What Are We Not Being Told?......

[global1]

How is it that Trump gets to do whatever he wants - even if it is illegal, unconstitutional, non-traditional, etc - and they let him get away with it? From the smallest things like being able to keep his phone that is not protected from possible hacking to what happened yesterday with the DOJ.

Why does the MSM keep giving him a pass? They let him and his people continiually lie to us the American People and they don't call the lies on the spot.

Is this guy really that powerful? Does he have kompomat on everyone and just blackmails them? Or is he that volatile that they are worried that if they challenge him on things that he'll just press the Red Button?

I just don't get it. No other president Repug or Dem would be allowed to get away with the crap that they let Trump get away with. What is going on? What are we not being told?

[Exotica]

1. "No other president Repug or Dem would be allowed to get away with the crap that they let Trump get

away with"

They will after Trump, unless he is removed and punished.

[Dustlawyer]

23. Republican Donors have told Republicans to leave Trump alone.

Our so called “Representatives” represent the Donors that keep them in office, in power. They will not impeach Trump as long as the Donors do not want them to. The hypocrisy has reached epic proportions, even for Washington!

[Crutchez_CuiBono]

28. And Media Mogul Owners

set the tone, agenda and dialog. And dt gets his orders from fn everyday in bites he can understand.
"nonsense and greed....sprinkled w a girl who looks like your daughter. (To subliminally make him WANT what they're giving...?)

[blueinredohio]

2. Why can't we recall presidents like we do governors?

[DetroitLegalBeagle]

12. The Constitution

Recalls are state level only. It doesnt exist at the Federal level. No mechanism exists in the Constitution for it. It would require an amendment.

[Nasruddin]

26. The elephant in the room

The consitution.

We should, as a community, come up with plans for how to
fix this dangerously inadequate document. There has been a lot
of experience with democratic and representative government since
it was written, and a lot of technological and social change too.

Everyone is very afraid of thinking about constitutional change,
apparently because they are afraid of what some other side will
bring to the table. What if that happens anyway? Better to
have your own plan.

[Crutchez_CuiBono]

30. How about a global model maybe

one that a WORLD of peoples can contribute to, and use that as a starting point for a new American Constituional Congress and Second Bill of Amendments? Bc we don't have enough time to do anything for ourselves......too much trum tv and daily outrage.

[SergeStorms]

42. Oh boy.....

now that would get the fundies going! That would fit right into their paranoiac "new world order" scenario, along with the "great beast" and all of that garbage.

Don't even go there! As fucked up as things are right now, if we got the fundamentalist wackos more involved the world would spin off it's axis very quickly. Mushroom clouds would be the order of the day.

[Crutchez_CuiBono]

44. What's your answer for today?

Fundies are always upset. At some point they're going to be reigned in, and when the votes re counted honestly, we overwhelm them. It'll be our choice then. If we continue to not act, bc of a perceived reaction by a third (or less) of the nation, we will continue to fail.

[SergeStorms]

48. If you want to take them on....

in today's political environment, be my guest. I prefer to choose the time and place of my battles, and Trump Amerikkka is neither the time, or the place.

[exboyfil]

27. After this we may conclude that the British Parliamentary procedure is superior

The books written about this era will swamp those of Watergate.

10-20 years down the line we will be saying "Never Again" assuming we are still here or we live in a country that will allow us to express that sentiment.

[Laffy Kat]

3. Truly. You keep hearing, "If Obama had done that...." and eff YES.

Seems like there's no violation worse enough to nail repugs., and none too slight enough to ignore for Democrats. Really sick of this shit.

[dalton99a]

14. Republicans have always gotten away with murder, but if a Democrat is caught jaywalking

it's treated like murder

[PatSeg]

18. That is true

And now Trump has taken that to a whole new level, removing any doubt that republicans are judged by a whole different set of rules.

[olegramps]

24. The reason is that they have major control of the press and radio airwaves.

[Orsino]

4. The party was already paralyzed by Big Dollars before Trump ran for office.

Unfortunately, this paralysis made them sitting ducks for a "billionaire" candidate without a filter, and he easily defeated the rest of that bloodless pack.

Now he's letting them loot the Treasury and gut the safety net, so even if they wanted to stop him, their paymasters wouldn't let them.

[heaven05]

10. +++ nt

[handmade34]

5. "What are we not being told?"

excellent question... whatever it is, we must figure it out soon or ?????????

[Mr. Ected]

6. Whatever it is, believe me, if a future Democratic President is elected and tries to pull this shit

Even if the Dems also had a majority in Congress, the media would NOT let it pass.

The media is totally complicit. Why aren't they calling out FOX for the propaganda and lies that they perpetuate, and the real news they refuse to air?

We're amidst a government takeover, a bunch of fascists masquerading as Republicans. As vile as Republicans have always been, this new iteration doesn't even attempt to abide the Constitution.

I've never been more afraid in my life.

[gademocrat7]

7. Very good question

The MSM need to call him out on his lies. He is an evil bully who has never been held accountable for his actions.

[dajoki]

15. The media were complicit in his campaign...

with all the free coverage he got and not calling him out an his many lies.

[lancelyons]

8. Because his voters said so.

His voters are giving him the OK to do this. They are being told there is a nasty evil disease in Liberals that have to be stopped. They are told liberals are the cause of the worlds problems and must be eliminated or suppressed. They believe its an all out attack by Liberals on Religion and Christian values. They will do whatever it takes to remove what they believe is the root of our problems... Liberals.

Of course they are programmed and delusional. However they voted and he won and now they say he can do this and so he does.

YOU WANT TO CHANGE THIS... VOTE... Get your friends to VOTE, your mom and dad needs to VOTE..that is the only way to change this and then prosecute these people to the full extent of the law.

[exboyfil]

29. I don't want my mom voting

Two weeks of her ranting about the n---s and listening to Fox/Trump network while I was on vacation.

I know that the 2016 vote was the most important in my life, and I would have crawled over glass to vote for Clinton. I am afraid the future is already lost. I regularly have discussions with my nurse daughter about possibly moving to another country.

[dlk]

9. We Have Become a Corporate Autocracy & Corporations Are in Charge, Not the Rule of Law

Frightening as it seems, this is where we, as a country, are.

[heaven05]

11. yep

Corporate fascist and bankers are running this country now, openly.

[jambo101]

13. start here

[link:https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2018/05/14/is-capitalism-a-threat-to-democracy?mbid=social_facebook_aud_dev_kw_paid-is-capitalism-a-threat-to-democracy&kwp_0=803699|

[Liberalagogo]

16. IOKIYAR

'nuff said.

[Pobeka]

17. Ryan and McConnell are on the Russian dole too.

Their actions, or, rather inaction clearly demonstrates that. They are on Putin's team too.

Now you've been told.

[uponit7771]

19. THIS !!!!

[moonseller66]

20. Who IS on first?

If ANYONE thinks trump is the one behind ANY of these executive orders, they are truly imbecilic. HE just isn't intelligent enough to do one tenth of what he's done by himself.

I'd imagine when candidate trump got the support of the kochs and mercers, he told them he'd do anything they wanted if only he could wipe Obama's legacy out.

Not sure what the score is or how many of Obama's positions have been revoked, but there can't be too many left. I guess his usefulness to the overlords will then be gone.

And once all immigrants and illegals are gone and all seniors are dead and buried, then it'll be ok to bring in "those people" to do the menial tasks for the privileged few who can't do without someone to wipe their own asses.

[exboyfil]

31. That is worst case scenario

If the GOP figures out a way to transition to Pence while keeping the Trump base loyal. Pence would be more effective in executing this agenda.

[world wide wally]

21. I was wondering if it was time for Mueller to have a heart to heart talk with Ryan and McConnell

and explained n to them that he will go after them too if they keep protecting the Don.

[Nitram]

37. world wide, that's not how it works.

Mueller cannot share anything with anybody until he's ready to make an official report. and he most certainly can't jeopardize the entire investigation by "having a talk with Ryan and McConnell." I think you've been watching too much TV.

[world wide wally]

40. Fear can be a great motivator.

When he says that he can have their ass in a sling you might be surprised.
I certainly wasn't talking about appealing to their patriotism or human decency.

[Nitram]

41. Threatening the Speaker of the House and the Senate Majority Leader is illegal.

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It would totally compromise the investigation into Trump. Your approach just like Trump's. That's not the way a democracy works. That's the way organized crime works.

[world wide wally]

45. Have you ever run into a brick wall?

[Nitram]

47. Mueller and his team have not run into a brick wall. Far from it. They have already made

rapid progress, including indictments and convictions. Compared to other investigations of presidential wring-doing, this one has been incredibly efficient and fast-paced.

[elmac]

22. tRump's fascist party is in complete control of the House, Senate & the Supreme Court

also, all the corporate networks tow the fascist line, that is where the money is, the entire financial institutions are on his side, the vast majority of states are controlled by fascists, 2/3rds of the military, probably more police have his back. Yes, he IS above the law.

[unblock]

25. washington post is calling him out today for hypocrisy - hillary emails vs donnie cell phone

Trump warned of ‘great danger’ posed by Clinton’s emails. Naturally, he rejects security procedures for his own phone.

Basically nothing was sacred to Donald Trump during the 2016 presidential campaign, except Hillary Clinton's email account. This was the one thing he insisted needed to be handled by the book. And in Trump's telling, Clinton's choice to use a private email server while she was secretary of state had grave consequences. At one point, Trump said he was “sure” that China had hacked her server and that the whole thing was “putting all of America and our citizens in danger, great danger.”

You'd think a guy who felt so strongly about that would go above and beyond to protect his personal communications once he became president. But apparently you'd be wrong.

Politico is reporting that Trump has eschewed the normal security procedures when it comes to his personal cellphones. He has at least two — one for making calls and one for Twitter — but the call-capable phone has a camera and a microphone, which was against protocol in the Obama administration because those things could be used to monitor a president's activities and movements. As for the Twitter phone, Trump reportedly has gone as many as five months without having it checked by security experts, despite phones being checked every 30 days during the Obama administration.

...

That sound you hear is 60 million Clinton supporters tearing out their hair. You may recall that this was exactly the justification Clinton used for her private server: convenience. “When I got to work as secretary of state, I opted for convenience to use my personal email account, which was allowed by the State Department, because I thought it would be easier to carry just one device for my work and for my personal emails instead of two,” she said.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2018/05/22/trump-warned-of-great-danger-posed-by-clintons-emails-but-he-eschews-security-procedures-for-his-own-phone/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.56e9580987ec

[exboyfil]

32. And why didn't the people around her say

hell no? You would think that Chelsea would have at least.

[unblock]

34. i'm not following what you're asking.

[exboyfil]

36. Clinton was wrong to mix her personal

and government emails. It was not disqualifying given who she was running against, but it was still wrong.

Maybe the GOP would have found something else, but I knew that this was an issue when 20+ years ago working as an engineer.

[unblock]

39. let's not make this an opportunity to bash hillary. the point is donnie's hypocrisy.

he wanted to "lock her up" and then does virtually the same thing she did.

[Texin]

33. "The books written about this era will swamp those of Watergate."

Historically, the "Winners" write the "history."

Clearly, this group of rethuglicans intend to win. And they are winning. Every. Single. Day. Every day, whether it's substantive or incrementally, they're winning. They have no intention of doing anything about him or his personal mob. I knew we were well and truly fucked if this group of conmen and foreign-backed thugs took office, but I just didn't realize how breathtaking the scope of all the greed, avarice, incompetence and outright corruption it would be.

Democracy is done here. We're done.

[Nitram]

35. I'll say it again. The MSM is not giving Trump a pass. How do you think you found out about all

the crap you are complaining about? The MSM is not the Justice Department or the Supreme Court. That's where this will ultimately play out. The MSM does indeed report Trump's lies as lies. Haven't you seen the lists? Meanwhile the MSM is sharing what they know as fast as they get it. This is playing out remarkably publicly except for the evidence that Mueller's team is collecting - which could not be used to convict Trump and his cronies if it was released to the public.

[exboyfil]

38. The MSM is not effective

One example is allowing Rudi to filibuster over his hypocrisy.

These are your words? How are they unfair now? Is it because Trump is a political ally? What really are your standards? Just a few questions MSM could ask.

It started for me with that SOB Matt Lauer and the so called Commander in Chief's forum. He should have had the same five questions for each candidate that exposed their knowledge or ignorance of the most important function of the President. That done with some framing of the questions could have quickly revealed who was competent to be President.

[emulatorloo]

43. Actually Rudy was "allowed" to have a childish meltdown on camera. CNN handled it perfectly

His whining infantile petulance was there for all to see.

IMHO. Of course ymmv

[cbdo2007]

46. You don't know how the MSM works???

They get an amazing story and string us all along as long as possible and build it up bigger and bigger and then only when the story reaches maximum ratings/dollars will they then turn on Trump and get the impeachment ratings/dollars, and then someone boring like Joe Biden will get voted in and they'll go through another 10 years of not making any money, until the next national tragedy happens.

What part of this were you not told??