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To the informed (Original Post) bornfree17 Jun 2018 OP
I've been "in the rooms" HopeAgain Jun 2018 #1
Thanks bornfree17 Jun 2018 #2
I just reread bornfree17 Jun 2018 #5
Is bornfree17 Jun 2018 #9
yes HopeAgain Jun 2018 #11
I have no idea but I wish you and your son success and health. Squinch Jun 2018 #3
. NCTraveler Jun 2018 #4
John Oliver suggests carefully looking very carefully at any rehab program. Orsino Jun 2018 #6
I watched the whole video bornfree17 Jun 2018 #8
+1,673,285 That was shocking. And then he followed up with a show detailing guardianship scams. TheBlackAdder Jun 2018 #10
It's not a solution. It's a short term bridge to hopefully get to one Lee-Lee Jun 2018 #7

HopeAgain

(4,407 posts)
1. I've been "in the rooms"
Fri Jun 8, 2018, 06:32 AM
Jun 2018

for years and, to be honest, have not seen good long term results. They are still addicted, just to a different substance. Eventually I see them use an illicit drug again. My son is a heroin addict and has almost a year clean after spending 90 days in a Mission similar to Salvation Army.

Replacement therapy such as methadone and Subutex are best if only used short-term for a transition, IMHO.

 

bornfree17

(89 posts)
2. Thanks
Fri Jun 8, 2018, 06:52 AM
Jun 2018

Not what I wanted to hear sadly
I guess there is no miracle drug to help them. So sorry to hear it hit your son too

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
6. John Oliver suggests carefully looking very carefully at any rehab program.
Fri Jun 8, 2018, 07:54 AM
Jun 2018
https://slate.com/culture/2018/05/john-oliver-on-the-rehab-industry-and-addiction-treatments-like-equine-therapy-video.html

I hope it's not too depressing a segment, and that it can be of some help. Best wishes for you and your son.
 

Lee-Lee

(6,324 posts)
7. It's not a solution. It's a short term bridge to hopefully get to one
Fri Jun 8, 2018, 08:03 AM
Jun 2018

My experience is that the only real solution is a strong in-patient treatment program followed by a good post-treatment support system like NA.

The replacements mean the person is still addicted. They are good for getting away from the worse stuff while waiting for the in-patient program. But what I see if that people who just get on those programs and don’t do anything else will eventually slip back to other drugs. Because they are still addicted, and still will need to feed that addiction. That day he can’t make it to the clinic on time or is having a rough day and wants more the backsliding starts.

I will say that one of the HUGE aspects I have seen in recovery is getting the person away from the city/town/area they were in. They need to get away from the people who they ran with while in that lifestyle and away from their known sources of drugs. Because those people will drag them back into the lifestyle and being close to them makes it easier to find the stuff if he backslides. If you can help him restart in a new city or town after treatment and get him into NA right away in that new city then he won’t have the bad crowd near and the only people he will know right away will be the NA sponsor and the people he introduces him to. That will be a HUGE positive in his ability to sustain his recovery.

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