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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Mon May 21, 2018, 10:40 AM May 2018

Trump Was Actually Warned Ahead of FBI 'Infiltration'

May 21, 2018 at 10:15 am EDT By Taegan Goddard

As President Trump calls for an investigation into whether the FBI “infiltrated” his campaign in a supposedly nefarious plot, some of his defenders suggest that if the FBI wasn’t out to “get him” they would have at least tried to warn him.

Of course, the FBI did warn him, right after he became the GOP nominee on July 19, 2016.

As NBC News reported last year:

The warning came in the form of a high-level counterintelligence briefing by senior FBI officials, the officials said. A similar briefing was given to Hillary Clinton, they added. They said the briefings, which are commonly provided to presidential nominees, were designed to educate the candidates and their top aides about potential threats from foreign spies.

The candidates were urged to alert the FBI about any suspicious overtures to their campaigns, the officials said.


It would be entirely reasonable to think the FBI would use informants to speak to suspects in their counterintelligence investigation into the Russia threat — including those in the Trump campaign.

In fact, it would have been accepted procedure for the FBI.

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https://politicalwire.com/2018/05/21/trump-was-actually-warned-ahead-of-fbi-infiltration/
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Trump Was Actually Warned Ahead of FBI 'Infiltration' (Original Post) DonViejo May 2018 OP
The candidates were urged to alert the FBI about any suspicious overtures to their campaigns Botany May 2018 #1
The FBI had a duty to investigate any attempt of foreign influence of the election. olegramps May 2018 #8
Good Post. Yoo should have been disbarred and prosecuted. Pepsidog May 2018 #11
I content that much of what is happening could have been avoided. olegramps May 2018 #17
i agree entirely. Pepsidog May 2018 #19
Rethugs have been committing treason since way back... magicarpet May 2018 #23
I remember something about Old Yeller skipping those briefings. Hugin May 2018 #2
And not just RUMP too that ignored warnings of Russian and other agents' ... SWBTATTReg May 2018 #3
I don't think most of the people around Trump ignored the warnings NewJeffCT May 2018 #5
Let me guess NewJeffCT May 2018 #4
Worried his own surveillance network missed something bucolic_frolic May 2018 #6
Need To Tell Trump What They Told Us When The American People Felt Surveiled.... global1 May 2018 #7
Discredit the source D_Master81 May 2018 #9
"Don't nobody say nothin'!" sandensea May 2018 #10
+1 uponit7771 May 2018 #13
What lowlifes. sandensea May 2018 #14
But we already know that IQ45 doesn't like lengthy briefings ... aggiesal May 2018 #12
K&R Solly Mack May 2018 #15
People who politicize everything PatSeg May 2018 #16
Great storyline cilla4progress May 2018 #18
Translations suggest that Russians were in contact with Trump around this time. thomasafine May 2018 #20
K&R Scurrilous May 2018 #21
He was actually warned about Flynn infiltrating us for Russia, too. Mc Mike May 2018 #22

Botany

(70,501 posts)
1. The candidates were urged to alert the FBI about any suspicious overtures to their campaigns
Mon May 21, 2018, 10:48 AM
May 2018

Trump was told about "it" and did nothing except for working right along
w/the Russians. Fucking traitor.

olegramps

(8,200 posts)
8. The FBI had a duty to investigate any attempt of foreign influence of the election.
Mon May 21, 2018, 12:14 PM
May 2018

Trump is becoming increasingly reckless as the investigation continues unabated by Mueller. I fear that Trump will attempt to use the claim of the Unitary Executive theory to shut down the investigation. This was a tacit of Bush during his presidency advanced by the neocons, such as Professor Yoo, that has been rejected by the majority of constitutional scholars. I would not be surprised if Bolton, a neocon member of the PNAC who pushed into the Iraq War, is encouraging this tactic. It would in effect result in a virtual autocratic government little different than those of China and Russia.

The government that has emerged in Russian and China can be described as a marriage between an autocratic government and capitalism under one party rule and are in close ties to the oligarchs. It is a natural condition that is highly acceptable to the ultra-wealthy oligarchs who view it as system for protecting their wealth. This concept is becoming increasingly more popular in a number of Western Countries, including Poland, Germany, Italy France, Turkey...and is not limited to communistic governments. It driven basically by the stagnation of wages and the increasing concentration of wealth and is easily preyed on by demagogues who scapegoat immigration as a major culprit and calling for protectionism and spewing nationalistic extremism.

It could be a very challenging time for the nation since it has been polarized by radical left wing extremists who also appear to be susceptible and even welcoming to these notions. It is also influenced to no small amount by the evangelicals who are especially addicted to concepts of authoritarianism coupled with messianic end-time beliefs.

olegramps

(8,200 posts)
17. I content that much of what is happening could have been avoided.
Mon May 21, 2018, 12:58 PM
May 2018

The Bush administration should have been held accountable for taking us into war on absolute lies concocted by Cheney, Rummy, and the neocons. I will never agree with not holding them accountable and in essence allowing them to disseminate their damnable lies even after they left office. The whole damn administration should be in Leavenworth.

magicarpet

(14,145 posts)
23. Rethugs have been committing treason since way back...
Tue May 22, 2018, 10:09 AM
May 2018

* Nixon - Viet War Settlement fiasco

* Reagan - Iran military supplies promised via Israel hand off - then use the $$ to covertly finance the extreme right wing Nicaraguan Contras by military attache Oliver North - in direct and illegal defiance to the intent of the US Congress - all if Iran held the American Embassy employees hostage until after the Carter/Reagan national election.

* Bush II & Cheney illegal Iraq War based on lies and innuendo. Illegal wire tap of USA citizens, outing of CIA covert operative, tampering with the American election systems to assure a Bush victory.

SWBTATTReg

(22,114 posts)
3. And not just RUMP too that ignored warnings of Russian and other agents' ...
Mon May 21, 2018, 11:08 AM
May 2018

suspicious overtures...all of RUMP's people seemed to ignore everything going on around them or they all experienced a mass hallucination that no Russians were around, or actually brought the Russians in by invitation, a more likely scenario. A bunch of idiots all around RUMP, which makes sense, since RUMP can't stand anyone else being smarter than he is. Too bad, RUMP is about to be 'schooled' repeatedly and harshly by history, the American people standing for decency in governing, and all of the diseases that RUMP picked up in fooling around.

Disgusting.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
5. I don't think most of the people around Trump ignored the warnings
Mon May 21, 2018, 11:25 AM
May 2018

they were already in on it, so probably took steps to cover their collusion tracks.

Trump himself, as I stated below, may have tuned out the briefing because it didn't contain lots of colorful pictures and every sentence wasn't "A noun, a verb and Trump"

(Not saying Trump wasn't in on the deal, but that he tuned it out)

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
4. Let me guess
Mon May 21, 2018, 11:23 AM
May 2018

the briefing did not contain a lot of colorful pictures and every sentence wasn't "a noun, a verb and Trump," so Trump himself tuned it out.

global1

(25,242 posts)
7. Need To Tell Trump What They Told Us When The American People Felt Surveiled....
Mon May 21, 2018, 11:33 AM
May 2018

you have nothing to worry about if you didn't do anything and are innocent.

Making a big deal about this so-called imbedded informant just makes them look all the more guilty.

D_Master81

(1,822 posts)
9. Discredit the source
Mon May 21, 2018, 12:29 PM
May 2018

Classic move by a defense attorney representing a guilty client. Create doubt about the source of evidence against the defendant. Hey it worked for OJ

sandensea

(21,627 posts)
14. What lowlifes.
Mon May 21, 2018, 12:48 PM
May 2018

I never dreamed I'd live to see the day we'd basically have a white Idi Amin as president. 2020 can't get here fast enough.

aggiesal

(8,914 posts)
12. But we already know that IQ45 doesn't like lengthy briefings ...
Mon May 21, 2018, 12:36 PM
May 2018

He probably left the room, and let his aides listen to the complete briefing.
In fact, he'll probably use this as an excuse as to why he didn't already know!

PatSeg

(47,419 posts)
16. People who politicize everything
Mon May 21, 2018, 12:54 PM
May 2018

are quick to accuse others of doing so. This has become Trump's default position whenever he is confronted with his own corruption and possible criminality. If he HAD shot a person on Fifth Ave, he would accuse his opponents of "politicizing" it, if they brought it.

Trump knew what the FBI was investigating, yet he was too stupid and arrogant to think they could or would expose him. He only saw the FBI in terms of how they could serve him and defeat his enemies. When they refused to do his bidding, they then became his enemies.

cilla4progress

(24,728 posts)
18. Great storyline
Mon May 21, 2018, 01:01 PM
May 2018

Seth Abrahamson promoting on twitter this morning.

Puts a total lie to trumps delusion and narrative.

thomasafine

(8 posts)
20. Translations suggest that Russians were in contact with Trump around this time.
Mon May 21, 2018, 01:51 PM
May 2018

An article (I just published on Medium) that's based on translated text messages from the Senate Judiciary document release strongly suggests that Russians were in regular contact with the Trump team at this point, and moreover had an expectation of contact.

https://medium.com/@thomasafine/russian-expectations-829d5f31f694

The article also suggests that there was a planned meeting between Trump and Aras Agalarov around this time, and includes a few other strong hints of a quid pro quo.

Mc Mike

(9,114 posts)
22. He was actually warned about Flynn infiltrating us for Russia, too.
Tue May 22, 2018, 09:04 AM
May 2018

There aren't a lot of dots to connect, here. It just is made to SEEM complex by corporate media coverage.

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