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Remember, the best defense is a hellova offense, and catching your opponent coming into your strength always results in that man being hurt.
Rubin Hurricane Carter; Thursday, September 27, 1973; 3:35 pm
There is a showdown coming in America. The main event features Robert Mueller versus Donald Trump, of course, in a battle that represents a much larger conflict raging within our country. As the tension builds, we see Trump engaging in an increasingly out of control attack on Mr. Mueller, which reminds me of the above line from one of Rubin's letters advising me on boxing strategy 45 years ago.
The majority of the crowd gathered for the fight favor Mr. Mueller. They see Trump as more than just an obnoxious blowhard: they recognize him as a toxic threat to our constitutional democracy. They see a cheap, dirty fighter willing to break any rule who is as controlled by the mob as in boxer was in history. Only this time, it's the Russian mafia calling the shots.
They have seen that many officials with the republicans in the House and Senate serving in roles similar to a boxing commission and referee are unwilling to enforce the rules. Instead, they reward him for his flagrant fouls. In this case, though, it has to do with the Rule of Law, and their failure to address Trump for his openly corrupt behaviors.
Thus, unless Trump's corner throws in the towel, saying their guy has had enough, and has lost this fight by TKO, the majority of Americans have to hope that the judges in this instance, federal court judges render a just decision in favor of Mr. Mueller.
There is also, of course, a minority of Trump fans watching the bout. They view Trump as a hero, and their champion. They would prefer that the fight be called off before it actually starts, and Trump be declared the winner. Being unfamiliar with the rules, they support any dirty tactic Trump resorts to, and every crime he commits. They threaten the commissioner and referee for even considering enforcing the Rule of Law, in terms of their next primary. Republicans court and fear these unstable fans.
Despite the fact that the outcome of the fight will likely go to the scorecards of the judges most of whom were appointed by the republican commission the Trump fans are not going to accept it, if their decision goes against Trump. In their minds, the federal courts will be viewed as part of the deep state. It's a plot, don't you know.
Trump's fans do not allow facts to interfere with their perceptions. And it is a fact that Trump has not been wildly successful in the court system, be it with his university or his Muslim travel ban. He will face far more significant and humiliating defeats when the judges announce their decisions in the Trump vs Team Mueller competition.
Now, I'm familiar with more than boxing. In the past decade, for example, I've witnessed a stark increase in fans acting out sometimes violently at a variety of school sports competitions. The two things that have led to the majority of violent outbreaks have been when one of their players gets called for a foul, or when a non-white athlete on the opposing team scores points. These have resulted in fights in the stands, and in parking lots. There have been men and women taken away in handcuffs. There was even what law enforcement has called a riot, in a small town where local police had to call for back-up from county and state police.
Not all republicans will be upset when Trump loses his attempts to avoid speaking with Team Mueller. It appears likely that he'll continue to avoid doing so, and will thus get an invitation from the grand jury. His legal team will try fighting that, and lose. It's possible Trump will still refuse. But, either way, he won't survive long. And, at that point, fewer republicans will support him.
Those who will still support him are largely of the same stock as those who start fights at high school sports or boxing matches. Their actions are rooted in emotions, as opposed to the intelligence required to engage in rational thought. In the deep recesses of their minds, they will view the Rule of Law as a threat to the Constitution and Old Glory. This is largely due to their never reading more than the Second Amendment, and mistaking a piece of cloth for the concepts it symbolizes. In Freudian terms, they are the American Id.
Expecting these sad people to behave beyond impulse would be like expecting your dog to meow, or your cat to bark, or Trump to be honest. It's not in their nature. Yet they remain a minority. There are more of us, than there are of them. Some are at the Ego level, and others represent the Super Ego. Thus, it's a matter of combining those two forces, and not just come November. We need to be more than silent spectators of this fight. And that requires the best efforts of every individual.
Peace,
H2O Man
Trump is moving into Mr. Mueller's range of power now. I think that he is going to be sorely surprised in the upcoming weeks.
Me.
(35,454 posts)Please God let it be so
malaise
(274,655 posts)Making sport versus the real thing.
The sport that I'm most familiar with is boxing. I think it serves as an interesting sociological model in terms of groups, and psychological model per individuals. It's curious that a coward like Trump used to promote boxing in Atlantic City, along with his twin parasite, Don King.
malaise
(274,655 posts)They were and are only interested in exploiting boxers for profit.
On the other hand, the morons who fight at boxing events (not the boxers) are idiots who are making sport - a Caribbean phrase for imitating/ making) as if they are in the league of those who trained for years.
spanone
(137,117 posts)K&R...
H2O Man
(74,696 posts)yonder
(9,861 posts)Much appreciated!
dhill926
(16,718 posts)H2O Man
(74,696 posts)lunatica
(53,410 posts)is because their mental abilities are weaker than their emotional passions. They live immersed in the tsunamis of their emotions which simply overtake and drown the small island of their rational ability to think. One must use thought to override their roiling passions. Expecting them to change the inbalance of their mental and emotional natures so they can think their way through life is to expect the impossible. They must consciously choose to do so even to attempt it. Unfortunately strong emotional passion, especially hatred and rage is addictive and as every former addict knows choosing the cold light of reason doesnt feed or soothe the gnawing craving.
They are captives of the reptilian portion of their brain. At this point in time, it would be a waste of valuable time to try to engage in a rational discussion with them. Rather, we should focus our efforts on preparations for the November elections.
coeur_de_lion
(3,758 posts)but it makes me so sad that some of my relatives are reptiles!
God. How will we ever survive this as a country? We're like a giant dysfunctional family.
Tell me H, how will we ever reconcile? Are we doomed to live out the Civil War over and over?
I have been really sad and anxious about this all week. As you know.
H2O Man
(74,696 posts)Being that you are from a large extended Irish family, we can start by saying your relatives that are right-wing aren't all reptilian. We could safely identify them as Amphibia of the Urodela order. (I have several crawling about my family tree, as well.) I hope this valuable and insightful information helps you to accept them for that which they are. It's not their fault.
We will survive by putting forth our best efforts. It really is that simple -- and exactly that frustrating, as we are all sad and weakly human. All of us.
How to reconcile is a bit more difficult. We may find that is putting the bar a bit too high. Just as in extended families, there are people we might be best avoiding in anything beyond the most surface of polite conversation -- or, perhaps avoid interacting with at all -- there are people who live in our communities that we will never like, agree with, or reconcile with. That, too, is part of the human experience. Yet, we can have the Rule of Law, which to paraphrase Martin Luther King, may not induce someone to like us, but can prevent them from inflicting damage upon us.
Me.
(35,454 posts)what's going to happen is what is predicted, they are dying out and the new seeds are pushing through the ground
coeur_de_lion
(3,758 posts)Good to see you!
kentuck
(112,186 posts)And Mueller is starting to look for the knockout punch. He might win on the scorecards but it is never a sure thing. He feels like he needs a knockout. We may be closer than people think?
I think that Mr. Mueller is digging in some body shots. Not all fans understand what these do. They aren't as flashy as a punch to the head. But, based upon personal experience, I can say they do greater harm, for by their very nature, a body punch inflicts temporary organ damage that often determines the outcome of a fight.
I had been under the impression that things would be further along than they appear to be. Yet I appreciate that the only reason they are not, is because Team Mueller is uncovering more information than I anticipated. These are the body shots that are landing on fellows like Manafort, and in the SDNY investigation of Cohen, etc.
Thus, I expect that things will appear to be staying on course for a bit, before the shit hits the fan(s) -- with all of it landing in the Trump section.
Strange days!
eleny
(46,166 posts)But I'm encouraged by the recent results and by the numbers who voted. So our resolve has to grow stronger as November approaches. In other words, shoot for the moon. Anything less will put us behind.
It's so nice to see a post from you. Hope you're doing much better.
The big money is indeed a significant issue. You are absolutely right about that. What I find encouraging is that, over the years, several good Democrats -- starting with Howard Dean -- showed that smaller, grass roots donations, can do battle with the corporate beast. And I've seen outstanding candidates, such as Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez in NYS's 14th District, accessing that power.
(My doctors tell me to be patient with myself, which isn't particularly easy most of the time. But I think that both balance and memory are improving. The issues with memory are most frustrating. But I'm rather happy to be alive! My youngest daughter is always helping me out, and days like yesterday, working in our garden, I realize that I am mighty lucky.)
Uncle Joe
(59,570 posts)Thanks for the thread H2O Man
H2O Man
(74,696 posts)I think Trump's presidency ranks as "the worst of times." I'm confident that Mr. Mueller will deliver "the best of times," by taking that shithead out.
Uncle Joe
(59,570 posts)reminds me of Ali in Manilla.
Trump keeps throwing crude but powerful political punch after political punch with his demagogic tweets and pronouncements.
Mueller; as a true professional should maintains his silence absorbing the public blows while relying on the ropes of faith and integrity to let his legal works do the talking.
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Special counsel Robert Mueller on Friday filed a new, superseding indictment against former Trump campaign chief Paul Manafort that also charged Russian citizen Konstantin Kilimnik.
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https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=2078994
Peace to you H2O Man
voteearlyvoteoften
(1,716 posts)H2O Man
(74,696 posts)saidsimplesimon
(7,888 posts)I hung on every word, actually thought you might be a professional journalist.
I will forward this to everyone I know, completely agree with everything you said. Bravo