write this again...

in 50 or 75 years it may have a point by then. Until that it's moot.

[Bucky]

420. I don't think you get to tell people what they are offended at

I just know that's exactly how every bully in the world rationalizes his own bad behavior.

And, sure, the use of this slur doesn't carry the weight and power of the white establishment that perpetuates a system of racial hatred in America.

But it seems ridiculous to excuse bullying just because it's ineffective bullying.

[Kajun Gal]

22. Used to be "crackers"...

[Docreed2003]

73. Crackers??? Lmao

(It's funny because I'm the whitest loaf bread, cracker ass, honky I know!!)

[Caliman73]

81. Actually, the term cracker was used by wealthier land owning Whites to dehumanize poor Whites.

As were the term Hillbilly and Clay eater. Words that people of color have used to denote White people have usually not held much sway because people of color had no political or social power.

[Docreed2003]

90. I know very well the origins of the term "Cracker"

My use of the term was meant to be both a joke and an ironic slam on myself! I'm a product of sharecroppers and I'm damn proud of that, but I will never apologize for poking fun at myself, it's comedy!!!

[Caliman73]

224. Cool.

I wasn't intending to make a slight. Just inserting some information for those who might not know the origin.

[WhiteTara]

154. Cracker is a term used to denote the man with a whip--the cracker.

[Dyedinthewoolliberal]

271. don't forget

White Trash.........

[nini]

213. I always liked honkys myself

[Blue Owl]

23. Pipo... Who Need Wypipo...

Are the dumbest pipo in the world...

[brush]

76. Ahhh...we saw what you did there.

[Bucky]

419. Ha!

thank you

[Eko]

27. When you are part of a people that has been

doing all kinds of horrible things to others for hundreds of years and are still doing it,
don't be offended because they give you a itty bitty slap.

[MrsMatt]

31. What gave it away?

My profile picture?

You don't know who the fuck I am and what I believe.

You know NOTHING about me.

I just think that labeling people according to their physical attributes is wrong.

People can adjust their behavior, but not their skin tone.

[Eko]

36. Im sorry, what.

You most certainly can adjust your behavior, as I did not come at you with any profanity. Maybe you should take a step back and take a deep breath buddy.

[Eko]

38. Oh yeah, I forgot.

This is the part where you apologize.

[NurseJackie]

46. That ship has sailed.

[Eko]

51. I believe it sank.

Actually. As always thanks for your support NurseJackie.

[NurseJackie]

65. ❤️

💋👄🍷

[heaven05]

175. you are right

people can adjust their behavior. It just seems that after generations of having a chance to do that very thing, wypipo can't and still see AA as n****rs. Even the potus has made that point clear. He's wypipo, Bolton? wypipo. Sessions? wypipo

[7962]

43. "part of a people"? So what crimes do you accept blame for, being "part of a people"?

Wow.
Without many millions of us terrible white folk Pres Obama would have never been elected. Or re-elected.
Take that broad brush somewhere else. DU is supposed to be a place where everyone is treated equally & with respect. Or is it just the "right" people?

[Eko]

50. lol, as a white person.

I accept that my grandfather who was in the military got free college and then great interest on loans, it enabled, as well as his hard work, to buy multiple houses that he could then give away to each of his kids, and then to my generation like my brother so he has a house for his kids. If you dont know that African Americans did not get this kind of treatment, then you should educate yourself. This is one of many, many things.
Of course, I never said anything about "terrible white folk" anywhere, thanks for putting words in my mouth. And if you have cause to question my whiteness, feel free to preuse my previous posts where I say it. And if that dont work, PM me your cell or email and I will happily take a picture of myself and send it to you. Good grief.
One last thing, where did I not treat someone with respect, did I use profanity or put words in someones mouth? No, so, have fun.

[Trust Buster]

156. +1000

[heaven05]

176. Tell this BS

to people who are now in charge and have emboldened and enabled many, many, MANY wypipo(racists) to slime out of the sewers to openly hate anyone not white, KKKristian, nazi, white supremacists-nationalist.

Without millions and millions of wypipo voting for racist-in-chief, he would never have had a chance to steal this last election, with help from his russian buddies. They are wypipo also, by the way.

Yeah, thanks for the Obama vote. Didn't change a goddamn thing. Gave us 8 years of a relatively stable country and provided us with a beautiful First Family. Our FLOTUS was competent and beautiful. Didn't need to plagiarize anything.

Get over it.

[7962]

239. And here you prove the point of those saying its a derogatory term;"wypipo""racists"

HRC got the MOST votes and likely would again.
I know, I know, the country is racist, everyones a racist or a nazi and the whole world is out to get you. But you know what? Those people are also in EVERY COUNTRY on this planet. And they are NOT the majority here by ANY measurement. Not even close.
I'm sorry for whoever made you SO bitter about this country that you refuse to focus on anything but the negative when there are so many positives out there every day. If all I did was focus on those who have done me wrong, I'd never be able to progress into the future and make a living.
Obamas victories proved that it can & will happen again. Maybe with a black female next time around. Maybe as soon as '20; there will be some good candidates running.

[heaven05]

243. please, no

[Doodley]

96. So we should take responsibility for what our ancestors did that we have never met?

I am white, but I am not any part of slavery or suppression or discrimination. I am not proud or ashamed of what my skin color happens to be, but don't go blaming me or other good white progressive people for things they are not responsible for.

[EffieBlack]

118. You didn't fight in the Revolution or sign the Declaration of Independence, either. Do you celebrate

the Fourth of July?

It's interesting that Americans LOVE to celebrate the good things our Founding Fathers and other forbearers did, as if their acts infused some special nobility into our bloodstreams many generations hence. But the minute anyone mentions any negative aspect of that same history, folk go all "I wasn't there and I don't know those people" on us.

As I've said before, this is not a smorgasbord where we can pick and choose the parts we want and the parts we want to leave on the bar. If we embrace any part of our history, we have to own it all.

And this is all beside the point of the advantages that most white Americans enjoy today as a result of the privileges earlier generations took full advantage of - such as the ability to start building generational wealth decades before blacks were afforded the same opportunity. That's a whole 'nother conversation ...

[Doodley]

125. I don't own anything anybody did before I was even born. I was not born in America and

don't own America's history - black or white. I celebrate Easter even though I am an atheist. I celebrate Christmas, even though I don't believe in Santa. If I choose to celebrate July 4th, that does not mean I support the racism of the founding fathers either.

[heaven05]

184. you are in ameriKKKa

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taking advantage of what's offered here in entitlement and privilege. This thread and a lot of responses have shown me how hate and racism are perpetuated and defacto accepted as just an ameriKKKan way of life. And a lot of people wish it could be swept under the rug instead of being the huge elephant that has been running amok in the god damn china shop for generations.

I feel racism against POC survives just because a MAJORITY of white people are NOT ready to lose their claim on real entitlement and privilege offered to their race.

[Doodley]

291. I'm in America, but have no more reason than you or anyone else to be held responsible for all

the bad stuff Americans have done before I was born or before I arrived in America. I think I have made it clear that I am disgusted by the racism that I see every day in America. What do you want? Do you want me to apologize for being white? Okay, I am sorry I am white. I am sorry there are so many white racists, including Donald Trump. I despise everything the white bigots represent. On the night of the election when it became clear Trump was going to win, I went out and laid in the middle of the street and broke down. My world was shattered, because every value I hold it is anathema to Trump and his band of bigots. No, I don't accept it. We are Democrats at DU. That means we reject it. We are all on the same side. Let's not define the character of any of us by our color.

[heaven05]

342. if you say so

and we are, as Democrats, supposed to be on the same side. Just GOTV. It will be a small step in reenergizing our democratic experiment.

[Doodley]

363. Yes, we are on the same side, so why are those who say they are offended by racial slang finding

they are being called a racist or a troll or white privileged or compared to the alt-right?

[tonedevil]

374. You have made it quite clear...

you are no where near my side.

[Doodley]

379. You aren't on the side of racial equality? I'm surprised.

[tonedevil]

381. I'm sure you think you are /nt

[bettyellen]

127. You should be aware that the nation's wealth was built on slavery and that also

that to this day, in most parts of our society huge advantages are bestowed on white folk above others solely because of their skin color. Awareness is not a punishment, it is merely understanding the truth. Working to make things better is still necessary and the right thing for all of us- again, not as punishment or a remedy for any guilt. You don’t have to be descended from a plantation owner to have been part of a society that mistreats POC on the regular.

[phylny]

140. Nothing makes people want to work with others like insulting terms.

Yeah, that'll work.

[heaven05]

189. what term or terms were insulting?

slave owner? Recipient of all entitlement and privilege due you solely because of you having white skin in this society? What????

[phylny]

225. The word that is the subject of the OP.

It's meant to be divisive and insulting. I don't play with people who use those kinds of names. There are other, better, words to use. Slave owner in this day and age is unlikely, although it did exist. Yes, privileged due to skin color is absolutely accurate. Racist is accurate and effective. We can describe the abhorrent behavior without name calling.

[heaven05]

246. okay

point well taken. It's way too late to stop it.

[phylny]

260. Could well be

I'll add it to other words I filter out

[bettyellen]

263. Many people find the word privileged insulting, tried to paint those convos as insulting. There you

go... these things being discussed at all seems to be an issue. The theme remains the same- why can’t POC be quiet about things that bother them? Even when discussions are tempered w humor - as they are w Wypipo tweets, they’re going to bother some people.

There’s literally no way to escape our judgement, is there?

[phylny]

279. That's so funny, because I never said that the "conversation" is insulting.

I said the term is. I fully believe it's used to BE insulting. It's certainly not a term of endearment, is it?

I would love to learn from others how I, an self-confessed, entitled white woman, born with enough genes to escape the "swarthy" complexion my ancestors had when they came from Italy and were labeled this as immigrants to this country on papers, I would love to learn how I can help bring racial justice to this country and world. I never, ever would ask you to be quiet. Not. Once.

Your judgment for things that are accurately portrayed is righteous. Your judgment for this experience is righteous and true. But just like I think the term "breeder" is a slur, despite people arguing up and down that it's not, just like I think the term "WOP" was a slur, just like I think the term "Redneck" is a slur, I think the term "Wypipo" is as well. If you want to use it, it if gives you power, if it makes your point, so be it.

I'll pay less attention to people who use it and more attention to people who want a frank, serious discussion.

[bettyellen]

286. Well that's a good start- there are frank serious discussions going on. Tweets about Wypipo are

generally not them- it’s a way of venting in a humorous way, and really just something you’ll come across on Twitter.
It’s not as if people are actually going around and slurring people and calling them Wypipo angrily- as so many imagine it is. They’re wrong, yet they blather on about it as if this effects their lives in an important ways I assure you, it does not.

[Doodley]

375. It seems some think that all whites are "privileged."

[bettyellen]

410. You seem to need reassurance racism is in the past... that's not true though. Why lie and say

That it’s about every single white person though? Or do you just have no idea?

[phylny]

277. I'll assume you are seriously asking.

The term in the OP.

[heaven05]

283. I am always serious

about a volatile american flash point. The one thing that stands out clearly to me is how we people deemed inferior have been reacting in a large way and for a damn long time to white hate. Wypipo doesn't come close to being as offensive sounding as the meanness I have always heard in the voice of a person calling a black person nigger. So yes I am serious in discussing that term of a description of white people.

I've noticed here there has been the diversion/distraction/whining to make sure all white people are not included in that description of white people made by Mr. Harriot.

When nigger is used by a white person it ALWAYS means a description of a whole race. Inescapable.

I really don't know what the deal with all this faux outrage and offence at the term wypipo. If it doesn't fit, keep walking.

[phylny]

285. I believe you don't know what the deal is, you've proven that. Consider me walking. n/t

[EffieBlack]

265. So you "won't work with others" because people online whom you don't know and will likely never meet

said “Wypipo?”

What work will that cause you not to do and with whom won’t you do it?

[heaven05]

278. +++

[Eliot Rosewater]

304. The degree of privilege exposed in this discussion is STAGGERING.

Makes me as a non POC want to VOMIT!
No wonder rump and others who downplay the importance of racism got so much support.

[EffieBlack]

322. Still waiting for an answer to my question

[heaven05]

179. No, take responsibility

for continuing to accept your privilege and entitlement bestowed upon you by your race to the detriment of POC. I blame the wypipo for continuing to be racist slime for perpetuating white racist ideology, privilege and entitlement culminating in the racist administration we have now and the police who are hanging and shooting unarmed AA indiscriminately.

You were born with privilege and entitlement that ameriKKKa offers to ALL white citizens, a given. All you had to do was embrace that privilege and entitlement. Blame? Never.

[Eko]

335. Why are you asking me that?

Was there anyplace I said that? I didn't blame you or anyone else for things they are not responsible for.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

431. Yes Doodley, but we are the beneficiaries of what our white ancestors did...

and, yes, there's plenty to be ashamed of, even if the primary offenders all long gone.

[Texasgal]

33. This has already been discussed to

death... UGH. Please, give it a rest.

[MrsMatt]

37. Sorry, but

am only on DU about once a week, so can't always keep up on the most current threads.

But the Wypipo threads were everywhere.

[NatBurner]

91. u clicked it tho

if u already on the 2&4 then don't worry abt it
it's not abt u personally
keep pushing forward with the rest of us tho

[vercetti2021]

34. It's just a term

Who cares?

[EffieBlack]

53. Wypipo, apparently ...

[Bok_Tukalo]

56. That's tautology

A flaccid argument

[vercetti2021]

59. I'm white as a vampire

Just a term to me

[Exotica]

164. not all vampires are white

[BumRushDaShow]

170. Looks like this guy is needed

to take care of that -

[Exotica]

183. LOLOLOLOLOL

[BumRushDaShow]

190. 😁

[vercetti2021]

268. Oh Blade!

I love that movie

[vercetti2021]

267. So true!

Maybe I'm more towards the Twilight vampires. Super pale.

[Exotica]

269. Do you sparkle?

[vercetti2021]

270. Only once a year

During Pride

[Exotica]

272. same here! (some years)

[vercetti2021]

273. You're awesome

[Exotica]

274. aaw, thankies, hugzz

[vercetti2021]

289. Welcome dear

[Eliot Rosewater]

305. perfect response

[Blue_true]

35. I think that it was stupidly appropriated from Gullah and Geechee people.

They call white people "wypipo" and it is not an insult, it is simply descriptive in their dialect - it has no divisive racial connotations.

Some person who wants to sound hip stole the word and have a lot of people using it improperly.

[7962]

44. That sounds very plausible. And a lot of people HERE are using it improperly.

I've seen it used insultingly on a few other threads recently. Seems to be the new "thing"

[George II]

42. "Wypipo" is a colloquialism used by blacks.

It is not intended to be insulting or offensive or hurtful or divisive. And I, as one of those "wypipo" don't find it offensive whatsoever.

On the other hand, you characterize it as "a lazy stereotype". You don't find that hurtful?

[EffieBlack]

60. Everyone uses such terms - the difference is that black folk are honest about what they mean

and use terms that clearly say what we mean and we stand by them.

This is very different than terms used by other folk that are clearly intended to identify and make value judgments about certain groups of people while sounding innocuous and colorblind.

Young people = people under a certain age. "Youth" = black young people

"Sketchy" = person who looks dangerous. "Thug" = black person who looks dangerous

"Urban"= black

"Suburban" = white

"Riot" vs. "Celebration that got out of hand"

"White people" = people of white. "Wypipo" = people of white who behave a certain way

and so on . . .

[meadowlander]

66. Speak for yourself please.

I actually don't use any of the terms in your examples and neither do most of the people I associate with.

And even if I did, "they do it too" stopped being an excuse for crappy behavior back in preschool. "At least I'm honest about my crappy behavior" doesn't really make it not crappy either.

[bettyellen]

114. You don't see the need for the terminology becasue you don't need the terminology, but....

It’s really truly not about your needs- and there is no reason to put your needs first. The discussion of problematic behavior is needed- and there’s no words to describe these people that’s doing to sound perfect to you. And that’s okay.

[meadowlander]

128. No, I don't use the terminology because I can see that it is harmful, inaccurate and prejudiced.

And I go out of my way to call people out on it when I hear them using it.

So no "everybody" does not need to use derogatory language or bigoted code to express their experience as the person I responded to claimed and the fact that "everybody" does it is still a really poor excuse to engage in it yourself.

With respect, I don't think you've really understood my post or the post I was responding to.

[bettyellen]

132. It's not something people are going around slurring people for- it's a descriptor or problematic and

thoughtless behavior. I’m sorry, but you’re assuming it’s something it is not. You literally do not understand how it works and on top of that, you don’t get how POC actually do need to discuss this (less than horribly racist, but clueless) behavior in an informal way. That you feel you need to control or denigrate the discussion is more problematic than the word ever was. I’m embarrassed for you.

[meadowlander]

135. Except that here on DU is not an informal discussion

between PoC describing this experience.

And if you want to have a genuine constructive discussion with white people in the room about race, starting out by slurring them isn't a helpful way to do it.

Put it this way... what's wrong with "clueless behavior" or "paranoid racial panic" or "racial profiling" any other way to describe the behavior that doesn't attribute it to members of a specific race?

My Korean aunt ran a convenience store and her hand used to creep to her panic button every time a black person walked in. It could easily have been her calling the cops on the men waiting in Starbucks. Does that make her "Wypipo"? It's the exact same behavior but it's not appropriate to use the term because, believe it or not, you don't actually have to be white to be racist dumbass. So why include the word white in your new term for racist dumbassery?

And if you want to use it as an informal joke among likeminded people suit yourself - I'm certainly not trying to stop anyone. But you're not in an informal group of likeminded people here so if you want to have an actual, constructive, useful discussion about a genuine problem like racial profiling why start it out with a broadbrush attack that sweeps in people who would otherwise be on your side.

Because, you may have noticed, we've now had 10 gazillion more threads about this ridiculous childish term than we have had about the actual racial profiling issue. And the only thing I have said on here is that starting out with slurs derails the conversation. You're welcome to consider that as "problematic" as you like but it doesn't change the fact that if you want your argument to be taken seriously you have to come from a place of respect.

You're not listening to people who are telling you that they find something offensive and why so why should they listen to anything that you have to say?

[bettyellen]

136. So POC are being disrespectful when they informally describe everyday mildly racist shit? and no

one has informal discussions here about cultural issues? Or you just never noticed because they didn’t make you uncomfortable?

Try learning to sit with your discomfort, it’s really nothing compared to other people’s experiences. If people- who aren’t actually familiar with its usage- weren’t starting a dozen threads here based on their misconceptions of the words usage, there wouldn’t be so many threads. Sorry, but if they can’t put shit in perspective and want to play the fool and be angry- that’s on them.

What’s on me Is to tell people who think they need to control discussions about things that don’t effect them to GTFO. It’s not their conversation, they have nothing to contribute. I see that’s hard for people to swallow, but some self control is in order. Learn that all spaces and conversations are subject you your stamp of approval. Even here.

[meadowlander]

138. Sorry but you can't have it both ways.

If you want to have an informal joking conversation with PoC about a shared experience and use slurs as part of it suit yourself. You will notice that I have never posted in any of those threads because, thanks, I already know perfectly well that not all spaces and conversations need my stamp of approval.

But if you want to come onto a shared discussion board full of strangers with a mix of backgrounds and have an actual serious, constructive discussion about a quite significant issue, maybe don't start it by insulting people. And "wypipo" doesn't have a place in *that* discussion because it is attributing a common, non-racially determined problematic behavior to one specific race.

That's all I'm saying. Can we at least agree on that?

[EffieBlack]

205. If we're setting groundrules ...

Speaking of "both ways" - white folk can’t say whatever they want to us, tell us we’re being divisive because we don’t like the language they use when discussing race (for example, “race-baiting”) or the way they're engaging with us (for example, telling us that our assessment that an encounter involved racism is wrong and that we’re overreacting or insist that calling racist behavior racist is racist) but then throw a fit over a term like “wypipo” and tell us it “doesn’t have a place” in the discussion.

There are many things said in these discussions that I don’t like, that I even find insulting and offensive. But even mentioning that I don’t like it is considered “divisive.”

If you think these discussions can only be had in safe places completely sanitized of any word or comment that might make someone else uncomfortable, you’re not looking for an honest discussion at all. But if you insist that this be the playing field, let’s focus at least as much attention on eliminating everything that white people say that make people of color uncomfortable as you do on making sure nobody offends some white folk by using the word “Wypipo.”

[Empowerer]

216. +1000

[kwassa]

215. "Wypipo" is describing a subset of white people.

A subset defined by their behaviors.

And "wypipo" doesn't have a place in *that* discussion because it is attributing a common, non-racially determined problematic behavior to one specific race.

The difference is this: this problematic behavior is derived from racism and white privilege. You don't see that. Your Korean aunt can also be racist, of course, but Koreans don't hold all the power in the US.

If the wypipo shoes doesn't fit, don't wear it.

[heaven05]

200. wypipo

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racially profile AA to the point where DWB, WWB, SWB, AWB are common terms pointing out danger from wypipo.

Any conversation around race where white people go off the rails because an AA is not smiling while talking about white hate and ignorance, that has driven racial prejudice and racial hate for generations is usually suspended because of white entitlement and privilege in setting the parameters by saying something like "if you(black people)want to have a genuine discussion with white people in the room about race, starting out by slurring them isn't a helpful way to do it".

Wypipo is a very descriptive term for racists and their behavior and as a general colloquialism describing a race of people. I had to understand what the term meant in relation to the white race. It's apt. Mr. Harriot was/is right on.

[Eliot Rosewater]

306. So let me get this straight:

shooting someone six times for jaywalking might be OK depending on how big the victim was

but using that term people mentioned here not OK...got it

[heaven05]

346. yep, bam!!!

you get it, BWTH, it seems you have always gotten it. History and experience gained from them is the great teacher.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

364. Perfectly said.

[BumRushDaShow]

174. "I actually don't use any of the terms in your examples and neither do most of the people..."

The MEDIA uses those terms. Day after day after day. And many people who consume media get marinated in those terms.

One of the terms - "youth" - has probably been the biggest one that has burned me up for years and years. When a columnist or reporter writes about young white children or teens, they are called "children" or "teens" or "youngsters". When they are talking about young black children or teens, they are labeled "youth". It may not happen 100% of the time but it is upwards of 80 - 90% of the time, the term will lead to these descriptors. And the irony here is that it seems the police don't consider young blacks as "young" at all. They are seen as and treated like adults, and hunted down like animals.

"Inner city" has replaced the terms "ghetto" or "slum" and along with the distortion of "urban" that now references "black". And as an example, the single black talk station on SiriusXM was originally called "The Power". They were recently (a few years ago) forced to change the name to "Urban View". Just like certain R&B music was dubbed "Urban contemporary" as if no blacks lived in the suburbs or rural areas. It's code.

Far too many times we saw whites described as "celebrating" after overturning cars and breaking store windows where blacks were described as "looting and rioting".

There is a reason why the idiom - "The pen is mightier than the sword" is a truism.

[heaven05]

197. the MSM

feeding millions of ignorant minds use the terms. So bravo for you.

[heaven05]

195. BAM!!!!!!!!!!!!

[True Dough]

203. I must say, Effie

I have seen a lot of great posts from you, but this is not one of them. Read your first couple of lines again. You speak of "black folk" like they're a monolith. "We say what we mean and we stand by them."

That's a generalization.

For the record, once again, Wypipo doesn't bother me in the least. Generalizations, on the other hand...

[heaven05]

194. didn't you know

the stereotype that black people are lazy has always been used? I know you do Sometimes in my experiences, I have found those who whine about divisions the most are the ones creating a lot of it to maintain a certain sense of self-importance, superiority, entitlement and privilege.

[Bok_Tukalo]

45. It is a racial pejorative

It should not be allowed.

[Trust Buster]

48. I agree. DU would not allow such attacks on any other race of people.

You don’t fight racism with racism. You just end up with losers on both sides.

[TCJ70]

55. Oh no...haven't you heard? Only white people can be racist in America. n/t

[Trust Buster]

57. Yes, hypocrisy is ugly where ever it exists.

[procon]

67. Two wrongs don't make a right.

If its bad when whites use racist words to demean blacks, it no less wrong when backs use racist words to demean whites.

[Doodley]

89. Quite right. We all need to maintain our own standards if we are to condemn the standards of others.

[procon]

94. First, you'd need to have one before anyone even wasted their fonts on it, yeah? nt

[heaven05]

204. true

others may be prejudiced, bigoted, hateful but POC DO NOT have their prejudice(rightfully felt)backed up by justice systems, policing systems, educational systems like white people have. AA cannot be racist.

[TCJ70]

290. Yeah I was being sarcastic. Forgot the smiley.

Anyone can be just as racist as anyone else, no matter what your skin looks like. If you harbor negative feelings about someone based on their race, you’re racist.

The whole power element argument is bullshit. There are a ton of white people that don’t have power over anyone hut are clearly racist. Are you suggesting we should just call them prejudiced, bigoted or hateful?

[Eliot Rosewater]

307. That is factually correct.

[TCJ70]

311. No. It's bullshit. N/t

[ChubbyStar]

64. You should take that up with Admin

They are very fair and helpful.

[brush]

82. Get a grip, people. Don't be so effin sensitive. Wypipo is not the same as white people.

Just as blah people is not the same as black people.

Wypipo know who they are. They are the ones Santorum was dog whistling to, and who trump and repugs dog whistle to.

Not rocket science, it's just the tables are turned and the ones who are used to creating derogatory terms for POCs suddenly are confronted with on created by POCs about them.

Our allies know it is not directed towards them, it's towards those committing offensive, racist behavior.

[Doodley]

110. You say it is a derogatory term and you agree it is the phonetic spelling for "white people."

Why, therefore, would you possibly think that it is not racist or offensive?

[heaven05]

206. AA cannot be racist

prejudiced, bigoted and hateful, but not racist. That's impossible. So quit trying to sneak that specious argument into this thread. Proven to be real stinky bullshit.

[Eliot Rosewater]

309. True. And I am starting to wonder if the party that is supposed to be friendly to POC

has this much trouble over a term meant as it is, I dont see how this country makes it in the face of an actual nazi fascist.

[heaven05]

347. I feel deep down

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we as a people and nation WON'T survive this fascist, racist administration in any recognizable form called democracy IF the arch-racists governing now gets their way. He wants to be president for life. I also think the GOP, as it is today, would have no problem with that.

I was talking to a 'Goldwater' republican yesterday and she admits things are a lot crazier than she voted for. Her sadness was apparent. I know she knows, just by body language, she fucked up. And oh, because I am still not 100% after my battle with cancer, she has brought me cases of Ensure and her sigother cuts my grass. Not all republicans are crazies or racist.

[MichMan]

390. OK then, the term is prejudiced, bigoted and hateful

Now explain why you think it's usage is acceptable

[heaven05]

407. How is wypipo

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so offensive when it accurately describes a rather LARGE subset of white people who are trump lovers precisely because he is among other things, one of the first openly racist people leading this country as a potus. They love this fact. That goes for everyone, whether openly or surreptitiously, who loves AG session and most of the people in his racist administration. They are wypipo.

Wypipo think they are vicariously sticking it to the POC through their racist leader, African-americans especially. They think we have gotten too much of what they take for granted every day. Privilege and entitlement. And that goes to the core of the freedom, they enjoy precisely because they have white skin. AA DO NOT have the freedom at not being picked out in this society while DWB, WWB, HFWB(having too much fun while black), BWB(barbequing while black) and shot and killed as an unarmed person because that human being has brown skin, a person that is AA. When police are called on an AA for specious reasons, I believe wypipo are extremely satisfied if their call results in the death of an unarmed AA. Look I really don't give a damn about all the butthurt whining about the word WYPIPO.

It is a word created precisely because it describes, in the creator's mind, racist white people. And it's about time they are called out. Now when I see the hate stares at me or a muslim woman or man in a store or other setting, I can ask whypipo? That's the first thing that came into my mind when I first saw the word wypipo. Why are SO many white people so goddamn hateful and racist.

To me, that's why wypipo is acceptable as a descriptive term of white people who are NOT willing to see equality shared. And that sharing means among other freedoms granted to white people based on their skin color, the freedom from being killed because of skin colour or jailed and hung because maybe a person spoke too loudly to one of the brownshirts posing as police. A person of the Wypipo race doesn't want to see their privilege and entitlement, based strictly on their skin colour, shared among all Americans of every race, religion, culture, gender or otherwise. That's the elephant in the room. I shall continue to use that term when appropriate and yes, I have the freedom to decide. So there you are. And keep it straight in your mind I explained because I wanted to, not because of your demand...that was hard to take. But well.....

[heaven05]

202. no it isn't

and it should be allowed. Hope it ends up in common usage. Like many other words describing peoples and behaviours. And sometimes the race of a person like wypipo use.

[Bok_Tukalo]

221. I understand that bigots are going to be bigots and I can do nothing about that

... other than show I oppose bigotry.

There is no justification for racial pejoratives.

[MountCleaners]

61. For the last time...

"Wypipo" refers to people who are white who do discriminatory things.

That's not a stereotype, that's a reality.

[tonedevil]

70. That should be...

aren't clever.

[hunter]

74. It makes me laugh.

Say it fast three times and I'm

[EffieBlack]

77. It is pretty funny, isn't it?

But I think you actually have to know some black people in order to get why it's so funny when you say it out loud. Which explains a lot of the butthurt.

[Eliot Rosewater]

310. The butthurt is a direct result of the massive privilege non POC have, i cant use the W word

as I have said as it draw WAY too much attention.

[Doodley]

86. I agree, but unfortunately some people are enjoying the use of that word to get a reaction.

[MaryMagdaline]

87. I am happy that black people open up about their experiences

Here and elsewhere on Twitter, Facebook, etc. Even if you feel whypipo is lame (I find it to be funny ... a complaint in a serious- funny way about white people or just the powers that be) I find myself thinking wypipo about stupid things we do, usually collectively. A conservative writer said "Candor shows respect to your reader/listener" or is flattering to the listener. I appreciate AA sharing their frustrations with life and with us. I think it brings us closer, not further apart.

I feel comfortable on this board to complain of the patriarchy. I hope that the men here are not insulted. I usually feel support rather than affontry.

[NatBurner]

93. pretty much

thank u

[MaryMagdaline]

99. You as well

Thank you

[wonkwest]

92. Wypipo wants it two ways

"You have to understand me! But I get to make fun of you."

Human nature doesn't work that way. You cannot make fun of or denigrate people and then demand their allegiance.

I hate this term. It's divisive, unnecessary, alienates potential allies, and makes sure we know our divisions.

Cute and funny on the Internet? May be.

Draw anyone to your side? Newp. Quite the opposite.

But it's cute and funny on the internet withing echo communities, so . . .

Dumb. Dumb Dumb Dumb Dumb Dumb.

I don't think that term has any place whatsoever on this board.

But some people feel they need to "stuff it" to white folks.

Does it feel good? You're contributing to the division. You know where those divisions lead us? To more PoC deaths. But, at least you get your internet heeeee, right?

I hope your cyber thumbs up are worth lives.

[Doodley]

98. I could not agree more or say it better. They use a phonetic spelling of "white people" and

think they can hide behind that and claim it isn't racist. They get off on it.

[herding cats]

100. Black people can't joke on the internet and not die for it?

Really? You stand by that?

Just picture me here shaking my head at what I just read here.

People have fucking lost their shit, bad.

[Doodley]

101. Sorry to sound dumb, but I am not clear what you are saying. Please clarify.

[herding cats]

102. Read the post I replied to. NT

[wonkwest]

105. Is that what I said? Categorize what I said and be honest.

Joke? No. People of color have had powerful vehicles of late to subvert the structure of our society. Look at Key and Peele. I've always adored them. They have always stuck it to white people where they could. But they also acknowledged their own ignorance. One skit I adored is where a character thought he was being homophobicly harassed, and it turned out the guy just had a boyfriend. The black character had to second guess his own homophobia.

Smart. Relevant. Cleverly written. Amazing reflection on society. And two black comics managed it, when their own community hadn't had so great a history of homophobia. (There is also the vampire sketch that floors me).

We have to acknowledge what we're dealing with. There's a portion of social justice that thinks only white people need atone, and then everything will be magically be ok! Er, no. It's all a clusterfuck. We have to see each other as humans. And be able to make fun of it, and be able to just lean back and see how ridiculous our differences are. This is a powerful weapon.

We need to go with that.

[herding cats]

108. Your words

"Does it feel good? You're contributing to the division. You know where those divisions lead us? To more PoC deaths. But, at least you get your internet heeeee, right?"

Really? Dialogue that isn't comfortable is an excuse for racist murder? I didn't say it, you did. There's zero excuse for uncomfortable words being a reason for racist crimes.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

366. SO right you are... the white hypocrisy here is un-fuckin-believable and, frankly, embarrassing.

[EffieBlack]

113. I might agree with your concern about "contributing to division" if the division were along racial

lines.

But it's not.

On one "side," we have people who use, are amused by and/or have no problem with the use of the term "Wypipo." On the other, we have people who are offended by it.

The people on the first side are a diverse group. Many people of color along with a whole lot of white people. On the other side, we have mostly, although not exclusively, white people.

So where's the divide? It's surely not along racial lines since we have white people on both sides of the issue and, to a lesser degree, black people on both sides of the issue. And the concern about "alienating allies" is also misplaced since I and many others have lots of opinions that our "allies" may not agree with. Am I under some kind of obligation to not disagree with or even offend any white person who considers themselves an ally to black people? Even if a significant number of white allies agree with me?

It seems to me that the divide is simply between non-racially defined groups who have a different opinion about the word. Are we now at a point where ANYTHING that doesn't have unanimous agreement is not appropriate for discussion on DU and must be deemed divisive and wrong? Or does it only apply to topics related to race?

Frankly, I have little use for the "divisive" accusation since it only seems to be of concern to people when we talk about race and only is ever applied to views and discussions in which some white people - usually a minority of them, at that - don't like something that people of color and the white people who agree with them have to say. Otherwise, DU is all about - and even encourages - debate, disagreement, differing views and never tries to shut it down because of some misplaced concerns about being "divisive."

[meadowlander]

130. And you can find women who aren't offended by sexist language,

but that doesn't make it not, empirically, sexist language.

You are not under an obligation not to offend. But I would think, having signed up to be part of a community which has a shared purpose to advance progressive values, that you would understand the need to focus on constructive dialogue about issues as opposed to using childish namecalling memes from the interwebs to ridicule people, particularly where broadbrush poorly considered statements may capture people who would otherwise be on your side.

[Empowerer]

133. Apples and oranges

You missed my point completely.

There is a constant suggestion that discussions about race are racially divisive, even when the lines aren’t drawn by race. And this is the only area where discussions are consistently attached and targeted for shutting down because they’re divisive. On just about any other topic on DU we don’t have unanimity. People fall on different sides and they argue and fuss and fight and no one seems to care if anyone is uncomfortable. But when it comes to race, anything that makes a small group of white people uneasy is attacked and targeted for shut down because it’s divisive.

It’s clear to anyone paying attention that, on DU, “divisive” means a topic related to race or racism that some white people don’t think is important or relevant to them, rubs them the wrong way, and they not only don’t want to discuss it, they don’t want anyone else to discuss it, either.

[meadowlander]

137. I disagree.

I think there are a number of examples of constructive discussions about racial politics on DU which have not been shut down. And I think most people on DU agree that racism is a cancer on our society, racial profiling is bad, casual racism is still really common and that people should be treated equally and with respect. Many people on DU probably still hold subconscious racist beliefs and behave in less than optimal ways through lack of understanding or bad habit but I have never seen anyone on DU who was deliberately, maliciously racist who wasn't almost immediately banned.

I also think you'll find that those constructive discussions about race don't generally don't start with "Wypipo" or "Listen up white people".

It's not the topic that's inevitably divisive, it's the way that it is discussed. And I would argue that the old saying applies "All your failed relationships have one thing in common" and "It takes two to tango".

If you find that you're not able to have a constructive discussion about race on DU you might spend some time examining whether or not there is anything about the way you are approaching those discussions which is contributing to them derailing. For example, by asserting as you did above that all white people use racist codewords or by addressing all white people as if they are a homogenous group. My ancestors were primarily Irish. They were starved out of their homeland, their native language and religion were beaten out of them, they were denied jobs and safe housing, considered animals, caricatured in newspapers, frozen out of "good" society. So my view of the world actually has very little in common with many of the billion or so other people who have approximately the same skin tone as me.

I'm sure you don't appreciate people making assumptions about your ideas based on your skin color. Is it so difficult to avoid doing the same thing when you choose to address "white" DUers?

[kwassa]

404. and I disagree with you.

I also think you'll find that those constructive discussions about race don't generally don't start with "Wypipo" or "Listen up white people".

I think some white people are overly sensitive about being lumped in with all other white people, speaking as a white person.

If you find that you're not able to have a constructive discussion about race on DU you might spend some time examining whether or not there is anything about the way you are approaching those discussions which is contributing to them derailing. For example, by asserting as you did above that all white people use racist codewords or by addressing all white people as if they are a homogenous group. My ancestors were primarily Irish. They were starved out of their homeland, their native language and religion were beaten out of them, they were denied jobs and safe housing, considered animals, caricatured in newspapers, frozen out of "good" society. So my view of the world actually has very little in common with many of the billion or so other people who have approximately the same skin tone as me.

False analogy. You are white, the Irish became white in America, and enjoy every aspect of white privilege that any other white American does, by the virtue of your skin tone. What happened to the Irish was terrible, but it ended, and you were absorbed into the rest of the white American population. Black people will never have that privilege.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

367. Excellent observation Effie.

[Trust Buster]

158. Thank you. The hypocrisy is thick.

[Afromania]

177. So, the hate originates with "White People" we were enslaved, set free as an aside, treated like

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shit for a 100 years after that, semi garbage for 50 more years past that. We try to tell "white people" what the hell is going on but they refuse to appropriately listen. We have been marginalized by "white people" in every aspect of American life.

We keep moving forward despite alienation, degradation and soft patch subjugation from those that don't mean us well. From those that aren't in that category we've gotten indifference, disbelief and outright idiocy like what you posted "Does it feel good? You're contributing to the division. You know where those divisions lead us? To more PoC deaths. But, at least you get your internet heeeee, right? ".

Should you be surprised verbiage has cropped up to describe the particular type of white person that is willing to think that the death of a human is comparable to words that describe the particular people that harbor and express their overt hate for us? Please, if that's what you want to stand on then white people created the diversion from the get go with the word nigger.

That shit isn't used to describe some group of black people that are doing anything worth describing other than existing. We have a negative label pinned on us for simply fucking existing. Not because we were demeaning you, taking from your pockets, beating your bodies, assaulting your sense of well being on a daily basis or otherwise making your life a never-ending consideration of do's and donts that you need to consider before being offended.

There is no division that can come from a damn thing any black person says in this country because "wypipo" have already decided what fucking side of this they come down on. They are the economic subjugator and wish to remain the economic subjugator of not just me but any brown and black body in this country. Our existence is an affront to them and they act in according ways to let it be known that our subjugation is what they want.

Additionally there is nothing, NOTHING, that black people in this country can do to make "wypipo" happy other than to prostrate ourselves and submit to all of the indignation that prostration involves. We should be red lined, manhandled, labeled and killed and we should do it with a smile on our face because failing to do just that is now a real and justifiable cause for the exercise of white privilege against us; and you come out with some shit about continuing divisions and how it will lead to more PoC deaths????



For you lurkers, trolls, whatthefuckevers......What the fuck is wrong with you people??? Why are you so god damn afraid of us? What about our existence is so troubling that you go through the shit you do to bother us???

[Iggo]

248. Oh my god I love you.

[heaven05]

339. I agree

what the hell do wypipo gain other than an inflated sense of superiority over another human being? That means they gain nothing and are just hateful persons on a mission to kill, intimidate, humiliate and hurt another human being. Anger provoking sadness here, every day. Not the stress-filled kind, I won't give a racist that satisfaction, no, just the sad kind when watching people do stupid things that in the will hurt them.

Quite succinctly put+++ to you

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

369. +1,000,000!!!

[heaven05]

210. I am sooo glad

wypipo has hurt to the point where white people, if they stop whining about their hurt or being offended, can feel an inkling of what hurt, shame and humiliation AA have felt, for generations, in ameriKKKa. And this hurt being felt as we are shot while being called hurtful names, hung in their jail cells while being called hurtful names, being dragged to pieces while being called hurtful names.

I am glad wypipo has stirred white people out of their privileged and entitled lethargy.

[wonkwest]

226. Let me posit a hypothetical reply

“That’s your opinion, breeder, but this faggot doesn’t care what you think.”

According to your rules, I as a gay man can talk that way. To you. Who are you to say any different?Check your heterosexual self. Do you know what gay people have been through?!

Or, we can talk to each other like people and figure out how to best move forward from here.

I at least admire your honesty. You know it is a shitty slur, and you revel in how it makes people feel. Kudos to you. You didn’t try to talk around that.

[phylny]

228. You win every one of my prizes for clarity and truth today.

Granted, you can't REDEEM the prizes for anything of value, but I applaud nonetheless!

[hunter]

235. Gay people can be wypipo too..

[wonkwest]

297. Stop

Just stop.

If you want a go, you'd be surprised. Sit your ass down, child.

[hunter]

308. Please proceed.

My white ass has seen some pretty bad shit.

+100 if you can find the naked pics.

There's one of me wearing a hat that I bought in Mexico and nothing else.

I was hot.

[heaven05]

341. I have experienced

the racism of gay people. Just as hurtful and twice the hypocrisy in their hate, "child". I wish you would "just stop".

[heaven05]

240. and I won't, ever

All racial, religious, gender, cultural groups have felt prejudice, at one time or another, in this country.

Yet racism with extreme hate and fear, as applied to the AA-POC, in ameriKKKa outside the hate and fear that american white people have toward First-americans, is the factor to be commented on just by its longevity back to the goddamn Alamo as an historical reference point... the perseverance of hate and fear toward a color is not being discussed and it should be. Wypipo is partial recompense for services rendered No slur seen against you as a person or against the entire white race, wypipo is just a colliqual way to describe/observe white people. What's the problem here?

[wonkwest]

300. So you admit it

All racial, religious, gender, cultural groups have felt prejudice, at one time or another, in this country.

Agreed.

Yet racism with extreme hate and fear, as applied to the AA-POC, in ameriKKKa outside the hate and fear that american white people have toward First-americans,

You're inserting a lot of jargon. No one actually cares.

ypipo is partial recompense for services rendered

And there you told the truth. It's a slur. Yay. Why do we need surgical paragraphs to admit the obvious.

[heaven05]

345. you just don't get it

I don't care, anymore. I'm done, have a good one

[Empowerer]

251. "Wypipo" is not the equivalent of "faggot" - not even close

[wonkwest]

301. You don't get to speak for me

You only get to speak for you.

How I feel as a white person is not up for your judgement. Just as I don't judge how you feel.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

371. Right there with you heaven... long overdue too!

[heaven05]

340. wtf

are you saying?

[TDale313]

107. Oh, please.

I cannot believe people are getting so bent out of shape over this. (Ok, I can, but seriously- to my fellow white people- let it go.)

[Doodley]

112. You don't find: "Wypipo are (insert negative stereotype)" offensive?

[herding cats]

116. Note: you agreed with the poster above who implied it was an excuse for more racial murders.

I'm not feeling your argument here as being persuasive.

[RhodeIslandOne]

111. Aw geez not this shit again

Let’s beat this dead horse some more

[NCTraveler]

120. Today is the day I take up arms...

To protect the wypipo under attack from the racists.

Something there doesn’t sound right.....

Hold on....

Give me a couple of minutes to find a fuck to give.

[sunRISEnow]

121. Hurtful? Walking into Starbucks, walking baby at a park, BBQ'in and blacks gets cops called on them.

Wypipo is hurtful to whites? Really?

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

398. Exactly! And the irony is that the term wypipo is, by definition, intended to call out those

white people who are callin the cops on those innocent black folks you mention!! Now, even SWB (sleeping while black) has become a dangerous undertaking. How do intelligent people not see this?!?!

[sunRISEnow]

400. One chooses to be blind especially when so many supply facts.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

406. Yup yup... sad to see in this day and age when so many claim to be enlightened...

not sure what it's gonna take to bring the races together. Why does the burden always seem to fall on PoC to be the ones who must "turn the other cheek" and let shit hurled at them simply roll of their back for the sake of unity?!?! Frankly, as a white person, I find that attitude embarrassing.

[jberryhill]

126. Not "is" - Wypipo ARE not clever. It's plural

I’m surprised no one picked up on the OP pointing out that even African Americans’ pejoratives are lazy!

Enough with the lazy stereotypes. Put some work into one for a change.

[MrScorpio]

143. White fragility is the knee jerk defense of white supremacy...

And is usually usually replete with stereotypes.

When the OP was written out, I don't think that there was a lot of deep thought involved.

[Eliot Rosewater]

312. Yes. My worry is if the side of the fence that is supposed to support AA acts like this

i see nothing but trouble in the future.

Big trouble.

[leftofcool]

131. white fragility case #1,247

[MrScorpio]

142. I just posted a Robin DiAngelo article below.

She's coming out with a book soon that's entitled "White Fragility."

As soon as I get my own copy, it's gonna be ON!

[Alea]

134. IMO the meaning is rapidly morphing

Two weeks ago I don't remember hearing anything about it. Last week it swept through DU like wildfire, I've heard it a few times locally, and I bet it's going to be in the news within a week or two. Probably on f##ker carlson.

[MrScorpio]

141. I think that you should find this instructive:

White America’s racial illiteracy: Why our national conversation is poisoned from the start

The author of “What Does It Mean to Be White?” examines the ways white people implode when they talk about race

DR. ROBIN DIANGELO

I am white. I have spent years studying what it means to be white in a society that proclaims race meaningless, yet is deeply divided by race. This is what I have learned: Any white person living in the United States will develop opinions about race simply by swimming in the water of our culture. But mainstream sources—schools, textbooks, media—don’t provide us with the multiple perspectives we need.

Yes, we will develop strong emotionally laden opinions, but they will not be informed opinions. Our socialization renders us racially illiterate. When you add a lack of humility to that illiteracy (because we don’t know what we don’t know), you get the break-down we so often see when trying to engage white people in meaningful conversations about race.

Mainstream dictionary definitions reduce racism to individual racial prejudice and the intentional actions that result. The people that commit these intentional acts are deemed bad, and those that don’t are good. If we are against racism and unaware of committing racist acts, we can’t be racist; racism and being a good person have become mutually exclusive. But this definition does little to explain how racial hierarchies are consistently reproduced.

Social scientists understand racism as a multidimensional and highly adaptive system—a system that ensures an unequal distribution of resources between racial groups. Because whites built and dominate all significant institutions, (often at the expense of and on the uncompensated labor of other groups), their interests are embedded in the foundation of U.S. society.

While individual whites may be against racism, they still benefit from the distribution of resources controlled by their group. Yes, an individual person of color can sit at the tables of power, but the overwhelming majority of decision-makers will be white. Yes, white people can have problems and face barriers, but systematic racism won’t be one of them. This distinction—between individual prejudice and a system of unequal institutionalized racial power—is fundamental. One cannot understand how racism functions in the U.S. today if one ignores group power relations.

https://www.salon.com/2015/04/10/white_americas_racial_illiteracy_why_our_national_conversation_is_poisoned_from_the_start_partner/

[phylny]

144. What if white people don't implode? What if they understand that they are privileged

and that people of color have disadvantages due to race that we'll never understand? What if white people want to help others, want to help rid our society of the racism that is so pervasive? What if we already see all of these things already, even though we are white?

None of this information, as instructive as it may be, explains why a term meant to single out even PART of a race of people should be accepted or used - see "rednecks" and "hillbillies". Especially here on DU.

Brought to you by a white woman of Italian ancestry whose family didn't arrive here in the U.S. until the later 1800s, a family of immigrants described as "swarthy" on immigration documents, who were called "Wops," "Dagos," and "Guineas," whose parents were called "dirty Italians" by a neighbor when they moved into their neighborhood, and who still understands she doesn't live the life of a person of color. I get that I have privilege that even my immigrant family did, swarthy as they were, but honestly, I'm not imploding.

[MrScorpio]

145. Not imploding is helping.

Removing white supremacy from our society will always be an ongoing process.

[phylny]

148. I hope we come to the point where white supremacy is eradicated.

I hope it's in my lifetime, so we'd better hurry up.

[Maeve]

187. I think the key here is "illiteracy" in word definitions

Or, at least, a failure to hold the same meanings for the word we are using. The quote above speaks to this, but I'd like to expand to clarify my own understanding.

Racism is sometimes defined as "prejudice based on race"--of course we're against that! And by that definition, all people can and often are "racist", black, white, brown, orange...And that is the place many are coming from when they decry any term that uses a skin color in any negative way--it isn't right to judge the outside, and insults of a behavior that seem race-specific are just wrong.

But that isn't what the current discussions of racism are about. When most modern writers are using the term "racism" they are referring to a system that keeps one group in power at the expense of others. Therefore, only the power class can actually be said to be "racist" in tht they are the only ones who are in charge of the rules.

When the Irish first came to America, they were not considered "white" by the power class. When they were finally accepted, another, newer, group of immigrants (also Europeans) was deemed "not white" and kept out of the power circle. The definitions changed, but the system remained the same. Newcomers were told to "fit in" to be accepted, but it took generations for the system to accept them. However, some people would NEVER be accepted, no matter what they did; they were simply and forever "other."

There have been many attempts to change this is America; we ended slavery and some thought that was enough. We stopped "sun-down towns", legalized segregation (well, some of it) and un-equal education systems (well, some of them). And we thought that tearing down the more obvious barriers meant that we were all done with racism. But it's not that easy because many of us don't see the less obvious barriers and therefore don't realize they exist. And so when we hear the term "racism" we think it only applies to the ones who want those obvious barriers put back up. And we don't hear that our own admonitions to "fit in" or "don't talk like that" are really the same lines that were used years ago.

Part of the reason the Irish became "white" in America is that we grew so large and powerful that we could no longer be shunted aside. Same with the Italians and Eastern Europeans. So the system adjusted, accomodated the newcomers, but taught them that the way to power was to maintain the basic "us vs them" status quo. Now the whole system is being challenged from below, on a massive scale and the old powers are threatened. As an aside, the ones who are newest to the power class or on the lowest rungs of it are the ones most likely to fight back--we just got the privileges and now you want to take them away???

If we want to be true to the expansive claims of human equality put forth in the founding documents of the United States, we have to look and see, listen and hear, what is coming from the ones who have been deprived by the power system in place. We also have to realize that freedom isn't a zero-sum game. We can all benefit, if we can find a way to break the ingrained patterns of the past. But to do that, we have to see them for what they were...and what they are.

[Empowerer]

337. This

Mainstream dictionary definitions reduce racism to individual racial prejudice and the intentional actions that result. The people that commit these intentional acts are deemed bad, and those that don’t are good. If we are against racism and unaware of committing racist acts, we can’t be racist; racism and being a good person have become mutually exclusive. But this definition does little to explain how racial hierarchies are consistently reproduced.
...
While individual whites may be against racism, they still benefit from the distribution of resources controlled by their group. Yes, an individual person of color can sit at the tables of power, but the overwhelming majority of decision-makers will be white. Yes, white people can have problems and face barriers, but systematic racism won’t be one of them. This distinction—between individual prejudice and a system of unequal institutionalized racial power—is fundamental. One cannot understand how racism functions in the U.S. today if one ignores group power relations. [/div]

[Sunsky]

147. Who the cap fit let them wear it...

As the late great Bob Marley said.
The term is describing the behavior of a certain set of oppressive white people. So, yes race matters. If you are not one of those people, well this one is not for you. Next... Who the heck cares what anyone feels is lazy, clever or not? It's your opinion and everyone has one. You won't whine the term away.
Wypipo- is the racist white cop who shoots an unarmed black man.
Wypipo- are the white people who move out of their "nice" neighborhood when "the blacks" are moving in.
Wypipo- are the white people who won't allow their angel to date a black guy (thug).
Wypipo- is a white lawyer, who screams at and threatens to call ICE on Latinos for not speaking English.
Wypipo- is a white professor who calls the cop on "the blacks" for barbecuing in a designated area.
Wypipo- are the white people who think their "majority" status gives them the privilege to dictate to us "minority" how we are supposed to: speak, act, dress and live.
Those are some of the behavior of Wypipo.
Again. Wypipo does NOT describe all white people. All white people are NOT Wypipo.

[WhiteTara]

149. I think that only wypipo are offended

because it names them. It isn't divisive in my mind. I'm glad that black people have named them. Hillary called them deplorables, but wypipo is kind of musical and to me, is funny.

[NurseJackie]

261. Not "only" -- but I think it's fair to characterize it as being "predominantly". And ...

149. I think that only wypipo are offended

Not "only" -- but I think it's fair to characterize it as being "predominantly". And if someone takes the time to sit quietly and listen carefully, those who complain the loudest are the ones who reveal the most about themselves (most of the time, they don't even realize it.)

[heaven05]

157. pretty damn clever

actually. Certain behaviours are race specific. Can't be anything else.

[Oneironaut]

191. Actually, race in itself has no impact on human behavior. It's the cultural environment instead.

Sorry if that sounds pedantic. I do think the distinction is important, however.

If you grabbed a white baby and moved them to the Middle East, they would act like everybody else there. It’s the way you’re raised, your external environment, etc. Human babies are a blank slate. Race in itself is an artificial construct when thinking in terms of human physiology. It’s like comparing someone with blue eyes vs. someone with green eyes.

[heaven05]

217. BLACK AND BROWN

skin offends and causes fear in white people along with the perception, right and wrong, about the cultural environment of POC. And that environment is the creation of the racist state(country) in which the POC might live.

The interracial couple with children will affect their child bi-culturally. That's a given. In my experience, racism is the artificial construct built upon fear, lies, generations of racist hate, when dealing with race, not the person's race itself.

[kentuck]

161. If it's so important...

Why not have a Group specifically for "Wypipo"? Is it important enough to have its own Group?

[left-of-center2012]

172. I agree, but ...

Apparently, for some reason, it's OK here to attack "Wypipo".
And you'll be given a zillion reasons why it's OK.

Yet, attacking any other race, color, ethnicity, minority would immediately be 'alerted' on and deleted.



It's very hurtful and harmful,
especially when we should be uniting against the GOP in the 2018, 2020 elections.

(And now I expect to be attacked for voicing this opinion)

[Afromania]

186. This is the way black people always feel. When we are told that our reality isn't real because

"white people" have not experienced it. For years we told you guys about the police brutalizing us and it was shrugged off because officer billy bob didn't beat "your" head in.

For some reason it has been OK to attack "insert your favorite black folk slur here" forever in the streets of this country and you''ll be given a zillion reasons why. Now when we are openly expressing our frustration with the continued desire to brutalize us you guys wnat to take offense.

We don't need to unite against the GOP because we are inherently against those that want to brutalize us. The problem is that "wypipo" want to brutalize us and other brown people so badly that they need to convincing not to fuck themselves by catering to their fetish for brutalized black and brown existences.

[left-of-center2012]

208. Thank you for sharing ...

... a reason using "Wypipo" was OK.

[Afromania]

214. and as soon as we trade places and "white people" are the minority and it's used as a way to

demean your "ENTIRE" ethinic group I'll be the first person to say its racist.

[Eliot Rosewater]

314. If we reversed everything as you suggest, the non POC under the thumb of POC would

have burned down the entire country long ago.

The first lynching and everything standing is burnt to the ground, wouldnt have lasted long enough to get to this point where a group is butthurt over a word that shouldnt even apply to them, unless it does.

[phylny]

218. No attack from me.

It's a "nickname" about a group of people and it's not okay.

[Oneironaut]

181. The name is stupid, but it highlights a real issue.

So much was lost in the message by trying to be trendy and internet friendly. The real issues are:

- White people sometimes care more about pets than black people being shot in the streets
- White people needlessly waste police resources and put black people in peril because they feel uncomfortable that a black person is walking down the street
- Supposed “Liberals” sanctimoniously lecture others about racism, but do the same thing.
- White fragility, being threatened by black people or minorities living near you, having the same jobs as you, and occupying the same spaces as you.


It’s not about the term “Wypipo.” That was an attention grabber. The real issue is being ignored. On the other hand, you’re all still talking about it, so maybe it was effective after all.

[JustAnotherGen]

196. I'm so over this

Move on folks.

[KG]

211. only wypipo would say that

[nini]

212. LOL

Wypipo are so butthurt and outraged over this term. I can't imagine what would happen if they actually had to endure some of the shit POC do? Oh the vapors would be so thick we'd all choke to death.

[SoFlaDem]

222. +1000

(And I am white)

[nini]

230. So am I

I believe that term applies to many as I see them myself.

[hueymahl]

223. So many people, so many thin skins to puncture

It's not just you. Every group has some word or phrase that hits too close to home and offends them.

Is this a "racist" term? By the strictest definition, yes, it is. But it is far more than that, as many have eloquently explained above.

I hope I live to see the day when terms like this don't create any backlash or hurt feelings. On that day, we will truly have evolved as a people. Until then, they serve a very useful purpose - that hurtful feeling? It is your conscience speaking to you.

[phylny]

237. I respectfully disagree.

I am a privileged white woman. I know this. I didn't even have to be told in the last five years. I've known it since I was a teenager.

I have not experienced the racism others have. I haven't experienced the slurs of bigots my people did when they arrived in NY in the late 1800s.

My conscience does not weigh on me. I treat others respectfully. I acknowledge my privilege and work to help others in my life daily. I advocate for my clients, children, who are people of color, and respect their families as I respect all families.I work my ass off for them, as I do all clients. I'm not hurt. Using the word "wypipo" is meant to be used exactly how we all understand it to be used. Some people are bending themselves into a pretzel explaining that it's not derogatory or divisive or a slur. It doesn't hurt ME. I find language meant to be a slur reflects more on the people who use it than it does me.

[hueymahl]

262. I think we are saying the same thing

Yours is certainly more elegantly said.

Regardless, I agree with your post.

[wellst0nev0ter]

438. I'm starting to think "wypipo" derives from

from countless white posters who derail any and all discussions of racial injustices by saying "not all white people."

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

397. So very true.

[NCTraveler]

227. I think we need to have a silent thread for wypipo.

The victimization of wypipo clearly deserves a silent thread, unless one want to offer thoughts and prayers, of course.

[hueymahl]

264. That is pretty damn funny! NT

[cyclonefence]

229. The thing is that although we don't think of ourselves as racist,

every white person in this country, including recent immigrants, have benefited from institutional racism since before 1776. It's not "our fault," which seems to me is what sticks in the craws of people who object to "wypipo," but it's undeniable. No one is blaming you, Whiskey Grinder, but if you are white, you have always had a leg up if only because of your skin color. All white people bear the burden of this racism, even if we personally are not guilty of perpetrating it.

[Marcuse]

234. Deplorables are Wypipo

In the words of Tennessee Ernie Ford:

My little song is finished
My little song is through
And I didn’t necessarily mean that song for you
But if you don’t like the way my little song goes
That’s a mighty good sign
that I’ve been stomping on your toes.

[Fozzledick]

242. It's just something Tr0lp1p0 say.

It's meant to be offensive to divide people against each other, but it comes off as just dumb.

Says more about the user than the target.

[EffieBlack]

254. You know how it's meant when black people say it?

How do you know? Who told you?

[Fozzledick]

256. I know how it's meant when Tr0lp1p0 say it.

Painfully obvious, really.

[EffieBlack]

257. How do you define "Tr0lp1p0?"

[Fozzledick]

258. Recursively. It's a self-defining meme.

The easiest way to find one is to drop some bait and see who bites.

[Iggo]

276. Just like "wypipo" then.

[Iggo]

247. It's not supposed to be.

[Tarc]

266. The people that are the most upset by this term

are the ones most in need of self-reflection on race issues.

"I'm not racist!" is great, but you don't get a gold star sticker for what should be the default human condition. Do more.

[Iggo]

275. How come we never give medals to cops who don't kill unarmed black people?

[Doodley]

296. Does that give you license to use a racist slang term? Are you saying anyone, like me, who finds

racist language offensive is a white racist?

[Tarc]

298. As a white male, IMO, white people really have no standing to be offended by things like this

What you are spouting is getting a bit close to alt-right, faux libertarian talking points. Perhaps you should think about that.

[Doodley]

303. Don't tell me what I can and cannot be offended by. And how dare you compare me to the

alt-right? You are saying that because I am white, I have no "standing" to be offended. Stop stereotyping people by color. Around 1 in 10 on another thread on DU say they find it offensive. Are you going to call them racists too? I would like you to apologize.

[Tarc]

317. That's exactly what I said

I'm glad you understood.

[Doodley]

321. To be clear, are you calling many on DU racist because they are offended by the racial slang term?

[Tarc]

323. Oh dear, guess I have to rescind that "glad you understood" statement

As my "yep" was clearly referring to your "You are saying that because I am white, I have no "standing" to be offended" query.

You have a lot of rage building up over being called out over this. If only there were causes and issues where such rage could be channeled.

If only....

[Eliot Rosewater]

316. And they STILL havent figured that out yet.

[Downtown Hound]

328. God, not this shit again. Move on.

Signed-a wypipo

[MichMan]

329. I find the term offensive for an altogether different reason

Ridicules and stereotypes the dialect and speech of black people

[procon]

334. "Wypipo" is a recent affectation, a learned cant, not a "dialect".

No one is forced to use a racial slur like that particular word, its a deliberate choice. It's not as if other words aren't available that are not based on ethnic stereotypes. It serves one purpose, to create a divisive and hostile atmosphere that fosters hate and resentment. By this time, that goal should not be a surprising revelation to anyone.

[bettyellen]

330. Condescending bullshit.

[alphafemale]

343. I just try not to behave in the way that deserved it.

There's no nick given to white people that doesn't make me laugh my ass off.

None of them hurt my feelings in the slightest.

Slurs white men have made for women and other races are evil things and often spoken before they intend to inflict violence or death.

[SMC22307]

353. Reccing for "not clever," "divisive" and "lazy stereotype."

I really couldn't care less what some dumbass on Twitter calls me because of the color of my skin, but I do want to know this... are we now using "wypipo" and "blapipo" on DU?

[samnsara]

378. I have never heard of that term before reading it on DU

[Doodley]

380. Maybe you haven't encountered trolls elsewhere.

[wellst0nev0ter]

440. Or you two have never been on Black Twitter

You should try it sometimes, they serve great tea.

[EffieBlack]

442. Exactly

Nothing like watching people who never make any effort to interact with minorities in any setting other than their own comfy conclaves where they dominate the dialogue being shocked SHOCKED that we say and do things that they’ve never noticed before. I mean, the Root or Black Twitter are private clubs that one needs a special blapipo passport to enter. They’re just not interested to bother.

[wellst0nev0ter]

461. Me, I personally don't use "wypipo"

I'm perfectly content with using "white" as a full noun, even if it's just as offensive to the reverse racism brigade.

[gollygee]

405. It's a big thing on Twitter

if you do a search on Twitter you'll find a lot.

[Iggo]

421. 'Cause you've never been to The Root.

[EffieBlack]

425. Maybe because you haven't made any effort to listen to what black people say unless it's brought

directly to you?

[Thekaspervote]

402. The OP keeps refreshing the post in hopes it will continue to be divisive.. ramp up rhetoric

[xmas74]

412. I'm pretty darn white

And I know the difference between the color of my skin and "wypipo". There's a difference.

Why are you purposely being so obtuse? Why the feigned offense?

[Bucky]

418. Why is the fact that it's offensive of to other people not important to you?

Why can't you use a term that doesn't rely on racial characteristics to depict hatred and bigotry?

To be blunt, defending the use of such a term denotes a lack of imagination.

[mvd]

428. Here's my take

It doesn't really bother me. As a white person, I don't take offense easily. Whites have never been slaves and denied rights because they are white. But I avoid using any names like this for groups. I just think I can express myself differently.

[Bucky]

469. fair enough

If a term of derision and prejudice bothers other people, I don't use it. I don't see why it's so hard for other people to get that.

I mean, it's not like it's winning anything. It's sarcasm, the language of powerlessness.

[xmas74]

460. As I said,

I'm white and I know it doesn't apply to me.

[Bucky]

416. Don't say lazy

Besides being a dog whistle racist term, it's also factually inaccurate.

I know you mean intellectually lazy. But people defending use of the term wypipo are in fact going to extraordinary lengths to rationalize their own bad behavior.

[guillaumeb]

453. Recommended.

Oversimplification is rarely clever, or insightful.

[argyl]

457. "Wypipo" doesn't bother me at all. This is much ado about nothing.

[ck4829]

465. "Liberal" as a dirty word is not clever, yet it's all over the media

I've had to suck it up for years as I've seen the ideology I adhere to be treated like it's a thought crime.

Sorry, but not sorry that the script is being flipped (And this is from a white person).

[stmac]

471. this is the part where..

I trip all over myself in my eagerness to outdo the other 10,000 white male posters in professing (despite my whiteness) complete and utter 100% un-offendedness of this racial slur being "punched at me from below", ack my privilege, and express my absolute bewilderment, disgust, and outrage at those three members here who would *dare* be offended that a racial slur used to broad-brush an entire segment of a race...

But that would be boring What I will say is:

-I'm a little saddened upon seeing new racial slurs being invented in 2018
-I realize that the vast majority of people people in the real world would not use such a word, so I'm not really bothered that some people on the internet do.
-The fact that some people use this slur will have no effect on my core values, my belief and commitment to racial unity, harmony and equality, or any other aspect of my worldview.
-In other words, I won't lose any sleep over it

Does all this make me a Wipipo? You decide!

[obamanut2012]

474. Yes it is