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Mosby

(16,311 posts)
Fri May 18, 2018, 04:17 PM May 2018

The Gaza Protest Is About Ending Israel

In the past few days, we have come closer than we have in some time to touching the core issues that drive the conflict between Israelis, Palestinians, and the wider Arab and Islamic world.

After decades of discussing “territories,” “borders,” “settlements,” “two states” and “occupation,” and lamenting the lack of trust between the sides and the absence of leadership, we are finally discussing the key question, which is: Is the Arab and Islamic world, and the Palestinians among them, ready to acknowledge that the Jewish people, as a people, have the equal right to self-determination and sovereignty in their ancestral homeland?

Put another way, is Israel a temporary aberration in what should be properly an Arab and Islamic region?

The twin images of the clashes on the 1967 border of Palestinian Gaza with Israel, and the inauguration of the American Embassy in Jerusalem, both serve to highlight the two dominant issues in the conflict that directly touch upon the question of the right of the Jewish people to the land: Jerusalem, and the Palestinian demand for “return” into the state of Israel within its pre 1967 lines.

No other two issues expose so clearly the extent to which the dominant Islamic, Arab and Palestinian narrative remains still one in which Israel is a colonial enterprise of a foreign, invented people who came out of nowhere to a place to which they have no connection.


Read more: https://forward.com/opinion/401263/the-gaza-protest-is-about-ending-israel/

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The Gaza Protest Is About Ending Israel (Original Post) Mosby May 2018 OP
At this point I'm not even giving a shit anymore Blue_Tires May 2018 #1
I've come to understand the bullshit cycle is superior to the carbon cycle. enki23 May 2018 #2
Isn't there a separate forum for this? nt Kirk Lover May 2018 #3
It's dead Jim. Scurrilous May 2018 #4
That's logical. Kirk Lover May 2018 #5
maybe it's time. konnie May 2018 #6
There are 57 majority Islamic nations. There is only 1 majority Jewish nation. grossproffit May 2018 #8
Duh. Israel isn't going anywhere. The end. grossproffit May 2018 #7

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
1. At this point I'm not even giving a shit anymore
Fri May 18, 2018, 04:25 PM
May 2018

Either find a way to make a two-state solution work or have some great winner-take-all battle out in the desert and the loser leaves... Either way, just find some kind of method TO END IT

enki23

(7,788 posts)
2. I've come to understand the bullshit cycle is superior to the carbon cycle.
Fri May 18, 2018, 04:31 PM
May 2018

None of this shit will ever stay buried long enough to become fossil fuel.

konnie

(44 posts)
6. maybe it's time.
Fri May 18, 2018, 06:12 PM
May 2018

I get that after WW2 the sorrow of the holocaust was overwhelming. but in hindsight, coming so fast on the heels of the British "solution" to redraw boundary lines in the middle east with zero knowledge or caring about the facts, giving Palestine to them was clearly not the correct thing to do.

and now here we are and the only thing to show for it is a lot of money spent protecting that decision and a mountain of dead bodies.

Instead of a fix, it's more of the same with hardliners on both sides getting no where. as always follow the money. The other middle eastern nations rattle swords but none have done anything to save the actual Palestinians. why is that? do they not respect those people?
do they think of Palestinians as their negros? ( I know touchy subject) (see Prosperous Native American Sioux tribes vs Lakota Sioux history)

The only solution is to dissolve Israel, and force the 2 nations to merge. i know - good luck with that.

This would be exactly like reconstruction in the south after the slaves were freed. and we know how that has turned out.

the only way this will ever end is for the peace makers to gain the will of
the people on ALL sides.

i for one will never understand how those exact same people who fight to the
death there, can go anywhere else in the world and live side by side and
never bat an eye. must be something in that sand.

this is just me, but i would give every citizen a year to move out, then on date 366 just nuke it all so no one can ever live there again. how soon do you think there would be a "come to Allah/Yahway" moment. and there would be peace.











grossproffit

(5,591 posts)
8. There are 57 majority Islamic nations. There is only 1 majority Jewish nation.
Fri May 18, 2018, 06:19 PM
May 2018

There are 2 billion Muslims worldwide. There are less than 15 million Jews worldwide.

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