The Houston Chief of Police, just posted this on his FB page.

[kpete]

Link to tweet

[Glorfindel]

1. Thanks for sharing, kpete.

Evidently he's a brave, good man who has had enough. We need more like him.

[Lonestarblue]

38. My former police chief.

He is a good man, and we were sad to lose him to Houston. He has just stated what every law enforcement officer and every concerned citizen needs to be saying. Enough is enough, and we will not tolerate inaction any longer. I hope the Parkland atudents are able to keep up the momentum until the midterms—and even beyond. Senator Cruz responded to the shooting with these inane words: “Once again Texas has seen the face of evil.” He and his Republican NRA junkies, with their support of loose gun laws and their refusal to take any action whatsoever, are the ones welcoming that evil into our lives every day. They do not care how many children die, or about the thousands of Americans who die from gun violence each year, so long as they keep their high ratings from the NRA and get their money. I hope Beto o’Rourke hangs the enabling of school shooters around his neck!

[sprinkleeninow]

71. "....seen the face of evil."

Empty words. Like 1 Corinthians 13:1--»

"If I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, but do not have love, I have become a noisy gong or clanging cymbal." [NASB]

Meaningless drivel from a mindless twit. What else to expect?

[PatSeg]

2. That was powerful

Thank you for posting.

[Gothmog]

3. K&R

[lillypaddle]

4. K&R nt

[cwydro]

5. Wow.

Excellent.

[keithbvadu2]

6. NRA supporters would rather have dead children than any gun control.

NRA supporters would rather have dead children than any gun control.

To the gun industry, dead children are merely collateral damage/acceptable losses for gun industry profits and political donations.

[Fla Dem]

36. Same ones who get all fanatical about killing unborn children. Hypocrisy.

How about protecting the ones that have been born.

[keithbvadu2]

63. Pro-life is a myth.

Pro-life is a myth.

The supposed pro-lifers cared not when the state of Texas (republican gov) deliberately killed living baby Sun Hudson against the mother's wishes because he was an inconvenience to the state.

It is not a matter of life to the supposed pro-lifers.

It is a matter of control.

[Haggis for Breakfast]

82. Wasn't it the DARLING of the republican right

that knuckle-dragging fool, "Joe the Plumber" (who wasn't one at all), who said, "Your dead children do not mean more than my Second Amendment rights." or something like that in the immediate aftermath of the massacre at Sandy Hook.

[keithbvadu2]

83. Joe The Plumber: 'Your Dead Kids..."

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/05/27/joe-the-plumber-guns_n_5397981.html

Joe The Plumber: ‘Your Dead Kids Don’t Trump My Constitutional Rights’ To Have Guns

[Haggis for Breakfast]

84. Sweet Jesus

It's even worse than I thought. Thank you, Keithbvadu2.

[tiredtoo]

7. K&R EOM

[aikoaiko]

8. I wonder if he'll accept the same gun control for his cops?

[pazzyanne]

10. What is their job?

Can they do that job without the tools they need? Our country is in serious trouble on all fronts. I think some comments are not helpful.

[aikoaiko]

13. Police are only allowed to use lethal force In selfdefense or defense of others

Just like non/police civilians.

And as a general rule violent criminals don’t look for police to attack - they go after nonpolice.

[pazzyanne]

16. All due respect, but

that is not what your post implied. After reading your explanation I remain confused about the intent of your statement. It makes no sense to me.

[aikoaiko]

24. I'm saying that civilian and civilian police

should m, by law, be able to keep and bear the same firearms.

[Thirty by 30]

27. No.

Like so many in times of real crisis, you muddy the issue with an obtuse argument that only serves to buttress inaction.

[aikoaiko]

37. This is a discussion board. We discuss.

I'm all for taking meaningful, constitutional action, but I'm not going to support a cop who says he doesn't want to talk about rights when dealing with gun control while he is exempt from those gun control laws.

[AllyCat]

50. They call self-defense ANY time they decide to kill someone

Usually a person of color. Go for your wallet at a traffic stop? Fraid!! Shoot now!

[yardwork]

17. I don't think he's interested in your efforts to distract from the main issue.

I think he's hit rock bottom and he's through with the bullshit.

[aikoaiko]

22. Or he's glad he won't have to follow the same laws.

What’s good for the civilian cop is good for the civilian in terms of firearms.

What would I care in what he is interested in hearing? He’s a public servant and he gets to hear what the public says whether he likes it or not.

Or do you think he needs more special protections in that way, too.

[Thirty by 30]

28. WTH is "civilian cop"??

A police officer on duty is not a civilian. He/she is properly armed in the line of duty to serve and protect. Got that now? Good.

[aikoaiko]

33. civilian police as opposed to others such as military police.

Got that now. Good.

And you're right that the job of police is to protect and serve. They do have special powers, but they can use lethal force only when in defense of self or others like non-police. Got than now? Good.

Label notwithstanding, cops on the streets of America are facing the same criminals as non-police in America. And I don't see a reason for them to be exempted from gun control laws.

[marble falls]

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Maybe you owe someone an apology???

[Cartoonist]

31. The same Laws

Background checks
Gun safety class
Registration and licensing

How's that for a start? I doubt he would have a problem with that.

[aikoaiko]

35. And high capacity magazine, ARs, new machine guns, open carry, etc.

Go for it. Tweet him.

[mountain grammy]

47. This is an interesting point..

I watched a show where the reporter was riding with English cops. They are unarmed for the most part, but the force does have firearms. The cops call in other cops with firearms when faced with an armed suspect.
Bottom line, unarmed cops don't murder citizens like our cops do.. The police chief should have addressed that too. Around 1000 citizens a year die at the hands of the police, many more than mass shootings. I think that's what I'm getting from your posts. Citizens are accountable, cops are not. Gun control for all!

[aikoaiko]

49. It's true. The dichotomy is unreasonable.

I’m on the RKBA for all nonviolent criminal or mentally ill including cops.

If the chief is willing to disarm his everyday people, he needs to do the same with his cops. It’s I’m sure he won’t because cops want to defend d themselves even if innocent people are killed.

[mountain grammy]

51. It can also be argued that the police

are the actual "well regulated militia" and the RKBA really applies to them and not the average citizen. If the police were well regulated, and citizen access to firearms was also well regulated, we just might stop slaughtering ourselves and each other.

[aikoaiko]

55. I havent seen any case law making that point.

About the police being the well regulated militia.

But a lot of law points to the RKBA for the people to constitute militias.

[mountain grammy]

62. I know case law doesn't support that view

but I believe it could be interpreted as the original intent. Reading the debates on the issue during the writing of the Constitution, it seems to me local militias protecting their localities is what the founders had in mind for the RKBA. Of course, runaway slaves factored into the debate. Slavery was the basis of all evil in our governing document.
Just my own take on it as the Consitution was taught to me and from my own readings on the subject.

Just because a lot of laws support the RKBA doesn't mean that was the original intent of the Constitution and many scholars have argued just that point.

What do you think "a well regulated militia" means?

[Major Nikon]

59. Don't forget certification

Not to mention loss of certification = guns go bye-bye.

[Hoyt]

52. Why do gunners say ludicrous stuff like that? Police could reduce their weaponry if it

weren't for the very guns you guys refuse to relinquish.

[aikoaiko]

53. We don't see police disarming in nonviolent US communities

They like all the tactical stuff just in case it is needed.

[Hoyt]

65. Cracks me up when gunners into AR-15s, etc., start turning on police to maintain their access to

guns/rifles that only the military should have. I guess you are going to try the old NRA meme -- we need these weapons to protect democracy.

Sorry, it's quite clear you are into protecting access to your guns, and will use any argument to do so.

[Major Nikon]

56. Really?

[aikoaiko]

58. Like, for real.

[LanternWaste]

88. No, more like synthetic.

No, more like synthetic.

Bless your little heart.

[aikoaiko]

89. Right back at you.

Right back at you.

[Iggo]

64. I tried. Lord knows I tried. But that's it.

[Chemisse]

79. Right now we're talking about school shooters.

Kids getting hold of guns; mentally ill people with guns; violent people who can easily buy a gun. If you make this about police shootings also, a very serious problem itself, then nothing gets done. At all. Rinse and repeat. Plan for more school shootings next week, next month.

Or is that what you want?

[LanternWaste]

87. I'd a five dollar bet with myself someone would attempt the false equivalency to appear relevant.

I'd a five dollar bet with myself someone would attempt the false equivalency to appear relevant.

Logic. It's not just for post-grad students anymore...

[aikoaiko]

90. You think you know what you're talking about, but you don't.

You think you know what you're talking about, but you don't.

[pazzyanne]

9. K & R

With tears.

[dalton99a]

11. Acevedo is a decent man. He had a good record in Austin.

[ButSeeYa]

12. Excellent. Thx for sharing.

[OldHippieChick]

14. What a delightful

difference from so many in law enforcement. May others have his courage.

[dlk]

15. Meaningful Words from a Wise Man Who Sees, Every Day, What Guns Have Done to Us

The Houston Chief of Police gets it.

[Hangingon]

32. Yes, he gets it.

He used a tragedy outside his jurisdiction to get his name noticed. Just another politician.

[oberliner]

18. Will anything ever actually happen?

What will it take?

[Nay]

30. Frankly, it'll take a repeal of the 2nd Amendment. nt

[oberliner]

34. I don't see that happening

[Nay]

40. Oh, I don't either. That's why guns are such an intractable problem. Add to that the

fact there are so many hundreds of millions of guns out there already -- well, it's a problem that is without an effective solution.

[discntnt_irny_srcsm]

75. This is the reality

There are over 600 million guns in private hands in the world and about half are here in the US.
A course of action which doesn't take into account that number and its history is doomed to either fail or to create more problems than it could ever hope to solve.

[bronxiteforever]

19. Thank you for posting. A call to action K & R.

[Cha]

20. Wow.. Pretty much what some have

called for around here.

Good on ya, PC Art Acevedo

[Nanjeanne]

21. Brilliant. Perfect.

[Honeycombe8]

23. Is that for real? BRAVO!

Notice the difference in "plain speaking" from this man vs. the AZ sheriff and Trump's "plain speaking," which is used with vulgarities, insults, and to demean and tear people down.

[aikoaiko]

25. Does the Chief actually have a position on the action he would like to see?

Maybe he tweeted about it some other time.

[LisaL]

26. I would also like to know what that is.

In this particular case, the shooter didn't own the guns, guns apparently belonged to his father.
So, what would have prevented the shooting in this case? Holding parents accountable when their children use their guns?

[Ezior]

39. Why not? We do it like that in Germany.

A father failed to prevent his son from accessing his gun, which is a felony. The son took the gun and killed 15 students and himself. Father is convicted 2 years later and gets 18 months on probation.

Now most fathers (and mothers) who are gun-owners make sure that only they have access to their guns.

[LisaL]

45. I am all for it.

I would have just liked him to explain what he thinks the action should be.

[3Hotdogs]

46. I'd go for that.

[leanforward]

29. What the Chief just wrote.

We need action, action, and action. Weapons are not a god given right.

I'm with the Chief.

[Upthevibe]

41. Thank you for posting this...

Good for him....

[MineralMan]

42. Well said, Chief!

[randr]

43. Truth

It can be proven that stricter gun laws save lives.
Until then our children are on the front lines of a war we are refusing to fight in.

[BobTheSubgenius]

44. With applause and thanks to Mr. Acevedo...

...his name will not be the last one we learn in the aftermath of this slaughter, nor his voice the only new one.

It needs to be added to a roaring torrent.

[gademocrat7]

48. On point

Thank you, sir.

[Scurrilous]

54. K&R

[smirkymonkey]

57. Thank you Mr. Acevedo.

It's nice to see someone in LE go against the grain for once.

[PatrickforO]

60. Yesterday, I called my Republican US Senator.

I was calling about someone I knew who had died of breast cancer, and about all those who die or just get sicker because they cannot afford healthcare or life-saving drugs.

When the staffer answered and asked what she could do for me, I know you're supposed to keep it brief, but I said, "Where do I begin?"

Then, I went through a short litany:
- Trump gets money from the Chinese and is now helping a Chinese company he had banned.
- Russia hacking our entire grid.
- The people still languishing without power and clean water in Puerto Rico (I said I don't even think Trump KNEW PR was part of America)
- Why, when we taxpayers had to bail out Wall Street for $750 billion isn't he negotiating with those bankers to FORGIVE the PR debt?
- The people, including the person I knew, who die because they can't afford healthcare.
- A highway project we desperately need in my state but that they can't get the money for.

I finished by saying, "We don't need a wall, or a deportation bus. We need better roads, affordable college, healthcare and stronger Social Security, and the giant tax cut you did for billionaires has forced the deficit up into the trillions. This isn't America!"

Now, I hear about the Trump appointee to NASA acknowledging actual science. And now this. Plus lots of Republicans retiring, mostly the ones willing to negotiate and actually try and move forward.

Maybe lots of people are now waking up to the evil cancer that squats illegally in the White House.

[jpak]

61. Wow

[pecosbob]

66. Nice sentiments, Mr Acevedo

but I grew up in Houston and the police there are some of the most violent in the world and have been killing innocent people (in particular, people of color) for all of the sixty years of my life. Why don't you do something about that?

[Ferrets are Cool]

67. I can't give this a bigger K and R

[relogic]

68. His Record Defending Cops Who Have...

abused their power and authority resulting in civilian deaths is pertinent. I don’t know Mr. Acevedo’s record in the scenarios in which his men in blue have escalated any encounter with civilians that end up with literal executions of poc, homeless, hearing impaired, mentally challenged or jaywalkers. Please fortify my confidence in his sincerity by pointing to his unbiased criticism and condemnation when LEO’s are convicted of capital crimes against these and other innocent Americans as they only wanted to be about their daily lives and ended up in some morgue.

If any police chief should condemn the flood of weapons perpetrated by the NRA it is one who knows presidents and cops are not above the law.

[Iggo]

70. In this instance, I'll take Good over Perfect. (n/t)

[Gothmog]

69. Art Acevedo is a good man

[sprinkleeninow]

72. HOUSTON! 💙

[Sophiegirl]

73. And yet....

Nothing will change.

[Hekate]

74. Well done

[Nitram]

76. Wow! That's a powerful statement.

I'd like to thank him for that. Actually, I just went to his FB page and thanked him.

[Demovictory9]

77. wow

[nolabear]

78. Well done.

Well done indeed.

[UTUSN]

80. R#250 & K

[ailsagirl]

81. Thanks for posting this

[Dem_4_Life]

85. Wow!

[malaise]

91. He's on M$NBComcast now n/t