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Empowerer

(3,900 posts)
Fri May 18, 2018, 02:47 AM May 2018

Here's an idea: If anyone's uncomfortable with discussions about race, don't participate in them

But telling the rest of us that such discussions are irrelevant or inappropriate or, of course, divisive, is both patronizing and downright silly. The very fact that every thread that introduces the topic in a reasonable, thoughtful way is full of interesting, dynamic and respectful comments, discussions and back and forth puts a lie to the “Oh, not this shit again. Nobody’s interested in this” whines.

If anyone doesn’t like these discussions or they make them uncomfortable, it seems pretty silly to dive into them. Unless one is a masochist or a disruptor, why engage in them? Just ignore them.

But lecturing and hectoring and trolling the rest of us doesn’t do any good and is actually the primary cause of the divisiveness folks seem so worried about.

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Here's an idea: If anyone's uncomfortable with discussions about race, don't participate in them (Original Post) Empowerer May 2018 OP
If you feel you should set the rules for others discussion of problems you don't have, STOP. bettyellen May 2018 #1
Exactly leftofcool May 2018 #2
K&R! betsuni May 2018 #3
K&R GoneOffShore May 2018 #4
K&R catrose May 2018 #5
Discussions about race vs. lectures about race oberliner May 2018 #6
For you, any mention of race, especially by anyone of color, is a "lecture" Empowerer May 2018 #11
Lol Solomon May 2018 #12
You noticed that, too? Empowerer May 2018 #13
LOL EffieBlack May 2018 #15
Popularity doesn't actually equal correctness mythology May 2018 #21
For You, any qualifier or minute disagreement merits immediate dismissal whathehell May 2018 #28
Very dependent on who is delivering. NCTraveler May 2018 #16
This post is so meta. WhiskeyGrinder May 2018 #18
Meanwhile the Wypipo term you despise has nothing to do with lectures... bettyellen May 2018 #22
Seriously! There is this little button marked 'trash this thread' Maeve May 2018 #7
Yes, that's precisely my point Empowerer May 2018 #8
Those who can't tolerate disagreement can do the same.. whathehell May 2018 #29
"You have trashed the keyword Wypipo" phylny May 2018 #27
... SQUEE May 2018 #32
K&R ! stonecutter357 May 2018 #9
But how will everyone know that it makes them uncomfortable?!? Blue_Adept May 2018 #10
I think the racism itself is the divisiveness, not addressing and understanding it. sunRISEnow May 2018 #14
K&R brer cat May 2018 #17
Best thing I've read all day JustAnotherGen May 2018 #19
Ding! EricMaundry May 2018 #20
What a concept! mcar May 2018 #23
It really is that simple, isn't it... SidDithers May 2018 #24
Lol whathehell May 2018 #30
K & R Thank you for posting Wwcd May 2018 #25
Gee, that is almost common sense!!! still_one May 2018 #26
Here's another one: If anyone is "uncomfortable" with disagreement whathehell May 2018 #31
 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
1. If you feel you should set the rules for others discussion of problems you don't have, STOP.
Fri May 18, 2018, 02:51 AM
May 2018

Back the hell off and sit alone with your discomfort, and mediatate on how it’s a problem you truly can never understand.

Empowerer

(3,900 posts)
11. For you, any mention of race, especially by anyone of color, is a "lecture"
Fri May 18, 2018, 09:03 AM
May 2018

You are so predictable and consistent that it’s laughable.

But I would have thought you would lay low for a bit while you salve that assburn you got yesterday after you tried to troll one particular person of color. Your boneheaded move didn’t go the way you’d hoped, did it? You got your butt handed to you in comment after comment, enough recs to count on one hand with fingers left over, and then your thread sunk like a stone, while the thread you were trying to mock soared right over your head.

But here are, bright and early, going for it again, whining and whitesplaining as if anyone takes yu seriously.

I can’t wait to see what comic relief you have in store for us today.

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
21. Popularity doesn't actually equal correctness
Fri May 18, 2018, 02:52 PM
May 2018

Many of the posts on race are little more than reactionary nonsense driven by emotion rather than actual logic.

It's the internet. Unfortunately deep rational philosophical thought isn't common.

whathehell

(29,067 posts)
28. For You, any qualifier or minute disagreement merits immediate dismissal
Fri May 18, 2018, 05:04 PM
May 2018

as "whitesplaining".

Good luck achieving anything like a "dialogue" that way.

You see, you may feel entitled to effectively tell white people to just "sit down and shut up", but like all of the self-respecting, they'll be inclined to disagree. .Just a thought.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
16. Very dependent on who is delivering.
Fri May 18, 2018, 11:27 AM
May 2018

A lecture on the topic, by the right person, would hold much more value than a simple discussion. Interestingly enough, any good lecture would be followed by discussions among many platforms.

You really couldn't be more wrong in how you see this.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
22. Meanwhile the Wypipo term you despise has nothing to do with lectures...
Fri May 18, 2018, 04:00 PM
May 2018

It’s bizarre how the offended are consistently uninformed yet feel compelled to comment anyway. Just no.

Maeve

(42,282 posts)
7. Seriously! There is this little button marked 'trash this thread'
Fri May 18, 2018, 07:22 AM
May 2018

Makes it alllll go away.....or even "Ignore this poster" if you can't bring yourself to even see what someone has written without losing it...

Empowerer

(3,900 posts)
8. Yes, that's precisely my point
Fri May 18, 2018, 08:44 AM
May 2018

And those people who consistently try to disrupt, alert and hide, hijack and shut down discussions should use it.

whathehell

(29,067 posts)
29. Those who can't tolerate disagreement can do the same..
Fri May 18, 2018, 05:16 PM
May 2018

Otherwise, they should be posting in a closed group or forum,
not on General Discussion.

whathehell

(29,067 posts)
31. Here's another one: If anyone is "uncomfortable" with disagreement
Fri May 18, 2018, 05:28 PM
May 2018

during such discussions, form a closed group or forum where you can throw out all dissenters -- No one posting on GD is entitled to that privilege.

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