This is some pretty insidious fuckery for a man some say is mentally ill

[bigtree]

...this is Jim Crow on steroids.

Jamil Smith @JamilSmith 4m4 minutes ago
"This is very winning, strong issue for me," @dallascowboys owner Jerry Jones said Trump told him during a phone call. "Tell everybody, you can't win this one. This one lifts me."

Several NFL owners said in depositions that President Donald Trump factored into conversations about how to handle protests during the national anthem, The Wall Street Journal reported.

While testifying as part of the Colin Kaepernick collusion case, Dallas Cowboys owner Jerry Jones said Trump spoke with him about the anthem.

"This is very winning, strong issue for me," Jones said Trump told him during a phone call. "Tell everybody, you can't win this one. This one lifts me."

The Journal also reported that Miami Dolphins owner Stephen Ross testified that New England Patriots owner Robert Kraft had also discussed the anthem with Trump.

read: http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/23650046/nfl-owners-note-donald-trump-attempt-influence-anthem-views

[Proud Liberal Dem]

1. It beggars belief

that this has become such a polarizing/divisive issue. It's almost like CK grabbed his crotch and spit before/during/after the national anthem.


Oh wait, that was Rosanne

[Corgigal]

2. Great,

Colin Kaepernick can sue Trump when he's done.

[Hortensis]

3. Every issue is about Trump to him. He has no sense of decency,

no moral consciousness, and probably no conscience. Literally. (Although apparently some people have vestigial consciences that warn them to fear consequences without actually being able to produce feelings of guilt.)

I don't think he's mentally ill, though. I think he's mentally disordered, which professionals say is different, and usually effectively untreatable and incurable.

[bigtree]

5. this certainly doesn't appear to be mental illness

...there's a great deal of premeditation to his tweeting.

All of it made to look off-the-cuff by Trump, I think, even unhinged. All the while executing a very deliberate strategy of demagoguery, working to undermine these players' careers.

[Hortensis]

6. He's spent 70 years learning what behaviors

get him the attention and other responses he wants. He needs to feed raw meat to his "red in fang and claw" base, so kick this old national anthem wedge issue. He enjoys hurting people, so ruining careers while he's at it seems right up his pleasure ally.

But never to let his real talent and skill for manipulation distract from the reality that he's severely deficient in ability to concentrate for more than a couple minutes, astonishingly ignorant and manipulable himself, very easily distracted, and living in a severely limited world of bizarre delusion where not only everything is about him, but cannot be about anything else.

Now those using his power are a different matter. While we're distracted by his daily antics, they're dismantling government.

Link to tweet

[bigtree]

8. his 'talent' is overrated

...like his teevee show, his truly awful acting is inflated by his sponsors and promoters.

In this case, republicans are his senior producers, sponsors, promoters. They run the network, right now.

[Hortensis]

10. Umhm. And their big donors own the network.

[bigtree]

11. good point

[lame54]

4. For such a "Manly" profession...

These guys turned out to be traitorous wussies

[struggle4progress]

7. I me me mine

[EffieBlack]

9. Further evidence for the First Amendment claims

The NFL decision is governmental action and, therefore, subject to a Constitutional challenge.