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The Hawaii State Teachers Association on Tuesday endorsed U.S. Rep. Tulsi Gabbard challenger Sherry Alu Campagna in the 2018 Democratic primary race, a turnaround from two years ago in which the teachers union backed the incumbent Hawaii congresswoman.
In a news conference, HSTA President Corey Rosenlee said Gabbard has not defended human and civil rights during her time in Congress, criticizing her failure to condemn Syrian leader Bashar al-Assad for chemical attacks on his people and her visit with al-Assad.
HSTA strongly believes in high quality schools for all children as well as human and civil rights, Rosenlee said. We believe that Sherry Campagna will fight for the equality for all people.
Rosenlee said the HSTAs endorsement of Campagna an environmental scientist and small business owner from Kaneohe who is a first-time political candidate was not just an anti-Tulsi vote. He noted Campagnas support for a constitutional amendment to tax residential investment property to fund public education, lowering class sizes and increasing teacher pay.
http://www.civilbeat.org/2018/05/hawaii-teachers-union-backs-gabbard-opponent-for-congress/
msongs
(67,420 posts)rogue emissary
(3,148 posts)I really like it's logal layout. Also, I don't see many campaign sites that list all the important dates like registration, early voting etc.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)Tarheel_Dem
(31,235 posts)thinks it will save her political career, I can see her switching parties.
RandySF
(58,935 posts)Cha
(297,323 posts)Last edited Thu Jun 14, 2018, 04:32 AM - Edit history (1)
this news that the Hawaii Teacher's Union is endorsing Sherry Campagna
Tarheel
Tarheel_Dem
(31,235 posts)her constituents are really paying attention this time.
Cha
(297,323 posts)Teacher's Union should go long way in opening People's eyes. And her opponent, Sherry Campagna is force to be reckoned with.. even though she has never been in politics.
When I see Gabbard signs around here I cover one eye so I don't have to see it.. that's how much I don't like her.
Tarheel_Dem
(31,235 posts)Cha
(297,323 posts)I disliked her long before her supporting Assad. As you may well know she used to go on FOXSucks and whine about President Obama.
I contacted the emails from her and said I didn't want to receive them anymore.. because of exactly that.
Tarheel_Dem
(31,235 posts)Cha
(297,323 posts)what you mean.
George II
(67,782 posts)Tarheel_Dem
(31,235 posts)ehrnst
(32,640 posts)It will be interesting to see if Our Revolution will continue to endorse her opposing a Democrat if she does.
comradebillyboy
(10,155 posts)ehrnst
(32,640 posts)Jim Lane
(11,175 posts)comradebillyboy
(10,155 posts)Jim Lane
(11,175 posts)In terms of opinion on DU, and particularly in terms of subjects that DU posters frequently address, what distinguishes Tulsi Gabbard from almost every other Democratic incumbent?
Here's a hint: It concerns someone who gets a lot more attention on DU than does Assad.
RandySF
(58,935 posts)But Putin, critizing Obama for denying a visa to an Indian figure tied to human rights violations and her picketing against gay rights a number of years ago. Oh yeah, bashing Hillary on Fox News during the general election. A deep blue district likes hers can do much better.
brush
(53,792 posts)Tarheel_Dem
(31,235 posts)switch. She's ambitious, and there's nothing wrong with that, but her ambition shouldn't come at the cost of her constituents.
Cha
(297,323 posts)Hawaii's Teacher's Union backs gabbard .. till I finished reading!
She's who I support!
Good I've glad they know about this news..
snip// From your link.. the whole article should be read!
Harsh Criticism For Gabbard
She was one of just three representatives, and the only Democrat who refused to condemn Syrian dictator Bashar al-Assads genocidal chemical attack on his own people. After the attack, Gabbard traveled to Syria to meet with the genocidal dictator al-Assad without permission from the White House or Congress. Her trip was funded by a group with ties to al-Assad supporters and she only covered the expenses herself after the news media reported who paid for her trip.
Then, after al-Assad bombed his people again, Gabbard continued to refuse to admit the attack had occurred. At the same time, she voted to practically ban Syrian refugees from coming into the United States after the Paris terrorist attacks, even though Syrian refugees were not involved in the attacks.
That's not how we do things.. especially in Hawaii.
When we were discussing this on DU we had people defending her.. all kinds of pretzel logic going on.
But, Thank Goodness the Hawaii Teachers Union is NOT impressed.
Sherry Campagna appears with HSTA members at a May 22 press conference announcing the unions endorsement of her challenge to U.S. Rep. Tulsi Gabbard in Hawaiis 2nd District Congressional race.
Mahalo, RSF!
oasis
(49,390 posts)Thanks Cha
Loyal Democrats unite
Cha
(297,323 posts)Word did get out about Gabbard supporting Assad!
The Hawaii Teacher's Union ain't buying it! They want a real Dem, too.
Best of Luck to Sherry Campagna
Cha
(297,323 posts)brer cat
(24,578 posts)Cha
(297,323 posts)Liking what I see with Campagna.
I wish her a win!
Cha
(297,323 posts)Thanks, Cha.
MarianJack
(10,237 posts)...is our Michelle Bachmann. Hell NO thank you.
PEACE!
Cha
(297,323 posts)representing me.
Mahalo, MarianJack!
MarianJack
(10,237 posts)PEACE!
Jim Lane
(11,175 posts)There's a huge contingent of DUers who believe passionately that any primary challenge to an incumbent Democrat is absolutely horrible. We're in a CRISIS, doncha know? We have to devote all our energy to defeating Trump and the Republicans. Anything else is practically treason.
Of course, in this thread you've informed us about a primary challenge to one of the handful of incumbent Democrats who backed Bernie Sanders in 2016. Maybe, just maybe, some of the usual denouncers of primaries will give you a pass on this one.
For my part, I support Tulsi Gabbard but I've never been one of those who try to falsely Trump-shame Democrats who disagree with an incumbent. I hope this ill-advised challenger is treated with perfect fairness, that the DCCC doesn't put a fat thumb on the scale the way it has in other races, and that Tulsi then romps to victory (just as she did two years ago against a primary challenger who had a lot of vociferous support on DU).
SidDithers
(44,228 posts)Sid
grantcart
(53,061 posts)RandySF
(58,935 posts)The primary is essentially the election and Gabvard is known lover of dictators, considered a job in the Trump Administration and frequently went on Fox News to bash Obama. Also, FYI, I am considering voting for Kevin de Leon over Dianne Feinstein.
There was her already noted visit to Assad and....
Russia has lots of experience in media censorship. So perhaps it is logical that Rep Tulsi Gabbard (D-HI-2) hires an agent of the Russian government as a consultant to keep Hawaii media under control.
But Gabbards consultant, Chris Cooper of the Potomac Square Group, is no ordinary Russian agent. Cooper is allegedly one of seven identified as being at the center of illegal Russian lobbying efforts reaching into the Trump campaign and Congress
http://www.hawaiifreepress.com/ArticlesMain/tabid/56/ID/20879/Tulsi-Gabbard-Hires-Russian-Agent-to-Keep-Hawaii-Media-in-Check.aspx
Tarheel_Dem
(31,235 posts)oasis
(49,390 posts)oasis
(49,390 posts)sheshe2
(83,793 posts)JPR will be voting for her in the primary. They love Russia there.
Hmmm
oasis
(49,390 posts)Good old JPRers are setting the stage for the next run.
Fugg em.
oasis
(49,390 posts)Cha
(297,323 posts)Wow.. Now I'm even more grateful Gabbard's supporting Assad got through to the Hawaii's Teacher's Union!
How in the world did you discover this news, Me?
Mahalo
Cha
(297,323 posts)and that poster supports her. Go figure.
still_one
(92,239 posts)Cha
(297,323 posts)Gabbard is my Rep and I don't want someone who supports Assad..
And, the Hawaii Teacher's Union agrees with me.. they supported her 2 years ago but no more.
Harsh Criticism For Gabbard
She was one of just three representatives, and the only Democrat who refused to condemn Syrian dictator Bashar al-Assads genocidal chemical attack on his own people. After the attack, Gabbard traveled to Syria to meet with the genocidal dictator al-Assad without permission from the White House or Congress. Her trip was funded by a group with ties to al-Assad supporters and she only covered the expenses herself after the news media reported who paid for her trip.
Then, after al-Assad bombed his people again, Gabbard continued to refuse to admit the attack had occurred. At the same time, she voted to practically ban Syrian refugees from coming into the United States after the Paris terrorist attacks, even though Syrian refugees were not involved in the attacks.
That's not how we do things.. especially in Hawaii
Jim Lane
(11,175 posts)Cha
(297,323 posts)to tulsi gabbard.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)A lot of people here contributed to the progressive Dem that challenged the rightwing Illinois Dem. Sherry seems to be a longtime, solid progressive Dem. Sherry simply looks like a better choice than Tulsi. What people don't support are Our Revolution bullshitters that only want to tear the Democratic Party down.
sheshe2
(83,793 posts)Or are you just misinformed to where she stands?
But the HSTA email also levied harsh criticism at Gabbard for her trip to Syria to meet with its al-Assad, and her failure to condemn Al-Assad for his genocidal chemical attack on his own people. The union cited her stance on Syria as an example of how Gabbard has has not defended human and civil rights during her time in Congress.
According to the email:
She was one of just three representatives, and the only Democrat who refused to condemn Syrian dictator Bashar al-Assads genocidal chemical attack on his own people. After the attack, Gabbard traveled to Syria to meet with the genocidal dictator al-Assad without permission from the White House or Congress. Her trip was funded by a group with ties to al-Assad supporters and she only covered the expenses herself after the news media reported who paid for her trip.
Then, after al-Assad bombed his people again, Gabbard continued to refuse to admit the attack had occurred. At the same time, she voted to practically ban Syrian refugees from coming into the United States after the Paris terrorist attacks, even though Syrian refugees were not involved in the attacks.
http://www.civilbeat.org/2018/05/hawaii-teachers-union-backs-gabbard-opponent-for-congress/
Are you unaware of all this?
Jim Lane
(11,175 posts)I don't agree with any politician 100%.
If I cumulated all the things I've written over the years, I wouldn't even agree with myself 100%.
The issue here is: With Trump destroying our democracy, and the Republicans controlling both houses of Congress, but with the Democrats having a fighting chance to flip one chamber or the other or maybe even both, not to mention all the state legislative seats and governorships that will have an influence on the crucial post-2020 redistricting, should we spend time and money on a primary against an incumbent Democrat just on the basis that the incumbent Democrat isn't perfect and a challenger might be better?
Most of the time, when that issue is addressed on DU, the horrors of Trump are adduced by many posters as a reason that primarying incumbent Democrats should be deferred until the crisis is past. Strangely, however, the people who have repeatedly posted such views appear not to be applying the same principle here. A Democratic incumbent who is one more vote for the Democrats to retake the majority, and who votes with the party almost all the time, and who even has that oh-so-important D after her name, is nevertheless found to be not perfect, and the primary against her is loudly cheered.
I have my own theory as to the origin of this double standard.
NY_20th
(1,028 posts)Cuomo, Nixon race.
You are showing a double standard here.
Jim Lane
(11,175 posts)Read what I wrote in #23. (If you can't bear to read the whole thing, here's a tip: third paragraph.)
I am expressly not joining the horrified shrieking about any primary of an incumbent. I'm merely pointing out the hypocrisy of those who have shrieked about it in the past, on the basis that we're in a crisis and unity is paramount and no one should challenge any incumbent Democrat, but who then make an exception when the incumbent Democrat is one they don't like.
For my part, when I look at primary races, I support some incumbents and some challengers, depending on the merits of the race as I see them. The difference is that I don't try to cloak my personal preferences as being based on some general pro-incumbent principle, only to abandon that supposed general principle when it's expedient to do so.
To elaborate further, here are some examples of the point of view to which I refer. These are quotations from a thread right here on DU about progressives challenging incumbents in Democratic primaries:
questioning the [strategy] of people to challenge incumbents in a primary.
in a year when we have nothing these folks waste money and time going after sitting Democrats instead of trying to unseat Republicans. And Democrats have no power in Washington...timing is everything. We need to spend our resources fighting Trump by flipping Republicans seats...not challenging Democratic incumbents.
why aren't they going after red seats instead? Why do these new progressives insist on building their
skyscraper from the penthouse downward?
I'm suspect of the motives of anyone that appears to be undermining good solid Dems.
Shouldn't the emphasis be on running against republican incumbents first? Remember, Democrats in office won their elections, and where republicans are in office the Democrat lost. THOSE are the seats we should be targetting.
Bad strategy We've already got the NYT flogging the 'Dems in disarray!!11' meme on the front page today. Why don't these progressives run against Republicans. They are the enemy.
this kind of internal squabbling needs to be saved for going against the GOP. We need unity here.
I'm not going to give links or name names. I'm simply pointing out that this consideration, which is superficially neutral among all incumbents, gets dropped in the specific case of Tulsi Gabbard.
And, just in case I haven't made it clear yet, I disagree with the philosophy exemplified by the quotations in that excerpt box.
sheshe2
(83,793 posts)58. "I support her" doesn't equal "I agree with her 100%."
I don't agree with any politician 100%.
snip
but with the Democrats having a fighting chance to flip one chamber or the other or maybe even both, not to mention all the state legislative seats and governorships that will have an influence on the crucial post-2020 redistricting, should we spend time and money on a primary against an incumbent Democrat just on the basis that the incumbent Democrat isn't perfect and a challenger might be better?
Jim, woah. A Democrat that is not perfect. "should we spend time and money on a primary against an incumbent Democrat just on the basis that the incumbent Democrat isn't perfect and a challenger might be better?"
Jim, Gabbard is not a Manchin from a red state voting mostly for dems. She in fact from a very blue district standing against all Democrats believe in. :
The union cited her stance on Syria as an example of how Gabbard has has not defended human and civil rights during her time in Congress.
According to the email:
She was one of just three representatives, and the only Democrat who refused to condemn Syrian dictator Bashar al-Assads genocidal chemical attack on his own people. After the attack, Gabbard traveled to Syria to meet with the genocidal dictator al-Assad without permission from the White House or Congress. Her trip was funded by a group with ties to al-Assad supporters and she only covered the expenses herself after the news media reported who paid for her trip.
Then, after al-Assad bombed his people again, Gabbard continued to refuse to admit the attack had occurred. At the same time, she voted to practically ban Syrian refugees from coming into the United States after the Paris terrorist attacks, even though Syrian refugees were not involved in the attacks.
http://www.civilbeat.org/2018/05/hawaii-teachers-union-backs-gabbard-opponent-for-congress/
Your choice, your vote as was Gabbards when she denied the genocide of Syrias people.
NY_20th
(1,028 posts)an ill-advised challenger, yet you praise Cynthia Nixon in New York, even though Cynthia may split the New York State Gubernatorial General Election ballot.
That doesn't seem very consistent.
Jim Lane
(11,175 posts)Consistency doesn't require that everyone pick an answer Yes or No and apply that same answer to ALL primary challenges. It's quite possible to support the incumbent in one race and the challenger in another.
If I still lived in New York, I would vote for Cynthia Nixon in the Democratic primary.
NY_20th
(1,028 posts)You can't have your cake and eat it too.
Gothmog
(145,335 posts)George II
(67,782 posts)....doesn't put a fat thumb on the scale the way it has in other races..."
disillusioned73
(2,872 posts)... enlightening, to say the least
Tulsi is great.. her original "sin" was having principles and resigning to endorse the candidate that she supported insteading of acting as if she was neutral from within the DNC..
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)I'm all in for Ms. Campagna.
oasis
(49,390 posts)Blue_true
(31,261 posts)Sherry looks like a very solid progressive that people in her district and democrats across the country can count on.
Cha
(297,323 posts)she started bad mouthing President Obama on foxsux all the time.
I contacted her campaign and told them to stop sending me emails.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)Take care Cha.
Cha
(297,323 posts)about the People of Hawaii.. not trying to further her political ambitions at our expense.
You take care, too, Blue_true
Gothmog
(145,335 posts)Keep up informed on this race
Cha
(297,323 posts)this thread.. Thanking everybody!
Mahalo, Goth
Gothmog
(145,335 posts)Cha
(297,323 posts)lunamagica
(9,967 posts)Response to RandySF (Original post)
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