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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Sat Jun 16, 2018, 08:50 PM Jun 2018

Trump Is Making Us Live in His Delusional Reality Show

June 16, 2018 at 9:10 am EDT By Taegan Goddard

Andrew Sullivan: “It seems so long ago now. Almost immediately after Trump took office, the denial of reality began. The president’s and his spokesperson’s insistence that his inauguration crowd was the biggest in history — and certainly bigger than Obama’s — belied what everyone could see with their bare, lyin’ eyes. At the time, I wondered whether the president was psychologically unwell. Three thousand lies later, we have a fuller picture.”

“The president believes what he wants to believe, creates a reality that fits his delusions, and then insists, with extraordinary energy and stamina, that his delusions are the truth. His psychological illness, moreover, is capable of outlasting anyone else’s mental health. Objective reality that contradicts his delusions is discounted as “fake news” propagated by “our country’s greatest enemy,” i.e., reporters. If someone behaved like this in my actual life, if someone kept insisting that the sea was red and the sky green, I’d assume they were a few sandwiches short of a picnic. It’s vital for us to remember this every day: Almost no one else in public life is so openly living in his own disturbed world.”

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https://politicalwire.com/2018/06/16/trump-is-making-us-live-in-his-delusional-reality-show/

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Trump Is Making Us Live in His Delusional Reality Show (Original Post) DonViejo Jun 2018 OP
You mean putin's MAKING tRump ... LenaBaby61 Jun 2018 #1
Only those lsewpershad Jun 2018 #2
So close to reality... kentuck Jun 2018 #3
It definitely feels that way kimbutgar Jun 2018 #4
It's definitely delusional FakeNoose Jun 2018 #5
" His psychological illness, moreover, is capable of outlasting anyone else's mental health" kentuck Jun 2018 #6
It's maddening. smirkymonkey Jun 2018 #7
He's a lunatic. Lugnut Jun 2018 #8
Was mentioned by Chuck Todd this morning, talking abut Trump's lies question everything Jun 2018 #9

LenaBaby61

(6,974 posts)
1. You mean putin's MAKING tRump ...
Sat Jun 16, 2018, 08:59 PM
Jun 2018

Live putin's dream of destabilizing, and trying to destroy and make America what he (putin) wants it to be, and that's as hideous, UNSTABLE and POOR as ruSSia is outside of St. Petersburg and Moscow.

kentuck

(111,098 posts)
3. So close to reality...
Sat Jun 16, 2018, 09:35 PM
Jun 2018

"..with extraordinary energy and stamina, that his delusions are the truth. His psychological illness, moreover, is capable of outlasting anyone else’s mental health."

It seems to be the case, as people are becoming exhausted.

FakeNoose

(32,639 posts)
5. It's definitely delusional
Sat Jun 16, 2018, 10:25 PM
Jun 2018

... but it's more crazy nightmare than a reality show.

I think Trump knows he's in way over his head and he can barely tread water at this point. He has to know he's going down because nobody can keep this dishonest bullshit up. That's why his story keeps changing, because he can't keep track of all the lies, and what he's told to different people. It's all coming crashing down.



kentuck

(111,098 posts)
6. " His psychological illness, moreover, is capable of outlasting anyone else's mental health"
Sat Jun 16, 2018, 10:35 PM
Jun 2018

It feels that way sometimes. I'm hoping we have enough stamina to win this battle.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
7. It's maddening.
Sat Jun 16, 2018, 10:36 PM
Jun 2018

To see him lie so blatantly and have nobody publicly call him out on it. When we let his lies stand it is like we are underwriting them and marking them as the truth. The Emperor has no clothes, yet nobody will shout it out to the crowd.

question everything

(47,485 posts)
9. Was mentioned by Chuck Todd this morning, talking abut Trump's lies
Sun Jun 17, 2018, 02:28 PM
Jun 2018

HELENE COOPER:

What do you want me to do? It's something that at the Times we've been wrestling with on the news side because we get a lot of letters from readers saying, "Why do you guys say the president made misstatements? Why do you say--"

Yeah, "Why don't you just call a lie a lie?" And we've said lied in the past. But what Dean Baquet, who's the executive editor of the Times has said is that he thinks that we shouldn't use it all the time because if we use it all the time it loses its meaning.

But this is something that I can't remember as a reporter wrestling with how do you call-- and he's right to a certain extent. If you keep saying lie, lie, lie it does lose its impact when there's a real whopper. But it's something I'm not used to having to deal with as a reporter when you're talking about the president.

CAROL LEE:

This is different. This is a different level. And I think what we struggle with as reporters is what do you label a lie? Because a lie has to be deliberate. And so with President Trump in order to call it a lie you have to be able to show that he is deliberately, intentionally doing that.

And there's a lot of times when he's ill-informed, he's misinformed. And you don't exactly know what his intent is. And so that adds a whole other dimension that we're not used to. But his false statements, there's nothing to compare it with the number of times that he--

AL CARDENAS:

And here's a point. The point politically is that it's less damaging for him to lie 18 times in one morning than once because the feature that helps him the most is the numbness because of the frequency and volume of these things. The numbness with the electorate. They have so much to absorb and so little time to do it that they go home half of the time confused rather than convinced that something is amiss here.

BRET STEPHENS:

Right. It's important for us in the media I think to pick our spots. I remember Senator McCain at one point said, "I can't be the car alarm that's always going off." And I think we also have to be careful about, for our own credibility, about being very scrupulous of separating what are clear lies or seem to be clear lies from misstatements, falsehoods. Otherwise it gets him an opening to call us the fake news media which is what he wants.

https://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/meet-press-june-17-2018-n884041

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