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LuckyCharms

(17,469 posts)
Sun May 27, 2018, 11:50 AM May 2018

I cannot see how our current healthcare system is sustainable for...

another 5 to 10 years.

Year over year premium percentage increases that would cripple any other "business".

The outright denial of needed procedures, or "constructive denial" by making the patient/doctors work so hard to get approvals that they give up.

Exorbitant co-pays for tier 3 drugs.

CEO compensation.

The ONLY people the insurance companies work for are their shareholders. Remember this...when you see insurance companies calling themselves "health companies", they have ZERO interest in your health.

I do not see how this can last. These pigs seem to be so greedy that they are literally killing their consumers.

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I cannot see how our current healthcare system is sustainable for... (Original Post) LuckyCharms May 2018 OP
Don't worry. TimeSnowDemos May 2018 #1
We need Medicare for All dalton99a May 2018 #2
It's a choice between a giant bureaucracy designed to maximize profit by denying health care, brewens May 2018 #3
Tend to agree. But lots of folks have been saying the same since at least early 1990s. Hoyt May 2018 #4
Die ill, in pain, bankrupt, in the street. Just make sure Golden Raisin May 2018 #5
yes health care costs are going up and up and up scarytomcat May 2018 #6
perhaps there is a long-term goal of reducing America's population? 0rganism May 2018 #7
That's exactly what I think, too. LiberalLoner May 2018 #9
Case in point: rusty fender May 2018 #8
 

TimeSnowDemos

(476 posts)
1. Don't worry.
Sun May 27, 2018, 11:54 AM
May 2018

Like any corporate interest Healthcare isn't designed to help people in America, but to turn a profit. This isn't designed to be sustainable, it's designed to cut costs (I. E. remove Healthcare from the poor and high risk) and increase profits.

Sure, if you want Healthcare you should be born rich. What's the big deal?

dalton99a

(81,658 posts)
2. We need Medicare for All
Sun May 27, 2018, 12:01 PM
May 2018

Act like a civilized nation and get rid of for-profit health insurance and nonnegotiable drug prices

brewens

(13,640 posts)
3. It's a choice between a giant bureaucracy designed to maximize profit by denying health care,
Sun May 27, 2018, 12:06 PM
May 2018

or a giant bureaucracy designed to provide health care. It eventually has to shake out that people get health care for what they can afford to spend. It's going to have to be some form of single payer or an all not for profit system. Some combination maybe.

Anyone in the medical field should see that, especially those of us with more average Joe type medical jobs. I am actually recently retired from a blood center. A good part of my income came from blood units transfused to Medicare and Medicade patients. A huge chunk depended on people with good enough coverage and benefits at work to be able to afford to take time off and have elective procedures done.

Some of these white wingers in the medical field I know that vote republican have to be out of their minds! The may as well be casting a direct vote to shut down their own jobs.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
4. Tend to agree. But lots of folks have been saying the same since at least early 1990s.
Sun May 27, 2018, 12:09 PM
May 2018

Hillarycare was actually a good approach that we should have been pursued at time. Hasn't happened yet, and won't with current GOP Congress and prez.

Golden Raisin

(4,614 posts)
5. Die ill, in pain, bankrupt, in the street. Just make sure
Sun May 27, 2018, 12:46 PM
May 2018

you don't drop dead near any 1% or Republican gated communities or country clubs. They don't like to look at the mess or have to step over it.

scarytomcat

(1,706 posts)
6. yes health care costs are going up and up and up
Sun May 27, 2018, 01:04 PM
May 2018

nothing we do is sustainable:
farming practices
energy from oil, gas and coal
the economy
population rise
our election system

we need to take a hard look at just how we exist and make some major changes

0rganism

(23,978 posts)
7. perhaps there is a long-term goal of reducing America's population?
Sun May 27, 2018, 01:08 PM
May 2018

sometimes it really appears that way - America for the Uber Rich, everyone else get ready to kiss some wealthy employer ass.

many of the cattle seem willing to head for the killing floor of their own accord. the remainder may need extra "encouragement".

LiberalLoner

(9,762 posts)
9. That's exactly what I think, too.
Sun May 27, 2018, 05:50 PM
May 2018

They are taking measures to cull the herd and trying not to let too many of us know ahead of time...

 

rusty fender

(3,428 posts)
8. Case in point:
Sun May 27, 2018, 01:17 PM
May 2018

My brother has scheduled laparoscopic hernial repair. The hospital’s cost is $18,500 which doesn’t include the surgeon’s fee. Mind you, this is day surgery.

According to Healthcare Bluebook, the fair price of this surgery is $6,832 which does include the surgeon’s fee

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