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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIt's all a flim-flam. We are being played.
Trump shows up with no physicists or scientists of any kind. No sanctions experts. No Korea diplomatic experts. No secretary to official notes. We're supposed to just trust them. It's just a photo op for Trump, where he will claim tremendous success. They will declare it a great accomplishment and peace is near. Great progress is being made. blah blah blah But there will be no details. No timeline. Just a con man's bullshit flim-flam.
I feel disgusted with it. Really sorry I tuned in to watch it.
Freethinker65
(10,048 posts)drray23
(7,637 posts)And the deplorable will lap it it up. Probably a few pundits as well. Disgusting.
triron
(22,020 posts)Did he really? This is such fucking bullshit. If Robinson is buying the Con's shit, it's another sad day for whatever country we have left.
TeamPooka
(24,254 posts)JoeOtterbein
(7,702 posts)breaking down in tears on CNN.
progressoid
(49,999 posts)Sponsored by Potcoin.com
jalan48
(13,883 posts)Crutchez_CuiBono
(7,725 posts)smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)I can't believe this shit.
Crutchez_CuiBono
(7,725 posts)His big reply. Meanwhile, "Now, I'm going golfing for a few months and I'm billing it to YOU GUYS."
dawnie51
(959 posts)Dump no doubt has a woody right this minute, on every channel, endless camera time, world wide. Nothing will be said, or done, and he will bask in the glory of being himself, which is nirvana for a narcissist like him.
LuckyLib
(6,819 posts)Its all a giant Reality Show.
Golden Raisin
(4,613 posts)important and significant moment in world history.
nini
(16,672 posts)He has done nothing but theatrics.
Beartracks
(12,821 posts)lancelyons
(988 posts)Yeah I am guessing he was working a deal to put in a trump tower and a burger joint.
Perhaps Trump asked for some hacking help in the mid terms.
If he says we will pull all our troops out of the region, we will have lost and betrayed our allies.
If we have peace announced then thats a win for the NK since peace in the region undermines the reason US is in South Korea.
Enoki33
(1,587 posts)to any of the absurdity, vileness and absolute ignorance spewing from tRumps foul mouth. He does not exist beyond what news, and other information l choose to read. That is how l will retain a sense of reality while working for a better tomorrow. And yes, it really is a flim - flam.
If you want to know the truth it is necessary to avoid listening to Trump. Hes the master spinner on steroids. Listening to him leads to one of two places. You either believe his shit like the deplorables or you get violently ill.
Its time to get serious and know the truth. Anything else is only a distraction. Outrage doesnt cut it anymore.
woundedkarma
(498 posts)lunatica
(53,410 posts)kimbutgar
(21,188 posts)Everyday PT Barnum twitler has to distract the ignorant masses to keep them energized in their support of him.
BlueTsunami2018
(3,503 posts)Even many of my liberal friends are saying things like I hate Тяцмр but you have to give it up for him here.
I dont want to say it but I sure am thinking it.
vlyons
(10,252 posts)Show me the results. Show me the written and signed agreement. There isn't any. It's bullshit.
keithbvadu2
(36,906 posts)Would Kim be able to trust Dotard by giving up his only bargaining chips, his nukes, after seeing how honorable Donald is in keeping his word?
With Bolton expressing his preference for a Libya solution, where the leader of Libya was killed.
KY_EnviroGuy
(14,494 posts)Loaded up-front with lies, flim-flam and deception for the show. Give it ten years, then we'll discuss end results. Of course by then, this reality show will have been long ago canceled.
BlueTsunami2018
(3,503 posts)Youre plugged in, most people arent. Which is how we ended up here in the first place.
7962
(11,841 posts)So lets see if this is different. I doubt it
Juliusseizure
(562 posts)Do we not recognize that Trump is full of shit and loyal only to those who pay him off (Russia/China/oligarchs).
The only thing Trump appears to have done is deter outright NK aggression by appearing willing to bomb the whole region into oblivion. That was a bluff. The NK aggression was a bluff too.
This is what bullies do. They instill fear to control the other and test reaction.
North Korean dictator appears to have backed off. In fact, hes just strategizing with China, and maybe even Russia, playing peacemaker.
I fully expect China and/or Russia to have some arrangement with Trump thats money related. Weve already seen Trump try to get that Chinese telecom company thats a spy network into the US. He trolled G7 for Putin. Trump is playing along. He wont get anything resembling a peace deal,but hell play it up as a grand accomplishment.
The US may be doomed because too many people are infantile, vapid and shallow, havent learned from history, immersed in commercialized simple answers created to satisfy dopamine receptors, eat up Trumps marketing ability, lack a moral foundation, lack the effort to think in depth or comprehend long term consequences.
Ccarmona
(1,180 posts)A mayonnaise & ketchup sandwich has more substance than this charade.
NK is legitimatized and Trump gets Bupkus but his string puller is very happy in Moscow.
FakeNoose
(32,748 posts)... but we DUers saw through this from the get-go.
I really wish the intelligent people at MSNBC weren't playing it up like the pikers at Faux News are.
I know they know better.
Hamlette
(15,412 posts)Trump's base and Fox news will agree, he brought peace to the Korean peninsula, ended a 70 year old war, etc.
it will be unbearable.
TryLogic
(1,723 posts)And, he is making "great progress," so he/Trump "must not be impeached" as that would ruin such a "great opportunity" to work out a deal with N Korea. The con man is playing us.
Kablooie
(18,641 posts)And votes for Republicans will increase.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)BobTheSubgenius
(11,564 posts)My worry was that it would turn out to be very acrimonious, end up with one or both storming away from the table and making things worse than they've been in decades.
Compounding that "worse" would be the WH crowing about T
ough guy Cred.
renate
(13,776 posts)I suspect Trump is going to get played, with his profound lack of preparation and absolute lack of knowledge, but I hope it all goes well. I certainly don't want them to get into a pissing match.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)I bet Putin, Dump and rocket man set it all up weeks ago.
Trump stabs the western alliance in the back at G7 then pulls this BS con with NK a day later.
Whatever Trump does it ALWAYS benefits Putin and mother Russia!
IthinkThereforeIAM
(3,077 posts)... when two liars meet, which liar do we believe in the morning?
He was speaking of that as his time slot began.
world wide wally
(21,754 posts)GoCubsGo
(32,093 posts)Spanky stages a production, claiming some sort of phony achievement.
The cult cheers, the media fawns over him, many on the left wring their hands and gnash their teeth.
Those of us who have been paying attention for the past 30 years sit back and wait for the rest to realize that the whole thing was nothing but a stage production that only made things worse for this country. (Well, except for the cult. They'll never figure it out.)
Lather, rinse, repeat.
Same shit. Different day.
Efilroft Sul
(3,581 posts)I hope somebody litters on the street and makes it look like one of the three did it.
ooky
(8,929 posts)I'm just wondering how much Kim will scam him for while he hides all his stuff.
moondust
(20,006 posts)About what? A photo op?
StarzGuy
(254 posts)would make a no deal, deal and call it a success. It's a complete fraud and no one in their right mind should accept this as anything else.
The US is in deep doo-doo.
The lame media also gets a huuuuge chunk of the blame for sucking up to this tool and refuse to do any of their own investigation. Damn it.
What will it take to remove this MF from office? It is going to damage the station of the US in the world.
God help us all....
And I am an atheist!
TNLib
(1,819 posts)I can't see how pulling our military out of SK, with nothing in return is going to play well with the military or former military. But it's starting to feel like Bizzaro world where our Nato Allies are US enemies and Russian, China and NK are now US allies.
This shit is moving fast. We are living in scary times.
Soxfan58
(3,479 posts)But its not over yet!
BadGimp
(4,018 posts)#PutinWinsAgain
Orsino
(37,428 posts)The only people this will fool are those with an interest in being fooled. Unfortunately, there are still plenty of them.
Raster
(20,998 posts)...just like everything else tRump*.
LenaBaby61
(6,977 posts)Is actually holding out hope, and wants to "see" what happens moving foreword between tRump & Kim Jong-Un. Wants to see what's in the details of the agreement fatso 1 & fatso 2 signed 🙄
PJ. Crowley, who I'd have though would have had a more discerning eye, wants to also give tRump the benefit of the doubt, because he feels that amongst other things, tRump MIGHT be getting Kim Jong-un comfortable enough before a world stage, which might possibly make him give up something (his nukes) Wait, isn't Kim Jong-un the same guy who amongst other things murdered his half-brother and who fed his uncle to a pack of hungry dogs? Yep, that sounds like a guy that can be reasoned with (Are they forgetting about the Human Rights abuses going on over there --->?).
tRump is an evil, rotten, insane, racist, sexually-abusive, treasonous mad dog with NO brain whose only is in "it" for himself so that he and his family/friends can make money. tRump is OWNED by putin, and these so-called experts on Ari's show are actually thinking that this situation between tRumputin and Kim Jong-un is REAL.
2 of the 3 persons on Ari's panel worked in the Obama administration, and I'd have thought that they would have known what type of thing tRump is, yet they want to give tRump the benefit of the doubt after seeing that Fat Dog & Fat Pony show yesterday, where tRump got almost NOTHING.
Rich Galen, the 3rd member of Ari's panel Said that while what tRump did in going to meet Kim Jong-un may be first step, one has to know that tRump can turn on anybody on a DIME IE: You trust that guy? Galen worked for Dan Quayle, yet he spoke with the most sense of the 3 foreign policy experts on Ari's panel about tRumputin/Kim Jong-un.
DetroitLegalBeagle
(1,926 posts)They are gonna milk this for all its worth. Use it draw attention away from things in the summer, then around September/October, right before the Midterms, I guarantee they will try to swing a big high profile treaty signing, maybe the official end of the Korean War, or some vague nuclear deal thats easily ignored, or something like they hand over the USS Pueblo to us. Something big and flashy right before the midterms, to try to stave off losses. The sad thing, MSM will eat it and the public will probably buy it.
KPN
(15,650 posts)designed and carried out specifically to distract from and fuel political opposition to the Russia collusion investigation.
KrazyinKS
(291 posts)At first he calls him little rocket man, pushes him around scaring people into thinking there will be a war and now he is making peace so he can look good. It does look scripted, I mean really!